The Official Microsoft E3 2013 thread

[American Gunner]

Allowing MS to bend you over with their online/DRM/used games policy. You are just helping pave the road for a much worse future.

This is a stepping stone. If it doesn't hurt them then the next gen will be more intrusive and will be the same on all the platforms.

Just because it doesn't effect you doesn't mean it is ok to accept it because it will have repercussions down the road that will most likely effect you.

Some people look at this as anti-consumer, and some people see it as a step towards a digital future. I for one could care less what any random person on the internet thinks about my decision when I actually decide which console I want to go with.

 

[KaOTiK]

oh you are one of those people who gets butthurt when other people don't agree with you?

i'm not going to boycott a console just because everyone on the internet wants to. i buy consoles for 1 reason and that is to play games. if a console has games i want to play on it, i will buy it.

but to be 100% honest i'm not 100% buying it yet, but the ki has REALLY changed my mind to the positive direction.

No, I am not one of those people that get butthurt when people don't agree with me.

I am a person who gets rather butthurt when people can not look past their own wants and can't see what their actions will do for everyone.

It is people that satisfy their needs and wants with no thought of what will come of it that is one of the biggest problem in our society nowadays.

We have people throwing away our freedom and liberties for the most meaningless shit now.

Things are going to get a hell of a lot worse if you allow MS to bend you over, it wont be just them doing it soon if it is shown people will just take it.

You are practically sold on the system after knocking it for such bad anti consumer practices the past week like many others (myself) have just because of a game. A game that first off we have seen almost nothing about and two is being developed by a studio with a mediocre history.

X1 would have sequels to all my fav IP's and I still wouldn't purchase it on principle alone. Something it seems you don't quite understand.

 

[KaOTiK]

Some people look at this as anti-consumer, and some people see it as a step towards a digital future. I for one could care less what any random person on the internet thinks about my decision when I actually decide which console I want to go with.

Sure it is a step towards a digital future, but it is a very bad path that step is being taken down. Especially when they are consumer friendly paths out there that are already established and proven.

 

[mizzou]

why do you care what the box looks like?

as long as its not shaped like a penis I don't care myself

 

[American Gunner]

No, I am not one of those people that get butthurt when people don't agree with me.

I am a person who gets rather butthurt when people can not look past their own wants and can't see what their actions will do for everyone.

It is people that satisfy their needs and wants with no thought of what will come of it that is one of the biggest problem in our society nowadays.

We have people throwing away our freedom and liberties for the most meaningless shit now.

Things are going to get a hell of a lot worse if you allow MS to bend you over, it wont be just them doing it soon if it is shown people will just take it.

You are practically sold on the system after knocking it for such bad anti consumer practices the past week like many others (myself) have just because of a game. A game that first off we have seen almost nothing about and two is being developed by a studio with a mediocre history.

X1 would have sequels to all my fav IP's and I still wouldn't purchase it on principle alone. Something it seems you don't quite understand.

Holy shit, you take your gaming very seriously.

 

[smackababy]

No, I am not one of those people that get butthurt when people don't agree with me.

I am a person who gets rather butthurt when people can not look past their own wants and can't see what their actions will do for everyone.

It is people that satisfy their needs and wants with no thought of what will come of it that is one of the biggest problem in our society nowadays.

We have people throwing away our freedom and liberties for the most meaningless shit now.

Things are going to get a hell of a lot worse if you allow MS to bend you over, it wont be just them doing it soon if it is shown people will just take it.

You are practically sold on the system after knocking it for such bad anti consumer practices the past week like many others (myself) have just because of a game. A game that first off we have seen almost nothing about and two is being developed by a studio with a mediocre history.

X1 would have sequels to all my fav IP's and I still wouldn't purchase it on principle alone. Something it seems you don't quite understand.

I am sure your principles are so strong! I bet you boycott all sorts of freedom eroding companies right? Like every ISP, and every phone company, and the US government! They are farming your data, but you boycott an Xbox because of principle. Yeah, real nice.

