The Official DOOM 3 [H]ardware Guide

FullRoast

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Originally posted by: PorBleemo
Those are way too depressing...

I don't know, looks like you can get by with a 1.5 Gh P4, 512 MB of memory, and a GeForce 4 MX-440. "There is no doubt that DOOM 3?s minimum system specifications can easily deliver a good gaming experience", according to the article. That's lower spec's than I expected.
 

stickybytes

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Originally posted by: Anonemous
Originally posted by: PorBleemo
Those are way too depressing...

why? only one setup was deemed able to play the game at ultra high quality? :)

In the hardocp article, i think the ultra high quality setting was only enabled for video cards with 512mb of memory, which has yet to be released.
 

Oreo

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HardOCPs review system really sucks extremly bad. You get no overview of the different cards and CPU-plattforms and it's all subjective based on what they think are playable settings. Give me some freaking objective numbers and let me myself decide what I think is the best deal! NEXT!
 

DarkAmeba

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Originally posted by: Oreo
HardOCPs review system really sucks extremly bad. You get no overview of the different cards and CPU-plattforms and it's all subject based on what they think are playable settings. Give me some freaking objective numbers and let me myself decide what I think is the best deal! NEXT!

agreed
 

FullRoast

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Originally posted by: Oreo
HardOCPs review system really sucks extremly bad. You get no overview of the different cards and CPU-plattforms and it's all subject based on what they think are playable settings. Give me some freaking objective numbers and let me myself decide what I think is the best deal! NEXT!

Hmmm... I thought it was a great article - wide use of system platforms, variety of cards. I thought it was very enlightening. the only downside for me was that I still cannot justify upgrading my 3.0 GHz P4 system to a 939 pin A64 system. :)
 

Anonemous

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Originally posted by: stickybytes
Originally posted by: Anonemous
Originally posted by: PorBleemo
Those are way too depressing...

why? only one setup was deemed able to play the game at ultra high quality? :)

In the hardocp article, i think the ultra high quality setting was only enabled for video cards with 512mb of memory, which has yet to be released.


I was referring to this.
ULTRA DOOM SYSTEM
 

Sideswipe001

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Originally posted by: DarkAmeba
Originally posted by: Oreo
HardOCPs review system really sucks extremly bad. You get no overview of the different cards and CPU-plattforms and it's all subject based on what they think are playable settings. Give me some freaking objective numbers and let me myself decide what I think is the best deal! NEXT!

agreed

You will have a million other review sites give you the numbers you want. I find it enlightening to have a site actually play with the cards rather than using dry benchmarks. And if you read, they said they were highly conservitive wtih their results. That many people would find higher settings than the ones they listed as "playable".

Not everyone wants numbers. Some people just want to go find something similar to their setup and see what they can generally expect from the game as playable.

Also as a side note...they DID enable Ultra settings on a 256 MB card. They said you could enable it, but that it would just cause choppiness on most systems as the textures swapped out of the video card. Obviously their high end Doom3 machine played it (they have benchmarks with Ultra enabled), and they even say in the article that any card is free to TRY to run it.
 

Matthias99

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Originally posted by: Oreo
HardOCPs review system really sucks extremly bad. You get no overview of the different cards and CPU-plattforms and it's all subject based on what they think are playable settings. Give me some freaking objective numbers and let me myself decide what I think is the best deal! NEXT!

I have to say that while I like the FPS graphs they do, they REALLY need to list the min/avg/max FPS for all the different configs somewhere so you can see them side-by-side. You can't see them at all without clicking into the pages with the graphs!
 

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Originally posted by: Sideswipe001
Originally posted by: DarkAmeba
Originally posted by: Oreo
HardOCPs review system really sucks extremly bad. You get no overview of the different cards and CPU-plattforms and it's all subject based on what they think are playable settings. Give me some freaking objective numbers and let me myself decide what I think is the best deal! NEXT!

agreed

You will have a million other review sites give you the numbers you want. I find it enlightening to have a site actually play with the cards rather than using dry benchmarks. And if you read, they said they were highly conservitive wtih their results. That many people would find higher settings than the ones they listed as "playable".

