The new ti 4800

[psy44]

Has anyone seen the new 4800 benchmarked? I heard that it supposedly is about the same speed as a ti 4600 with AGP 8x, and the SE is ti 4400 with AGP 8x. Oh, well, someone post a link please

 

[Adul]

why bother? we all know that the 9700 is faster 🙂

 

[chizow]

From the release notes with the GF FX, it is just the "marketing" names for existing parts. The only difference from 4600's and 4400's is that these cards are 8x AGP. No other changes to core/clock speeds or memory type (no DDRII or anything like that).

Chiz

 

[ArmchairAthlete]

So chizow, you're saying the Radeon 9700 Pro will still be the best card, even when FX comes out?

I hope so because I plan on investing $275 in one for my gaming PC this Christmas.

 

[CurtCold]

Originally posted by: ArmchairAthlete
So chizow, you're saying the Radeon 9700 Pro will still be the best card, even when FX comes out?

I hope so because I plan on investing $275 in one for my gaming PC this Christmas.

I would think so, even when FX comes out, all ATI would have to do to 9700 is add dual DDR right? Even if FX is faster/better, which I'm assuming it will be because it's newer, I don't think it's going to blow the 9700 out of the water. Then again maybe it will

 

[Woodchuck2000]

The Geforce FX will almost certainly be faster than the current 9700 Pro. Chizow mentioned it's press release because nvidia talked about the specs of the 9800 (SE) in it.

It won't be out until january at the earliest however, and will probably be considerably more expensive than the 9700.

 

[Woodchuck2000]

I would think so, even when FX comes out, all ATI would have to do to 9700 is add dual DDR right? Even if FX is faster/better, which I'm assuming it will be because it's newer, I don't think it's going to blow the 9700 out of the water. Then again maybe it will

The specs of the FX are considerably more advanced than those of the 9700 - I don't think that the 9700 will be anywhere near as fast in more advanced games, even with faster RAM. That said, those games are a long way away and both ATi and nVidia will probably have new products by then.

 

[Ilmater]

I was going to say mean things to Adul for such a stupid post, but I won't. I don't know how they're naming the different models (it's changed at least once), but I wouldn't worry about it. If you're thinking of getting a Ti4600, get either the Abit Siluro OTES, the Asus 8420 Deluxe, or one of the Albatron Turbo cards. All four cards (two choices of Albatron cards) have 8-layer extended PCBs, just like the Ti4600. Some of these (all of them?) are 8x AGP and use Tiny-BGA RAM (just like the 4600), and all of them use 3.3ns RAM (just like the 4600). However, they are all much cheaper than the 4600, and are 4200s. Every one of them can be overclocked to 4600 levels, so you will not suffer any performance losses. Just get a program like Rivatuner; it's extremely easy, and you'll save a lot of money.

I'd suggest going with the Albatron, as it is the cheapest ($183) with absolutely no loss to quality. I've heard that the OTES isn't that great of a cooler (better than average isn't great people), especially for the kind of sound its fan puts out. The Asus board is too expensive ($207) IMO. I forgot to mention that Asus has another board, the Asus V9280S/TVD. It's much like the others, but has [what looks like] a few more features. It's even more pricey than its brother ($220), but it's worth the extra if you can use those features.

As for this 8x thing, just in case you don't know, it doesn't make the slightest difference in any game currently out. I have yet to see any benchmarks that benefit over 5% from 8x, and that was in one bench in one game. I've seen more than one test that didn't show a single benchmark that increased by even 1% from being 8x instead of 4x. It's like the ATA specs; IDE hard drives barely saturate the ATA33 bus in most operations, so more isn't actually neccesary.

 

[EdipisReks]

who would want to buy a $180 ti4200 when you can get a Radeon 9500Pro?

 

[Woodchuck2000]

Originally posted by: EdipisReks
who would want to buy a $180 ti4200 when you can get a Radeon 9500Pro?

Over in the UK, a ti4200 128Mb is the same price as a 9500 64Mb (non pro.)

I know which card I'd rather have at the moment...

 

[EdipisReks]

glad i don't live in the UK.