I made this post http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=374416 and I also posted on the Nokia forums about Symbian.
I think for one it's a shame to see Symbian dead, I have no affinity towards it, never used a Nokia phone since the 3310, though since the 808 the GS4 isn't looking like the quite clear cut choice it did, I might see what Nokia make next instead of upgrading to the GS4. Symbian Belle is good, it's pretty much Android and IOS combined, it's not perfect but it blends the open OS of Android with the smoothness of IOS nicely. It came too late, when people had written off Symbian and Nokia never released it on good Hardware, though I went into that in my post. I have to say though it's all based on reading, not my personal experience with Symbian in the past and Belle is my first experience of it.
Besides the 808 being an amazingly well made phone, so easy to take apart and repair yourself, while still feeling like it is high quality. Besides it having a Micro SD, a HDMI port, a removable battery and all the goodness you want that Apple as fooled people into believing they don't want this stuff. What the 808 has taught me is I don't care about specs, I don't care about PPI or resolution or any of the marketing crap.
Using the 808 it has a low resolution screen compared to any Smart Phone in the past 2 years, it's like 300 x 600 or something along them lines. It has a like 180 PPI screen and it's 4 inches and not 5+ or whatever.
Looking at the screen the UI and the way the software is designed, it makes it look fine. The resolution may be low but the software is designed in such a way, it looks like any other phone. Sure if you hold a GN2 or whatever against it, the screen may look low res or whatever, however you don't do this in real life. The colours look great, the black levels are amazing and tbh moving from my GS2 to this...... I don't see a step down. I can view a browser on my friends GN2 and on my 808 and yeh the small text due to the low PPI of 180 odd makes the text unreadable. That said however I do not have hawk eyes to view it comfortably as standard on the GN2 either, I end up zooming in on text all the time on whatever device I use. Once you zoom in suddenlt 180PPI looks like 300PPI or whatever the GN2 has.
Specs of the phones internals, the 808 has something along the lines of the iPhone 4 with a single core CPU and 512mb of ram and yet that seems enough. I mean nothing lags (but the browser) and I just feel like what do I do wioth my phone that needs that much power? I've been caught up in marketing hype of more powerful hardware but I've never stopped to think to balance it out. Really the only thing that needs more powerful hardware is games and most of them suck on Smart Phones anyways, the only good thing is usually the 2D games built for the Touch Screen and they play on anything. I have no desire to play GTA VC for a mobile... I mean I'd just play it on a proper system thanx like a PC. I also question what software on mobiles even uses the GS2 specs to the max, that phone has never lagged, performance other than on benchmarks doesn't change between dual ore quad core or 512 ram to 1gb or a Adreno 225 to a 320...
The 808 has really made me think of the the package on the whole and the only thing the 808 lacks really is the apps due to Symbian being dead. Like I said in my post that means it's pretty much a throw away Mobile for me when my upgrade comes along. However I will pay attention to Nokia in the future as the build quality of the 808 has impressed me, I just wish they didn't ditch Symbian. Looking at the timeline, they released this Belle version and then ditched it a month later.......... just when Nokia made Symbian good from the looks of it.
I mean I've had a great time with Symbian so far, just the lack of apps that has ruined it. Sadly though that is down to a lack of good hardware, which their first good smart phone was the 920, which they used on Windows Phone. The software has lacked but just been improved with Belle, though sadly previous versions of symbian has put people off and as a result there is no good app support. So it's a bit of a tough spot for Nokia, though if I was in charge I'd have stuck with Symbian and carried on to improve Belle.
The 808 has the best speaker I've ever had with a Smart Phone, it has the best mics and it has the best camera by miles and miles. In fact the camera is so good it beats those £200-300 digital cams you get. The great thing as well is combined with the great mics, you can shoot 1080P smooth video with great audio and it has image stabilization unlike any other smart phone but the 920. I mean I can run with this phone and it stays smooth... I held an iPhone 5 up against the 808 and just moving side to side slowly and the iPhone 5 video was all warping and wobbly and the 808 was smooth as butter.
I really want the whole experience wit upcoming phones now the 808 has opened my eyes. The funny thing is Nokia with a Micro SD slot, Removable Battery HDMI port, great audio, great camera, great open source software, amazing building quality and good specs, Nokia + Symbian could have been the only ones to offer this.
I'll defo pay attention to whatever they do in the future though, if they make an 808 2 I'll defo be there.
