zinfamous
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Wow. You sir, have been missing out on stocking up scales and bones. Not to mention, I enjoy the break in adventure questing when a dragon appears. You hear the roar in the background, then the music starts to play and I get all excited.
yeha, that used to annoy me a ton. especially when I'm trying to finish something up quickly or an NPC is following me and I'm trying to keep them alive--and especially when dragons were tough for me.
Now, I hear that music and wing flaps and I'm like "Come at me, brah!"
Only problem is, some of the dragons are bugged for me. I killed the one beastbarrow hill, or whatever it's called--out in those east central/south sulfur pit wasteland area, long before I got the bounty from Windhelm. It was also lsited as cleared without having explored the actual dragon perch (as usual, dragon comes after me while I'm well away from the actual perch/mappable spot). So then I get the bounty, even though it is cleared and unexplored, and I never get an option to claim the bounty, even after going back and exploring.
Likewise, Jarl of Riften won't officially grant my Thane title. I bought the house and decorated it out, and still have the quest to return to the Jarl, but she won't do anything, and that quest just sits there. These are the kind of obnoxious bugs that I have.
Never could do the drinking thing in Whiterun tavern because when I wake up in the temple in Markrath, either one of the items that I need to pick up is not there, or I get a CTD when I try to exit the temple (only happened once--the first time). Now, that dude is nowhere to be seen in the tavern. Oh well.
thespyder
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From my perspective, you are moving through the main quest awefully fast. Personally I like to take my time and explore the scenery a bit first. Totally up to you on that though. You still have lots of time.
As for doing a 2H Battlemage, this is a valid approach, but it depends on how you go about it. For instance, if you are trying to bulk up on Devistatio and Alteration and conjuration and Restoration and 2H and heavy armor and blocking and smithing and enchanting, you are going to end up with a muddle which isn't good at anything.
However, if you are focusing on battle (putting all your perks in 2H and armor and smithing) and maybe just raising skills in Restoration (but no perks) you should be fine. Best to pick one style of play and go with that. Not to say you can't do "Everything", just the more you do, the less you are going to be good at any one thing.
Yeah I'm trying to explore on the way, little did I realize my exploration led me on the way of the main quest as well
As for skilling up, I'm going to probably pick 5 primary skills and stick to that (2H, Heavy Armor, BS, Enchanting and the last probably Destro). I just don't want to 'muddle' my character as you say which is why I didn't even put any points into perks yet.
By the way, is there a console command to reset levels or perk points?
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The staff that guy gives you is bad ass. It isn't necessarilly in Whiterun, it is the tavern you were nearest to when you attained a certain level (I think 16). The quest is quite amusing, and was probably the toughest quest I have played in the game (I got killed probably a dozen times in the last part, until I finally broke down and looked up how to cheat to get past it.) Although that was before I had the bad-ass character I have now.
So far only one of the dragons was bugged for me, where I killed it and it wouldn't give me its soul. It may have been because 2 dragons were spawned in that spot instead of just one, and I only managed to get one to fight me.
I have to say I am enjoying the college of Winterhold quests. I am not a mage character at all (I have only 130 magicka, with my stamina and health both over 250). I generally only use the magelight spell to help me see in the caves. Because of that, I never went to Winterhold, but I found that one of Gaundus (sp?) Amulet pieces was locked up until I started the Winterhold quests, so I went to Winterhold to start it just to get the amulet. Now that I have started it, it is the best questline of any that I have played so far. I really like how they set up the college compared to how the Mages Guild was set up in Oblivion. This way is much more believable.
I avoided reading any walkthroughs or spoilers until I had the game in hand and had been playing awhile. So early on I didn't really know what the "main" quest was. I just wander the world and take what comes. On the dragon quest I hit up the greybeards pretty early and retrieved the horn for them. Then there was a long pause before I eventually did the stuff in Riften mostly because something else took me there. I'm level 17 now and on another break while some folks wait for me at Sky Temple
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You know if you play as a mage you really don't need any npc companions,especially if you got decent skill in conjuration ,just summon a Dadrea Lord or two and off you go killing
On the other hand, they are pretty nice pack mules. They'll either follow you or stay where you put them. They can carry a fair bit (at least Lydia can). They're pretty good at defending themselves. You can upgrade their equipment. Beats the four-legged variety any day.
zinfamous
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You know if you play as a mage you really don't need any npc companions,especially if you got decent skill in conjuration ,just summon a Dadrea Lord or two and off you go killing
yeah, but mages are pussies.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhBiNx749Zw
Though, I do see this as an awesome and valid reason to be a pussy caster:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0cyWTihEC8
zinfamous
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Yep, I only use console for carry weight, atm--as you have to reset them every time you load.
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Console
zinfamous
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by the way--upgrading shield to 50% fire/frost/lightening = mage meat.
