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Moonbeam

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Trump needs to be impeached and deserves to be impeached. That is all there is too it. All the hemming and hawing about what a disaster impeachment might entail is completely irrelevant. You either live up to your moral responsibility to do what is right or you don't. Nothing just and right ever happens in our society any more because we are infected with moral relevancy. People have become moral cowards. There was a time in our history when Trump would have either run from or been shot in a duel. Trump not only could shoot somebody on 5th Avenue, he could also drop his pants and get a public blow job there. The country decided it needed to be governed by the King of Swine. We proudly worship our pig. Does anybody really wonder why Christ had to die for us to have been forgiven. Let's pretend this worm infected bacon slab was chosen by God to lead.
 
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DrDoug

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Republican politicians and the conservative base are not going to drop their support for the Oozing Orange Asshole until he hits an iceberg that sinks the ship. Once that happens they will abandon him. Until that happens, he owns them and can get away with whatever he wants.

There is no leadership on the political right, absolutely none. They are in a free-for-all smash-n-grab of the government and its institutions.
 

DarthKyrie

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Republican politicians and the conservative base are not going to drop their support for the Oozing Orange Asshole until he hits an iceberg that sinks the ship. Once that happens they will abandon him. Until that happens, he owns them and can get away with whatever he wants.

There is no leadership on the political right, absolutely none. They are in a free-for-all smash-n-grab of the government and its institutions.

Then when swept out of office like in 2008 they will tell the people that they lost their way under Trump and that it will never happen again. Then the rubes will vote them in again and they will wonder why the car crashed into the Hoover Dam from within the reservoir.
 

SMOGZINN

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If you are right then our democracy is essentially over. It will have taught the lesson that winning the Presidency is all that matters, and you should use any means necessary to do so. From there we will quickly spiral down into the corruption hell we see in nations that have a 'president' that is basically a dictator and elections that have pre-decided outcomes.
 

Moonbeam

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If you are right then our democracy is essentially over. It will have taught the lesson that winning the Presidency is all that matters, and you should use any means necessary to do so. From there we will quickly spiral down into the corruption hell we see in nations that have a 'president' that is basically a dictator and elections that have pre-decided outcomes.
I do not believe it will happen, so color me naive, but I believe the only way the Republican Party could bear the shame of their traitorous behavior to the nation into which it has fallen was when they could play dead without facing the consequences publicly. Now that they stand at the edge of disaster and look down to the realization they are about to be recorded in history as the worst collection of swine America has ever produced, I believe the intensity of shame they will need to suppress to actually destroy the country will prove too much for folk who pretend to morality to bear.

I believe they will crack, and if not, they will be broken by the righteous anger of those who have not fallen sick.

It’s time to sing our awkward National Anthem. Maybe pay special attention to the O W Holmes addition after the civil war and in particular the last two lines:

O say can you see, by the dawn's early light,
What so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last gleaming,
Whose broad stripes and bright stars through the perilous fight,
O'er the ramparts we watched, were so gallantly streaming?
And the rockets' red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there;
O say does that star-spangled banner yet wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?

On the shore dimly seen through the mists of the deep,
Where the foe's haughty host in dread silence reposes,
What is that which the breeze, o'er the towering steep,
As it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses?
Now it catches the gleam of the morning's first beam,
In full glory reflected now shines in the stream:
'Tis the star-spangled banner, O long may it wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion,
A home and a country, should leave us no more?
Their blood has washed out their foul footsteps' pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight, or the gloom of the grave:
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave,
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

O thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved homes and the war's desolation.
Blest with vict'ry and peace, may the Heav'n rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation!
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: 'In God is our trust.'
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave![47]

Additional Civil War period lyrics

Eighteen years after Key's death, and in indignation over the start of the American Civil War, Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr.[48] added a fifth stanza to the song in 1861, which appeared in songbooks of the era.[49]

When our land is illumined with Liberty's smile,
If a foe from within strike a blow at her glory,
Down, down with the traitor that dares to defile
The flag of her stars and the page of her story!
By the millions unchained, who our birthright have gained,
We will keep her bright blazon forever unstained!
And the Star-Spangled Banner in triumph shall wave
While the land of the free is the home of the brave.​