I think for one it's a shame to see Symbian dead, I have no affinity towards it, never used a Nokia phone since the 3310, though since the 808 the GS4 isn't looking like the quite clear cut choice it did, I might see what Nokia make next instead of upgrading to the GS4. Symbian Belle is good, it's pretty much Android and IOS combined, it's not perfect but it blends the open OS of Android with the smoothness of IOS nicely. It came too late, when people had written off Symbian and Nokia never released it on good Hardware, though I went into that in my post. I have to say though it's all based on reading, not my personal experience with Symbian in the past and Belle is my first experience of it.
Besides the 808 being an amazingly well made phone, so easy to take apart and repair yourself, while still feeling like it is high quality. Besides it having a Micro SD, a HDMI port, a removable battery and all the goodness you want that Apple as fooled people into believing they don't want this stuff. What the 808 has taught me is I don't care about specs, I don't care about PPI or resolution or any of the marketing crap.
Using the 808 it has a low resolution screen compared to any Smart Phone in the past 2 years, it's like 300 x 600 or something along them lines. It has a like 180 PPI screen and it's 4 inches and not 5+ or whatever.
Looking at the screen the UI and the way the software is designed, it makes it look fine. The resolution may be low but the software is designed in such a way, it looks like any other phone. Sure if you hold a GN2 or whatever against it, the screen may look low res or whatever, however you don't do this in real life. The colours look great, the black levels are amazing and tbh moving from my GS2 to this...... I don't see a step down. I can view a browser on my friends GN2 and on my 808 and yeh the small text due to the low PPI of 180 odd makes the text unreadable. That said however I do not have hawk eyes to view it comfortably as standard on the GN2 either, I end up zooming in on text all the time on whatever device I use. Once you zoom in suddenlt 180PPI looks like 300PPI or whatever the GN2 has.
Specs of the phones internals, the 808 has something along the lines of the iPhone 4 with a single core CPU and 512mb of ram and yet that seems enough. I mean nothing lags (but the browser) and I just feel like what do I do wioth my phone that needs that much power? I've been caught up in marketing hype of more powerful hardware but I've never stopped to think to balance it out. Really the only thing that needs more powerful hardware is games and most of them suck on Smart Phones anyways, the only good thing is usually the 2D games built for the Touch Screen and they play on anything. I have no desire to play GTA VC for a mobile... I mean I'd just play it on a proper system thanx like a PC. I also question what software on mobiles even uses the GS2 specs to the max, that phone has never lagged, performance other than on benchmarks doesn't change between dual ore quad core or 512 ram to 1gb or a Adreno 225 to a 320...
The 808 has really made me think of the the package on the whole and the only thing the 808 lacks really is the apps due to Symbian being dead. Like I said in my post that means it's pretty much a throw away Mobile for me when my upgrade comes along. However I will pay attention to Nokia in the future as the build quality of the 808 has impressed me, I just wish they didn't ditch Symbian. Looking at the timeline, they released this Belle version and then ditched it a month later.......... just when Nokia made Symbian good from the looks of it.
I mean I've had a great time with Symbian so far, just the lack of apps that has ruined it. Sadly though that is down to a lack of good hardware, which their first good smart phone was the 920, which they used on Windows Phone. The software has lacked but just been improved with Belle, though sadly previous versions of symbian has put people off and as a result there is no good app support. So it's a bit of a tough spot for Nokia, though if I was in charge I'd have stuck with Symbian and carried on to improve Belle.
The 808 has the best speaker I've ever had with a Smart Phone, it has the best mics and it has the best camera by miles and miles. In fact the camera is so good it beats those £200-300 digital cams you get. The great thing as well is combined with the great mics, you can shoot 1080P smooth video with great audio and it has image stabilization unlike any other smart phone but the 920. I mean I can run with this phone and it stays smooth... I held an iPhone 5 up against the 808 and just moving side to side slowly and the iPhone 5 video was all warping and wobbly and the 808 was smooth as butter.
I really want the whole experience wit upcoming phones now the 808 has opened my eyes. The funny thing is Nokia with a Micro SD slot, Removable Battery HDMI port, great audio, great camera, great open source software, amazing building quality and good specs, Nokia + Symbian could have been the only ones to offer this.
I'll defo pay attention to whatever they do in the future though, if they make an 808 2 I'll defo be there.
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