 

[KaOTiK]

Holy shit, you take your gaming very seriously.

If you honestly think this is going to stop at gaming you are sorely mistaken.

But yes, I've been a gamer for the past 29 years and care a lot how it continues. I can easily see myself just being purely PC or quitting entirely if things continue down the road that the X1 is pushing.

The only time you can stop bullshit like this from happening is to stop it when it is starting.

 

[purbeast0]

No, I am not one of those people that get butthurt when people don't agree with me.

I am a person who gets rather butthurt when people can not look past their own wants and can't see what their actions will do for everyone.

It is people that satisfy their needs and wants with no thought of what will come of it that is one of the biggest problem in our society nowadays.

We have people throwing away our freedom and liberties for the most meaningless shit now.

Things are going to get a hell of a lot worse if you allow MS to bend you over, it wont be just them doing it soon if it is shown people will just take it.

You are practically sold on the system after knocking it for such bad anti consumer practices the past week like many others (myself) have just because of a game. A game that first off we have seen almost nothing about and two is being developed by a studio with a mediocre history.

X1 would have sequels to all my fav IP's and I still wouldn't purchase it on principle alone. Something it seems you don't quite understand.

then be thankful we have competition and many other people won't buy it. just because i think they are making stupid decisions that will effect the console in the long run doesn't mean i won't play games on it. and yeah, call me selfish or whatever, but what you all think about my purchases doesn't matter a bit lol.

 

[smackababy]

If you honestly think this is going to stop at gaming you are sorely mistaken.

But yes, I've been a gamer for the past 29 years and care a lot how it continues. I can easily see myself just being purely PC or quitting entirely if things continue down the road that the X1 is pushing.

The only time you can stop bullshit like this from happening is to stop it when it is starting.

You mean the road toward where PC is at? Seriously? Go get on a soap box and preach about the sky falling in P&N. But, I'm sure big, bad evil Microsoft is the reason publishers will have the exact same DRM on Sony's "console gaming savior" right? Boycotting that as well? You should be boycotting Steam, Origin, and every other software company that sells non transferable licenses (ie every single one). But of course, you are upset about MS.

 

[KaOTiK]

I am sure your principles are so strong! I bet you boycott all sorts of freedom eroding companies right? Like every ISP, and every phone company, and the US government! They are farming your data, but you boycott an Xbox because of principle. Yeah, real nice.

Funny, some of those things are practically essential nowadays, like net/phone and we have no or little choice. I try my best to avoid contributing to problems and being informed when most do not.

A game console isn't a necessity and is purely a want and not a need in any form.

At the end of the day, at least I know I tried and can have a right to bitch about it when others don't give a shit till something comes along that directly effects them.

 

[Arkaign]

then be thankful we have competition and many other people won't buy it. just because i think they are making stupid decisions that will effect the console in the long run doesn't mean i won't play games on it. and yeah, call me selfish or whatever, but what you all think about my purchases doesn't matter a bit lol.

True, buy what you want, it's your money, you earned it.

I am personally boycotting Xbone (will do the same for PS4 if they pull enough of the same crap, but that looks doubtful).

I do hope enough people are educated on it to the point where it flops, nothing would be better for the gaming industry than Microsoft leaving it. The IP would be sold off to more reputable groups. Well, I take that back, probably #1 best thing for gaming would be EA being split up and exclusive licensing ending for sports. Lack of competition for NFL, NBA, etc is stifling sports gaming, not to mention the rest of the bullcrap that EA pulls.

A combo of Microsoft and EA being split apart and splintered into independent studios would be a godsend to gamers everywhere.

 

[purbeast0]

True, buy what you want, it's your money, you earned it.

I am personally boycotting Xbone (will do the same for PS4 if they pull enough of the same crap, but that looks doubtful).

I do hope enough people are educated on it to the point where it flops, nothing would be better for the gaming industry than Microsoft leaving it. The IP would be sold off to more reputable groups. Well, I take that back, probably #1 best thing for gaming would be EA being split up and exclusive licensing ending for sports. Lack of competition for NFL, NBA, etc is stifling sports gaming, not to mention the rest of the bullcrap that EA pulls.

