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American Gunner

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And what if those friends purchased 5 years of Xbox Live? Even at $30 a year, that is quite a bit of money to just throw away to not be married to a generation. Especially, considering the "outrage" people are complaining about mostly is related to being online. That wouldn't effect someone using Xbox Live subscription, because they would be online anyway.
I've had Xbox live for 7 years, but if the PS4 was the better option for me, I wouldn't have any problem jumping over there. I don't do brand loyalty, as that will only hurt the person unwilling to look at the big picture rather than sticking with the only thing they know.
 

American Gunner

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I'd bite the bullet and lose a few years of live already paid for to never have to pay for online gaming/features on a competitors console. Why would I want to dig a deeper hole. Besides I seriously doubt anyone would purchase more than 1-2 extra years of live at that.

They could also keep their 360 and continue to use live on that if they truly wanted too because it will still be needed there as well.
This. But if someone was really dumb enough to go and buy 5 years of Xbox live for the future when they had no idea what next generation was going to be like, then I highly doubt that they would care about what is the better system. I still have live until next March I think, and if MS doesn't give me enough reasons to get a One, then I will just continue to use my 360 until my live runs up when I want to play something on the xbox.
 

smackababy

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I am going in with the mentality that I am buying both and will most likely only play the exclusives on the PS4 (and possibly fighting games, if tournys end up using them). Xbox Live this gen was such a better service than PSN and most of my friends will probably stick with it. That just means the multiplatform games I grab will be for Xbox.

Unless one of them pulls a Nintendo and has 2 launch titles and no games incoming for 6+ months after, I don't see me not buying them both.
 

smackababy

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This. But if someone was really dumb enough to go and buy 5 years of Xbox live for the future when they had no idea what next generation was going to be like, then I highly doubt that they would care about what is the better system. I still have live until next March I think, and if MS doesn't give me enough reasons to get a One, then I will just continue to use my 360 until my live runs up when I want to play something on the xbox.

I bought 8 years of Xbox Live at once. Well, technically, the BX on the base I was stationed had a bunch of the original Xbox starter kits (came with 12 months and a mic) for around $7 each, so I bought quite a few. Sold some codes on Ebay and stocked up on my account.

I guess I am not as invested in it as some could be, but even then, if I never used Xbox Live again, it would be throwing away that money spent.
 

American Gunner

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I am going in with the mentality that I am buying both and will most likely only play the exclusives on the PS4 (and possibly fighting games, if tournys end up using them). Xbox Live this gen was such a better service than PSN and most of my friends will probably stick with it. That just means the multiplatform games I grab will be for Xbox.

Unless one of them pulls a Nintendo and has 2 launch titles and no games incoming for 6+ months after, I don't see me not buying them both.
I would love to get both consoles out the gate, but with finally starting college in the fall, I know my time will be limited. There is no reason in spending $1,000 when launch titles will most likely be limited. Hell, I may wait so I can see if Sony makes good on their promises about their network and so I can try the new controller out and that way I can wait and make sure the launch consoles on the MS side aren't a total mess again. Especially after the reports of the issues they are having right now.
 

smackababy

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I can't recall any big leaks for prior E3s either. I think they are kept fairly well under wraps.
 

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badb0y

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A couple of rumors from a user named "crazy buttocks on a train":
confiemed micresft actively attemptbuyinr PS44FOUR nonmetnions. IF y dont explifitly here 3rdparty say “OUR GAME IS EXCLUSIVE FOR XBONE’ confdinetly assuem Ps4 version is avabilelbe behind scenes. #truthfact

stag2 indethpth drm mesaging a@t gamescom. rental stretegy is no stratgy, nolpan for support, just watnt o keep quiet. nontalk execs! beacuse mesaging isnt done. stagae1 waslast Tursyfday...clusterfuktotal

cloudpower=praroleofficer. desined from day1@s DRM. peirod. uknoo this alreyad thogh.,, MS idaea. aproached third parties wplan not otherway around. EA/Ubi bigest boostrs but lesa Activbliz whcih makes mye haed fulll of weird#!

^_^ ONE drm tos plans iws worse than you know. asmnow btw but I can;t get cororobating proof frrorm my fpeoples. theyr sadcared for jobs. it s com*ing tho IT IS COMING ):

^_^ MEedge2 at MS conf. langlewdell not mkaign an appearnce.

^_^ princeofpersian retgurgiate. for msfconf

^_^ sspecial sekrit Philupspensergame/? - world of banks frmo warmggamin.et

^_^ LIVEpaywallfirm like myb utocks in place for ONEE!1 f2p? sorury.

^_^ deadreising3 and exclcusive DLC for other capcpom game

^_^ onlingamingpayo.w.-allklk for Sony? ahha nope.noconfirm

^_^ sonty rapped up tighterrea than Virgin mosquito when on drm istuf. Frustartin!g myinfogloves!

