The next best thing?

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Bar81

Originally posted by: Zebo
Bar lets do a test, can your DTR run 1.8@1.2. If it can't these chips are superior and have more leg room which makes them a better buy. If it can then all cgs are the same and labled differently.

Again, read what I have stated. Just because at 1.8Ghz they work at 1.2v doesn't in any mean than they will overclock better. That's just an assumption based upon a whole different CPU. The Athlon64 overclocks do not improve with more voltage when you hit the wall at ~2.5Ghz thus showing you the limitations of even the new stepping CG chips, which the 1.2V mobiles are. If they could do 2.6Ghz then (1) AMD would intro the Athlon 4000+ on a 130 micron process and (2) AMD would introduce more low power A64s at higher clock speeds.

Tell me this, who in this thread besides myself has tested BOTH an Athlon 64 mobile and desktop CG stepping CPU? I would venture not a one of you. How you guys can, without any personal experience, comment on the current state of A64 overclocking continues to amaze me.

As to your other (useless) test; it's impossible as no motherboard will allow any CPU to undervolt to 1.2v In fact, thinking about it, I doubt any A64 motherboards have the correct voltage regulators to supply power at that low of a voltage meaning that the 1.2v mobiles aren't even viable candidates for anything outside of specifically created laptops.

Try and let me know. Plenty of boards allow 1.2 and much less. The test is hardly useless, it shows how well these chips will ramp up with increased or stock voltage applied. Just like the CG's *can* run at lower volts CO's they can overclcok better than the C0's.

I've never been to Iraq but I know it has 30 million people. It's called reading, parseing, interprtation etc. The better steppings will allow higher OC, the only question is the AX better than the AR's which I'm asking you to test.