- Jul 20, 2001
My lovely lady lumps
List of people I will share a sleeping bag with:You know soap is really bad for you, don't you, OP? It can make you filthier, and it is certainly really quite bad for your skin health.
This thing you are doing is a colossal waste of money.
Soap should only ever be used "where skin folds over other skin." The rest of your dermis is naturally self-cleansing, and self-protective. Every time you scrub yourself with soap, you're destroying several millimeters of anti-bacterial, anti-viral protection. It's very bad for you, and is also exactly why the very same industry that convinced you to soap up every inch of your body, later had to create all of these pointless "moisturizing" products that humanity never needed, an certainly doesn't need, save for Big Soap's desire to remain preposterously profitable.
You're a total rube, OP.
The reason I'm not giving any help is you have clearly demonstrated you don't understand the dangers; you thought adding the base and neutralizing the saponified product is the dangerous part. It's not. What the real danger is to you (and everyone around you) is the fire hazard:
"Man dies days after "butane honey oil" explosion in Oxnard" https://amp.vcstar.com/amp/6391818001
So no, lacking proper equipment and supervision I'm not providing guidance to people who are going to pose a danger to themselves but really everyone around them.
You can find soap made from the shit you want and honestly all you're doing is making hipster shit a la fight club that isn't doing anything for your hair or scalp as you claim (and the obsession is honestly disturbing at this point). Given the number of existing grifters in the health and beauty market (which has to be the most saturated market on the planet outside of MAYBE real estate speculation), if what you were attempting had any real benefit, someone would lost certainly be doing it by now.
Quit while you're behind.
You could try the freezer trick (fractional crystallization) but 1) those melting points are very close and 2) those melting points are only valid for pure substances, not mixes. I think it wont work.OK, Lab Rat, fine, you win. Forget it. I give up. But let me ask you a totally different theoretical question then.
Let's say you had a mix of fatty acids, all perfectly extracted, using the method above that you don't want to spell out for me. Just assume, POOF, they are there, all perfect.
But now you want to extract out ONE of those several types of fatty acids out of the mix. Let's make it a simple example, and probably the hardest to separate.
Let's say you have a mixture of what you are sure is 70% linoleic acid and 30% linolenic acid.
Now, these are VERY similar substances. The differences in physical properties are small.
The freezing point of the former is apparently -5 degrees celcius, the latter -11 degrees celsius.
So could you get a freezer, set it on -5 degrees (or -6 or -7) , and freeze the former, pouring out the latter, thus separating them? I worry that because they are miscible in one another (maybe that is not the correct word) this would not work because they become a joint/combined liquid and they will just freeze out at some temperature (probably somewhere between -5 and -11 I would guess) at the same time, doing you no good. Does that sound right that that won't work?
Now, apparently linoleic acid has a boiling point of around 400 degrees celcius, linolenic acid is closer to 450 degrees celcius. So, theoretically, could you boil the mix at the 400 degrees and wait until approximately 70% of the total has distilled out, leaving only 30% behind, and what remains should MOSTLY be linolenic acid? I know their boiling points are not that far apart so SOME linolenic acid would boil out as well, and so you would be left with SOME linoleic acid in the mix. But any guesstimate as to how much left behind would be the linolenic acid?
I'm reading about "columns" to separate out different types of free fatty acids. Like "silica" columns. And even some studies used "argonized silica colums" or some crap like that. Do you know anything about those?
Thank you so much Lab Rat, and I sincerely do appreciate you not wanting me to blow myself up.
I'm sure there are ways to isolate it, but as you see it won't be cheap. That shit probably isomerizes under visible light as well so unless you plan on working in the dark, it's probably toast anyway.And, let me add, it IS possible to extract it one way or another, it has to be, here is a link:
You can see how expensive it is (despite what the yahoos were saying earlier in this thread or the other thread, "just buy it, you are wasting your time when you could just buy it cheap!!!". You can see how expensive it is. But how did THEY get their purified linolenic acid? They made it somehow. But steam distillation? Those cancer causing columns? They had to get it purified SOMEHOW...
If he wants to use the soap as food, does it matter?I'm sure there are ways to isolate it, but as you see it won't be cheap. That shit probably isomerizes under visible light as well so unless you plan on working in the dark, it's probably toast anyway.
The better question is, WHY do you want to separate them? You're making soap. It doesn't fucking matter if you have the unsaturated or saturated versions. Doesn't. Fucking. Matter. Stop wasting your energy.