The Official Sony E3 2013 thread

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blastingcap

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I don't care for consoles but if I did, I would never, ever, ever, ever get a Microsoft product. Pay more per year for XBL? Pay more upfront for worse hardware? Worse DRM policies? I mean, I hate Sony and all, but this isn't even a close call.
 

exdeath

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Hehe when Square was up and said "heres another trailer" and the Disney logo came up... ah yeah... crowd knew it too haha.
 

tential

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In theory, if Microsoft is so pigheaded as to stand their ground and not back pedal.

The only way Sony can win any more than they did tonight is if MS backs down then we all win.

That would be the best possible outcome.

I don't think MS will backpedal anytime soon. Not saying they won't though. Just saying we can't expect to hear anything for awhile. A decision like that takes time. They have to talk to a lot of different departments. Then of course also backpedalling now sounds like they are doing it because of sony.

For MS, it's better they wait let the gamers vent then backpedal saying "We're doing it for the gamers and what they've expressed to us."

Finally, there are other ways MS can "backpedal" without saying htey did anything wrong.

Heavy bundling would help a lot. 2 free games? Or a year free of Xbox Live?

If I was MS, I'd backpedal on the DRM in 2-3 months, and bundle 2-3 free games or Xbox Live. As it currently is, the only thing MS has is Exclusives, but because most of them are ones we've only seen lame trailers for, vs SONY's actual game play, I don't think you can sell a console for 100 dollars more with this many unanswered questions as of now.

There is a lot of time of course but they do have to convince consumers to pay more which is ALWAYS hard. Right now though, Sony has a couple months head start of good PR. Don't doubt for a second that sony fans, and newly converted sony fans, won't spread "the good word"
 

KaOTiK

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Just read through this thread and you'd think this was the NBA Finals thread. Can't we discuss this like grown-ups?
 

Zeze

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I haven't been following the news closely.

Do we have new additional info on PS4 hardware specs? How does it compare to XBOne?


PS3 was considerably more beastly than Xbox 360. And it was more expensive too. But now PS4 is cheaper, is it still stronger than Xbox 360 hardware-wise?

If so that's a double-insult and a HUGE loss leader pricing.
 

KaOTiK

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I haven't been following the news closely.

Do we have new additional info on PS4 hardware specs? How does it compare to XBOne?


PS3 was considerably more beastly than Xbox 360. And it was more expensive too. But now PS4 is cheaper, is it still stronger than Xbox 360 hardware-wise?

If so that's a double-insult and a HUGE loss leader pricing.

Yes, the PS4 is more powerful. It has better RAM and a better GPU.

To add to it, the amount of resources each system holds for its own use will be different as well. I think that MS said the X1 will hold 3GB of RAM and 2 cores of the cpu, and around 10% of the GPU for OS/other functions. Sony, I don't think has given any firm numbers, but was rumored to be hold around 1/1.6GB, 2 cores, and 10% of the gpu for theirs.

So if that is true the gap will widen more. Note the above numbers may be totally off as I can not remember if where they came from or if they were/are accurate. But it is safe to say that the X1 will probably need more resources since it is running 3 OS's.
 

badb0y

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I haven't been following the news closely.

Do we have new additional info on PS4 hardware specs? How does it compare to XBOne?


PS3 was considerably more beastly than Xbox 360. And it was more expensive too. But now PS4 is cheaper, is it still stronger than Xbox 360 hardware-wise?

If so that's a double-insult and a HUGE loss leader pricing.

PS4 has 50% more raw GPU power or MS has 33% less GPU power depending how you want to look at it.

PS4 has 8 GB GDDR5 memory while Xbone has 8 GB DDR3 memory with 32 MB ESRAM.
 

exdeath

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I hope everyone in the audience was 18+ because Sony straight up got pornographic with MS.
 

gorcorps

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Are there ever deals on the PS+ membership cards? I rarely pay more than 35 for a year of XBL and now that I'm switching I'm curious.

Yes, and Sony has put it on sale themselves too. Right now you can get a year for $40 from bestbuy.com if you're a rewards member. I got mine when Sony was offering a free 3 months for every year you purchased, and that included cards activated. So if you found a card for a good deal you really got your money's worth at the time.
 

gorcorps

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It's also funny how much Sony has bounced back from their PSN hack debacle. Tons of accounts with personal info were stolen and PSN was down for a month, but nobody seems to care anymore.
 

exdeath

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Damn Sony is dirty as hell. Didn't even use a rubber!

6/11/13

Sony arrested in CA charged with rape, extortion, indecent exposure, and engaging in pornography without a condom .
 
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gorcorps

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Damn Sony is dirty as hell. Didn't even use a rubber!

6/11/14

Sony arrested in CA charged with rape, extortion, indecent exposure, and engaging in pornography without a condom .

You can see into the future? ;)
 

JackBurton

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It's also funny how much Sony has bounced back from their PSN hack debacle. Tons of accounts with personal info were stolen and PSN was down for a month, but nobody seems to care anymore.

Oh I care. I'm not linking a cc to my PSN account anymore. I just use PSN pre paid cards.