I kept getting my ass handed to me trying to get the Black Star--
, but then put into the elemental blocking perk, and holy shit. It's like I just became invincible to everything.
Of course, I had also just picked up an Ebony Shield of 60% fire resist, Tyndol's awesomeass helmet--that gives you 40% frost resist (actually, that ebony shield dropped for me in his chest, because I waited until level 42? is that where I am? to do that cairn).
that is an awesome helmet. Easy to get, too. quick dungeon.
I kept getting my ass handed to me trying to get the Black Star--
the part inside the soul gem where you have some high level Daedric demon casters that melt the fuck out of you
Of course, I had also just picked up an Ebony Shield of 60% fire resist, Tyndol's awesomeass helmet--that gives you 40% frost resist (actually, that ebony shield dropped for me in his chest, because I waited until level 42? is that where I am? to do that cairn).
that is an awesome helmet. Easy to get, too. quick dungeon.
Mem
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yeah, but mages are pussies.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhBiNx749Zw
Though, I do see this as an awesome and valid reason to be a pussy caster:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0cyWTihEC8
Depends on your mage,mine is a battle mage with dragon bone armour using either sword or mace so can look after himself in a fight even without magic,yes I've 100 speech,100 destruction ,100 Conjuration,100 smithing,100 enchanting and almost 100 in one handed and lockpicking,mages can be bad asses as well
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zinfamous
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yeah, I really liked the start of that drinking quest, but it never would work for me. I think if I had just bought off that lady instead of trying to clean up, it would have worked. Now he's gone.
I'll keep looking, I guess. But he only ever appeared in Whiterun for me. Though, I've seen Delphine in Whiterun, and I'm supposed to be meeting her in Riverhold, so I guess these dude do move around a bit.I do like the college quests, even as a mele guy. I, too, had hopes of being something of a battle mage, with an early perk into destruction and early-game focus on leveling up those skills (at least eh skill levels hurt nothing). But, I found that stamina has become far more important to me, and trying to switch from casting to a shield/sword set is completely broken (at the very least, allow us to quip spells in the primary hand and shield in the offhand, no? or freaking allow us to actually save an offhand weapon as a real hotkey. what a bunch of balls).
Anyhoo, I'm not sure if I will finish them, but it was fun trying to get through Saarthall with a dinky robe and weak ass destruction spells.
I eventually had to go back to my real gear to pound on that Overlord or Scourge or whatever it was at the end.
WHich reminds me, another frequent bug that I have: The perk that slows time when you block during an opponents power attack. Roughly 30% of the time, the game will become frozen in slow down mode. Funny, as it will allow me to just run around and hack at every thing in a mob until it is dead, while suffering no damage myself. Of course, it often becomes completely locked, and I have to F9. Sometimes, it will sit there for 5 minutes before going back to normal. When it happens, it starts to happen repeatedly. I'm not really trying to slow down time, just blocking normally and bashing, and it just happens.
I would advise to avoid the perk altogether and save it for something more useful, like enchanting or one of the other amazing blocking perks, as it really isn't that useful anyway. When it works right, it can be nice, but I think it's a bit too "Matrixy" for my taste. Doesn't really belong, if you ask me. :\ Good thing is that it isn't required to open other perks in the blocking tree.
zinfamous
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Depends on your mage,mine is a battle mage with dragon bone armour using either sword or mace so can look after himself in a fight even without magic,yes I've 100 speech,100 destruction ,100 Conjuration,100 smithing,100 enchanting and almost 100 in one handed and lockpicking,mages can be bad asses as well
Well, I might still get my character there, as well. I've put only 2 perks into heavy armor and one into light, even though I've opened all but Dragon and Daedric for smithing.
I figure this will give me some wiggle room for settling down in the end. I also perked sneak up to backstab, which has always been great. I think I have two perks into destruction--not sure. Most of my mele is one-handed and blocking, with focus on sword (though I did unlock the DW branch). Currently working on Enchanting...so I might be spread a bit too thin in the end. We'll see.
Mem
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I'm working on illusion now(going to max that), I hear you get invisibility at 70
, also being boss of thieves guild that will come in very handy for my mage .
zinfamous
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I avoided reading any walkthroughs or spoilers until I had the game in hand and had been playing awhile. So early on I didn't really know what the "main" quest was. I just wander the world and take what comes. On the dragon quest I hit up the greybeards pretty early and retrieved the horn for them. Then there was a long pause before I eventually did the stuff in Riften mostly because something else took me there. I'm level 17 now and on another break while some folks wait for me at Sky Temple
I think I went from level 22 to 37 or 40--I forget where I am right now--between meeting the grey beards and actually going after the horn. I did the first follow up quest after that, and may run a few more before heading off on other side quests. not sure...I'm getting some nice drops though, heh.
zerocool84
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So if I'm an Orc and focusing on two handed, I should be dumping points in stamina instead of health? I'm lvl 14 and I've mostly done health. I get my ass kicked if there are a few mages in a room.
zinfamous
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I don't know if stamina matters as much for two handed--you can swing both weapons without as much need for power attacks to get some great damage. (make sure you have a dagger in the offhand--it determines the speed of your dual attacks, and generally increases your DPS).