Not everyone wants numbers. Some people just want to go find something similar to their setup and see what they can generally expect from the game as playable.

Also as a side note...they DID enable Ultra settings on a 256 MB card. They said you could enable it, but that it would just cause choppiness on most systems as the textures swapped out of the video card. Obviously their high end Doom3 machine played it (they have benchmarks with Ultra enabled), and they even say in the article that any card is free to TRY to run it.
To each his own I guess, I think they suck.
 

Chumster

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Originally posted by: Oreo
HardOCPs review system really sucks extremly bad. You get no overview of the different cards and CPU-plattforms and it's all subjective based on what they think are playable settings. Give me some freaking objective numbers and let me myself decide what I think is the best deal! NEXT!
I really dislike their new methods for reviewing hardware - graphics cards specifically. With that said, and as they are reviewing a piece of software, I feel that they did a fine job of showing what my rig will be able to handle. If nothing else, it's a great starting place from which I can tweak settings to achieve what I think are playable settings.

Chum

[edit]Grammar is hard for some.[/edit]
 

jpeyton

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Sounds like adding a vanilla 6800 to my rig will let me game at some high quality settings.
 
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Originally posted by: Chumster
Originally posted by: Oreo
HardOCPs review system really sucks extremly bad. You get no overview of the different cards and CPU-plattforms and it's all subjective based on what they think are playable settings. Give me some freaking objective numbers and let me myself decide what I think is the best deal! NEXT!

I really dislike their new methods for reviewing hardware - graphics cards specifically. With that said, and as they are reviewing a piece of software, I feel that they did a fine job of showing what the my rig will be able to handle. If nothing else, it's a great starting place from which I can tweak settings to achieve what I think are playable settings.

Chum

Exactly. It's a great buyers guide for people with different configurations trying to decide what to get.
 

Oreo

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Exactly. It's a great buyers guide for people with different configurations trying to decide what to get.
You could do the exact same thing with ordinary benchmarks.
 
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Originally posted by: Oreo
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Exactly. It's a great buyers guide for people with different configurations trying to decide what to get.
You could do the exact same thing with ordinary benchmarks.

You want to see a graph of benchmarks for every system with every card on every setting? That would be like 200 graphs. LOL
 

phray

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Originally posted by: Oreo
Originally posted by: Sideswipe001
Originally posted by: DarkAmeba
Originally posted by: Oreo
HardOCPs review system really sucks extremly bad. You get no overview of the different cards and CPU-plattforms and it's all subject based on what they think are playable settings. Give me some freaking objective numbers and let me myself decide what I think is the best deal! NEXT!

agreed

You will have a million other review sites give you the numbers you want. I find it enlightening to have a site actually play with the cards rather than using dry benchmarks. And if you read, they said they were highly conservitive wtih their results. That many people would find higher settings than the ones they listed as "playable".

Not everyone wants numbers. Some people just want to go find something similar to their setup and see what they can generally expect from the game as playable.

Also as a side note...they DID enable Ultra settings on a 256 MB card. They said you could enable it, but that it would just cause choppiness on most systems as the textures swapped out of the video card. Obviously their high end Doom3 machine played it (they have benchmarks with Ultra enabled), and they even say in the article that any card is free to TRY to run it.
To each his own I guess, I think they suck.

exactally. i personally like the way they do their reviews, because it gives me another angle to look at. a lot of people get WAY to woked up about benchmarks and numbers. i've heard people point to a benchmark and say, 'look X dominated Y' when there was a 1fps difference.

however sometimes its really vital to see the raw benchmarks to get a good picture of whats really going on. so i guess its best to not ever just rely on one sites review/benchmark/whatever. i like to use my brain when it comes to things like this. some people don't want a subjective opinion, and thats their perrogotive. to each his own.
 

DarkKnight

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are 4.1 speakers similar to 5.1 speakers or is 5.1 much better? Will the difference have an impact on doom3 ?
 
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Originally posted by: DarkKnight
are 4.1 speakers similar to 5.1 speakers or is 5.1 much better? Will the difference have an impact on doom3 ?

Personally, I think a center channel speaker is very important. Can't comment on Doom 3 specifically though, obviously.