A combo of Microsoft and EA being split apart and splintered into independent studios would be a godsend to gamers everywhere.

yes, sony having 0 competition would be just what the console industry needs.

just like what happened with football games and the ea/nfl thing.

 

[KaOTiK]

You mean the road toward where PC is at? Seriously? Go get on a soap box and preach about the sky falling in P&N. But, I'm sure big, bad evil Microsoft is the reason publishers will have the exact same DRM on Sony's "console gaming savior" right? Boycotting that as well? You should be boycotting Steam, Origin, and every other software company that sells non transferable licenses (ie every single one). But of course, you are upset about MS.

[redacted]

People keep trying to compare it to Steam, know what? It has been stated how it isn't. Maybe when MS is selling month old games for 50% off we can start talking again. But when you want to go about business being same old and change the rules to greatly benefit you only, no. MS has no competition within their ecosystem that you will be apart of buying the X1.

I don't think Sony is any savior, they have fucked up in the past as well and we will find out in a few hours if they are going to fuck up again or not. Hell, if you want to know who is closes to a savior, it is ironically Nintendo. Who are just giving you games and treating gaming like it has been for the past 30+ years.

Personal attacks will NOT be tolerated
-ViRGE

 

[smackababy]

True, buy what you want, it's your money, you earned it.

I am personally boycotting Xbone (will do the same for PS4 if they pull enough of the same crap, but that looks doubtful).

I do hope enough people are educated on it to the point where it flops, nothing would be better for the gaming industry than Microsoft leaving it. The IP would be sold off to more reputable groups. Well, I take that back, probably #1 best thing for gaming would be EA being split up and exclusive licensing ending for sports. Lack of competition for NFL, NBA, etc is stifling sports gaming, not to mention the rest of the bullcrap that EA pulls.

A combo of Microsoft and EA being split apart and splintered into independent studios would be a godsend to gamers everywhere.

Oh you're right. That is exactly what we need. Nintendo making kiddie games and Sony being the only player in the console industry. Sony, the company that brought you the wonderful rootkit DVD, the "champion of used games" that will sue you if you try and modify hardware they sold you. What a wonderful company we need having a monopoly on console gaming.

 

[KeithTalent]

$499.99 up here in Canada too! Good deal. May need to do a Prime pre-order on this bad boy.

KT

Edit: pre-ordered.

 

[cmdrdredd]

yes, sony having 0 competition would be just what the console industry needs.

just like what happened with football games and the ea/nfl thing.

A little guy known as Miyamoto says hello from Kyoto and Nintendo's HQ to remind you that they are still making games. lol

Kiddie? No...Kiddies do not play Metroid and Zelda. Thay make like them but really play them? No...

 

[mizzou]

wtf half this thread is about SNES arcade ports lol

 

[Arkaign]

Oh you're right. That is exactly what we need. Nintendo making kiddie games and Sony being the only player in the console industry. Sony, the company that brought you the wonderful rootkit DVD, the "champion of used games" that will sue you if you try and modify hardware they sold you. What a wonderful company we need having a monopoly on console gaming.

Anything is better than what Microsoft is cooking up with Xbone. Markets abhor vacuums anyway, if Microsoft falls on their face, it's not like Sony will be the only game in town. After all, Xbox original was vibrant enough during PS2's heydey. N64 was a success even if PS1 was the overall winner. PC gaming has been GROWING over the past few years as well, as people are figuring out that it's not that expensive. One must also realize that the majority of gamers these days game on at least two platforms, there's plenty of room for players in the game.

Nobody in console history has EVER tried to do the extent of anti-consumerist BS that Microsoft is pulling with Xbone. Not once.

