The NRA’s internal revolt over Philando Castile

[NAC4EV]

The NRA rushed to mourn dead Dallas PD officers, but has been silent on the death of a licensed gun owner at the hands of police.

http://fusion.net/story/323189/nra-members-response-philando-castile-shooting/

http://www.mediaite.com/online/the-nra-releases-statement-on-dallas-shooting/

 

[thraashman]

The NRA is at the end of the day a white supremacist organization. Had the police shot a white licensed gun owner, the NRA would have put out a statement denouncing it.

 

[Artdeco]

I wasn't aware the NRA is obligated to agree with you, did I miss a memo?

 

[MongGrel]

You've still never explained why anything is really wrong ever, OP.

For being as antigun as you are to begin with that avatar has always been a bit of a joke.

You should have Bugs Bunny or something.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Yeah... Any NRA member expecting them to actually care about people joined the wrong club.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

It couldn't be due the fact that in the later case it's not fully known what transpired.

@traaashman I don't where you live but in my travels throughout the US I see NRA stickers on quite a few vehicles owned by minorities, about 35% to 40% of the vechicles that have the sticker displayed.

 

[Jaskalas]

You make it sound like they are actively resisting showing solidarity for a black man. I can't believe they'd stoop to that. You are indignant because they have not taken an action you want. That alone is not enough to prove anything.

As for Dallas, that was a significant act of terror on the scale of the Boston bombers. Worst day for police since September 11th. Its impact is going to cause headlines and responses.

 

[fskimospy]

It couldn't be due the fact that in the later case it's not fully known what transpired.

@traaashman I don't where you live but in my travels throughout the US I see NRA stickers on quite a few vehicles owned by minorities, about 35% to 40% of the vechicles that have the sticker displayed.

Considering the fact that minorities in the US pretty overwhelmingly support increased gun control it's likely you aren't seeing a very representative sample.

 

[Artdeco]

Considering the fact that minorities in the US pretty overwhelmingly support increased gun control it's likely you aren't seeing a very representative sample.

So you can't be bothered to provide any stats, huh?

 

[Kwatt]

Considering the fact that minorities in the US pretty overwhelmingly support increased gun control it's likely you aren't seeing a very representative sample.

Is there a link available? I would like to read more.

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[Knowing]

The NRA rushed to mourn dead Dallas PD officers, but has been silent on the death of a licensed gun owner at the hands of police.

I posted links to 3 different gun forums when news of the shooting first broke and the initial sentiment was was entirely in support of the deceased. More information has come to light and the NRA probably doesn't want to officially jump in with both feet because then you'll turn around and blame them for supporting a "gun enthusiast" who was doing it wrong.

The Dallas PD officers were unequivocally victims, they had absolutely nothing to do with the unfortunate shootings in two other states.

 

[MongGrel]

@traaashman I don't where you live but in my travels throughout the US I see NRA stickers on quite a few vehicles owned by minorities, about 35% to 40% of the vechicles that have the sticker displayed.

Not to sound cynical, but that could almost camoflauge in some areas with a few people.

 

[NTMBK]

The NRA is at the end of the day a white supremacist organization. Had the police shot a white licensed gun owner, the NRA would have put out a statement denouncing it.

At the end of the day they are an industry lobby group aiming to sell more product. Their driving motivation is greed, not morals.

 

[KB]

It looks like they released a statement:

"Update: The NRA has released a statement saying that while it finds “[t]he reports from Minnesota troubling…it is important for the NRA not to comment while the investigation is ongoing.” The statement does not mention Philando Castile’s name or police involvement."

http://fusion.net/story/323189/nra-members-response-philando-castile-shooting/

This is likely the right move by the NRA to respond indirectly. I think more people/organizations should get the whole facts before coming to a conclusion. Although it looks bad at first, we still don't know what happened before the camera turned on.

 

[HomerJS]

It looks like they released a statement:

"Update: The NRA has released a statement saying that while it finds “[t]he reports from Minnesota troubling…it is important for the NRA not to comment while the investigation is ongoing.” The statement does not mention Philando Castile’s name or police involvement."

http://fusion.net/story/323189/nra-members-response-philando-castile-shooting/

This is likely the right move by the NRA to respond indirectly. I think more people/organizations should get the whole facts before coming to a conclusion. Although it looks bad at first, we still don't know what happened before the camera turned on.

Aren't the Dallas shootings still being investigated?

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Aren't the Dallas shootings still being investigated?

No!

 

[tracerbullet]

It does appear whites are more likely than minorities (and men more than women) to control gun ownership:

http://www.pewresearch.org/files/old-assets/pdf/gun-control-2011.pdf

 

[Genx87]

I think they dropped the ball on this shooting. A CC holder gets shot by a cop for doing what the cop tells him to do and the NRA gives the party line of waiting on the investigation. But it doesnt surprise me. Most people seem more outraged at the Dallas shootings than some poor guy with his family being shot by an incompetent cop.

 

[Pens1566]

The NRA isn't out to defend the 2A for anyone but gun manufacturers. They're a despicable organization and part of the problem.

 

[Subyman]

Two completely different situations. The Dallas shooter was targeting and killing cops. He left his house to kill police. Easy to back up the police here, anyone would. The other case is certainly leaning toward the CCW owner being unjustifiably killed, but in that case it would be better to wait before jumping in head first.

I can see why they are waiting.

 

[K1052]

At the end of the day they are an industry lobby group aiming to sell more product. Their driving motivation is greed, not morals.

That's what they've become anyway. Didn't used to be the case but job one is now to scare the morons into scooping up everything they can get their hands on. I gave up my membership years ago.

 

[TakeNoPrisoners]

The NRA isn't out to defend the 2A for anyone but gun manufacturers. They're a despicable organization and part of the problem.

Dead wrong, most of their funding comes from private donations and membership fees.

 

[WackyDan]

It looks like they released a statement:

"Update: The NRA has released a statement saying that while it finds “[t]he reports from Minnesota troubling…it is important for the NRA not to comment while the investigation is ongoing.” The statement does not mention Philando Castile’s name or police involvement."

http://fusion.net/story/323189/nra-members-response-philando-castile-shooting/

This is likely the right move by the NRA to respond indirectly. I think more people/organizations should get the whole facts before coming to a conclusion. Although it looks bad at first, we still don't know what happened before the camera turned on.

Bingo.... More importantly the fact of whether or not he was legally concealed carrying is not actually verified last I knew.

 

[WackyDan]

Aren't the Dallas shootings still being investigated?

Yes? Fact remains, 5 officers who were there doing their jobs died that night in a racially motivated attack. There are enough facts there for someone to take a stand with.

The MN Shooting? Lots of unknowns and only a lot of public opinion based off of a video taken after the shooting occurred.

 

[IEC]

The NRA is at the end of the day a white supremacist organization. Had the police shot a white licensed gun owner, the NRA would have put out a statement denouncing it.

That statement is flat out wrong.

<-- 0% white NRA endowment member.