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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=581089
Translation:
1. Confirmed Microsoft is actively attempting to get developers to not mention PS4 versions. If they don't say "OUR GAME IS EXCLUSIVE FOR XBONE" expect a PS4 version. #truthfact

2. More DRM messaging at Gamescom. There is no rental strategy. Try to sweep it under the rug and hope people don't remember.

3. Cloud power was designed as DRM. Period. DRM was Microsoft's idea. EA and Ubisoft are supporters, Activision slightly less so.

4. DRM plans are actually worse than what they've stated.

5. Mirror's Edge 2 at MS conference.

6. Prince of Persia (reboot?) at MS conference.

7. Secret Phil Spencer game = World of Tanks

8. Live paywall still there.

9. Dead Rising 3, and exclusive DLC for another Capcom game at MS conference.

10. No online paywall for PS4. Unconfirmed.

11. No DRM info for PS4.
People on GAF believe him and apparently he has been right before. As always take with a bucket of salt.

Note: According to the other GAFfers he talks like a retard to protect himself.
 

American Gunner

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No pay wall on psn would be big. Add in less restrictions, and I would have absolutely no problem being a Sony guy next generation.
 

KaOTiK

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A couple of rumors from a user named "crazy buttocks on a train":

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=581089
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People on GAF believe him and apparently he has been right before. As always take with a bucket of salt.

Note: According to the other GAFfers he talks like a retard to protect himself.

CBOAT is really reputable. He brings A LOT of info in way ahead of time and he is right about just about everything he reports.

He types the way he does so that it doesn't come up in searches and to protect himself.

From what I've seen, if he says it is true, then there is a 99% chance it is.
 

zerocool84

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Looks like SpikeTV is airing E3 from 9am-2:30pm PST tomorrow so set your DVR's.

Sucks no Sony airing on Spike as I'm more interested in them right now. They seem to be doing more right than Microsoft but we will definitely find out tomorrow if that's true.
 
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ImpulsE69

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I probably have no interest in the next gen (had no interest in this gen because well...it really WAS meh compared to other gens) and still...the things MS is doing pisses me off to no end. Mostly because (looks at smackababy) people will buy into it anyway.
 

Aikouka

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Looks like SpikeTV is airing E3 from 9am-2:30pm PST tomorrow so set your DVR's.

Sucks no Sony airing on Spike as I'm more interested in them right now. They seem to be doing more right than Microsoft but we will definitely find out tomorrow if that's true.

Sounds like they're just airing the Microsoft and EA panels then. That probably isn't surprising given EA's presence at the X1 launch event.
 

Subyman

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I got tired of being nickeled and dimed for standard features on Xbox. Netflix behind a pay wall ended my Xbox play. I've only played the forza games on it over the last 3 years. PS4 is probably going to be in my media center this gen. Too bad gran turismo 6 is PS3. I hope rock star announces gta5 for next gen.
 

KaOTiK

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LOL

http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=686511

An Xbox fansite. Poll asks "do you want Xbone?" Answer : "not really".

Really makes me weep inside reading some of those comments. People can not think ahead of the now to see how something will affect them in the long run. I will never understand fanboys. They try to hide behind the comment, I'm a gamer so yes I'll be buying it, but there comes a time when you need to stand up for things.
 

smackababy

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Really makes me weep inside reading some of those comments. People can not think ahead of the now to see how something will affect them in the long run. I will never understand fanboys. They try to hide behind the comment, I'm a gamer so yes I'll be buying it, but there comes a time when you need to stand up for things.

Why is it sad if none of that stuff actually effects them? The last time I was without internet was years ago. I can't remember the last used game I bought, because it was probably for SNES. Really, the major "issues" with the Xbox One don't effect me. I already am okay with paying for Live. I hardly think MS is going to spy on me, at least not as much as the NSA already does. The only thing that effects whether I buy an Xbox One or not is the games and what my friends buy, because I will be playing with them.
 

purbeast0

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Why is it sad if none of that stuff actually effects them? The last time I was without internet was years ago. I can't remember the last used game I bought, because it was probably for SNES. Really, the major "issues" with the Xbox One don't effect me. I already am okay with paying for Live. I hardly think MS is going to spy on me, at least not as much as the NSA already does. The only thing that effects whether I buy an Xbox One or not is the games and what my friends buy, because I will be playing with them.

yeah that is true. if you NEVER buy used games, never sell them, don't ever rent them, don't ever borrow or lend out games, don't ever take your console somewhere that you don't have internet but want to play it, and have reliable internet at home, then nothing will really be changing at all from the 360 to the x1.

that is probably a small portion of all gamers but there are definitely a lot that i'm sure fall into that category.
 

American Gunner

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Forgetting all the doom and gloom that people are preaching about our hobby, I am just excited about today. I hope we have some awesome suprises announced. I just want someone to give me a reason to buy one of these systems day one.