Paywalled F2P, locked used games, overpriced XBL, DRM disguised as 'cloud' power, 24hr online checks, etc, Xbone and Microsoft can go straight to hell.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Anything is better than what Microsoft is cooking up with Xbone. Markets abhor vacuums anyway, if Microsoft falls on their face, it's not like Sony will be the only game in town. After all, Xbox original was vibrant enough during PS2's heydey. N64 was a success even if PS1 was the overall winner. PC gaming has been GROWING over the past few years as well, as people are figuring out that it's not that expensive. One must also realize that the majority of gamers these days game on at least two platforms, there's plenty of room for players in the game.

Nobody in console history has EVER tried to do the extent of anti-consumerist BS that Microsoft is pulling with Xbone. Not once.

Paywalled F2P, locked used games, overpriced XBL, DRM disguised as 'cloud' power, 24hr online checks, etc, Xbone and Microsoft can go straight to hell.

Biggest dick move ever. The game isn't exactly free if you have to pay a subscription to play it.

 

[Arkaign]

yes, sony having 0 competition would be just what the console industry needs.

just like what happened with football games and the ea/nfl thing.

Again, if Microsoft left the biz, that's not zero competition. Anybody is free to make a console and games. Not even remotely equal to EA+NFL, where NOBODY else can make an NFL game.

This isn't personal against you even in the slightest by the way. As far as I'm concerned Microsoft can go straight to hell.

 

[Midwayman]

I think I'll pre-order another one just to balance the nay-sayers out.

If you don't like it, don't buy it. No need to go on and on about how its the worst thing ever and will be the end of the world as we know it.

DD is awesome, but there has to be some DRM involved. *Shrug* I guess I just used to not selling back games since I'm primarily a PC gamer and not poor.

 

[smackababy]

Anything is better than what Microsoft is cooking up with Xbone. Markets abhor vacuums anyway, if Microsoft falls on their face, it's not like Sony will be the only game in town. After all, Xbox original was vibrant enough during PS2's heydey. N64 was a success even if PS1 was the overall winner. PC gaming has been GROWING over the past few years as well, as people are figuring out that it's not that expensive. One must also realize that the majority of gamers these days game on at least two platforms, there's plenty of room for players in the game.

Nobody in console history has EVER tried to do the extent of anti-consumerist BS that Microsoft is pulling with Xbone. Not once.

Paywalled F2P, locked used games, overpriced XBL, DRM disguised as 'cloud' power, 24hr online checks, etc, Xbone and Microsoft can go straight to hell.

What other company is going to invest billions of dollars and years of development to make a console? The original Xbox lost MS money. The 360 barely started to make them money. That was over 10 years later to turn a profit. What company can even afford that?

I guess you think anyone can just make a Kickstarter and compete right? I bet you wonder why only nVidia and ATI make graphics cards.

 

[American Gunner]

I think I'll pre-order another one just to balance the nay-sayers out.

If you don't like it, don't buy it. No need to go on and on about how its the worst thing ever and will be the end of the world as we know it.

DD is awesome, but there has to be some DRM involved. *Shrug* I guess I just used to not selling back games since I'm primarily a PC gamer and not poor.

This shit is serious man. Don't you realize that every time MS sells a Xbox One, we get closer to being ass raped by aliens? Why can't you see what kind of danger you are putting all of us in?

 

[quest55720]

I think I'll pre-order another one just to balance the nay-sayers out.

If you don't like it, don't buy it. No need to go on and on about how its the worst thing ever and will be the end of the world as we know it.

DD is awesome, but there has to be some DRM involved. *Shrug* I guess I just used to not selling back games since I'm primarily a PC gamer and not poor.

there has been DD for 8 years and I can play my consoles offline for ever with my DD games. The DD games is no excuse for 24 hour check in.

 

[Midwayman]

This shit is serious man. Don't you realize that every time MS sells a Xbox One, we get closer to being ass raped by aliens? Why can't you see what kind of danger you are putting all of us in?

I think that must be part of their plans. They are in league with the greys, and want to anally probe you in front of the kinect so the NSA can record the data. The irony is you had to pay for the instrumentation for your own probing!