For me, Stamina is essential b/c I spend so much time Shield bashing. I find it to be one of the more essential mele techniques in the game--especially if mages are giving you trouble.
Good thing about going dual-wielding, though, is that it only takes 2 extra perks, but still allows you to focus on other on-hand techniques.
Er... two handed generally refers to two handed weapons, not dual wielding, which is generally called, well, dual wielding.
I just started another character that should be a bit of fun. Orc necromancer with two handed weapons and heavy armor. Won't really be using any spells other than the Raise Dead variants, and probably Magelight (my various graphics tweaks have created a real need for it in darker areas - which is both slightly annoying and much more immersive). I'll probably be roleplaying him into a slow decent into insanity to spice things up a bit.
shortylickens
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You need stamina for power attacks which is good for an orc. Also, assuming you dont cheat, you need stamina to hold more weight, which is a requirement as the game goes on.
Weapons are also highly dependent on smithing. Smithing is actually designed by some retard, because the way it works is just ridiculous.
take 1H swords. Base 1H sword damage is
13 - elven
14 - glass
15 - Ebony
16 - Daedric
So Daedric weapons do 3 more damage than Elven, or 23% more damage... Cool, that's a good chunk more powerful. All skills and perks scale a % based on this, so Daedric will always be 23% higher damage than Elven.
But Smithing adds to the base damage... an equal amount to any item type. 100 smithing (actually 91, you don't get another +1 until over 100) with a perk in the skill for the weapon adds +10 base damage, now 1H smithed swords are:
23 - elven
24 - glass
25 - ebony
26 - daedric
Now daedric is only 13% more powerful than Elven and less than 7% better than glass. The advantage of daedric is half.
Wear smithing enchants and use a store bought potion to increase your smithing and you cut the advantage of daedric in half again and the difference between glass and Daedric becomes pretty small for 4 perk points. If you could "reach over the top" from dragonscale to daedric it might make more sense.
So you don't really need the right hand side smithing perks for weapons. You really only need to go as far as elven for light armor and heavy you can choose to go to steel plate or to Orcish (steel is doable, but you want to go to elven anyway for weapons). It works out that perks in alchemy or enchanting to make better + smithing items are more valueable for smithing than every perk in smithing past the 2nd because elven is so high up the scale on damage for only 2 perk points.
Like I said, the design is nonsensical, but that's how it is.
zokudu
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Its easier to dump the two points into Pickpocket to get +100 carry weight and chug stamina pots and put all your level ups into health. At least IMO.
yeah, I really liked the start of that drinking quest, but it never would work for me. I think if I had just bought off that lady instead of trying to clean up, it would have worked. Now he's gone.
I do like the college quests, even as a mele guy. I, too, had hopes of being something of a battle mage, with an early perk into destruction and early-game focus on leveling up those skills (at least eh skill levels hurt nothing). But, I found that stamina has become far more important to me, and trying to switch from casting to a shield/sword set is completely broken (at the very least, allow us to quip spells in the primary hand and shield in the offhand, no? or freaking allow us to actually save an offhand weapon as a real hotkey. what a bunch of balls).
Anyhoo, I'm not sure if I will finish them, but it was fun trying to get through Saarthall with a dinky robe and weak ass destruction spells.I eventually had to go back to my real gear to pound on that Overlord or Scourge or whatever it was at the end.
WHich reminds me, another frequent bug that I have: The perk that slows time when you block during an opponents power attack. Roughly 30% of the time, the game will become frozen in slow down mode. Funny, as it will allow me to just run around and hack at every thing in a mob until it is dead, while suffering no damage myself. Of course, it often becomes completely locked, and I have to F9. Sometimes, it will sit there for 5 minutes before going back to normal. When it happens, it starts to happen repeatedly. I'm not really trying to slow down time, just blocking normally and bashing, and it just happens.
I would advise to avoid the perk altogether and save it for something more useful, like enchanting or one of the other amazing blocking perks, as it really isn't that useful anyway. When it works right, it can be nice, but I think it's a bit too "Matrixy" for my taste. Doesn't really belong, if you ask me. :\ Good thing is that it isn't required to open other perks in the blocking tree.
He isnt at the bar anymore. The rest of that quest is all about figuring out what you did while blacked out and finding him. Just go back to the hall where you had to clean up and look at the quest markers to find the stuff you needed to clean up, or try to bribe her. Although if you are already at level 40 then the staff may not be so useful. I really dont use mine anymore, but it was really useful in the lower levels!
HybridSquirrel
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