Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Did I miss where the broken law is?
Guess you would have to check each and every country's individual laws.
It is illegal for the government to hold prisoners in such isolation in secret prisons in the United States, which is why the CIA placed them overseas, according to several former and current intelligence officials and other U.S. government officials. Legal experts and intelligence officials said that the CIA's internment practices also would be considered illegal under the laws of several host countries, where detainees have rights to have a lawyer or to mount a defense against allegations of wrongdoing.
Host countries have signed the U.N. Convention Against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment, as has the United States. Yet CIA interrogators in the overseas sites are permitted to use the CIA's approved "Enhanced Interrogation Techniques," some of which are prohibited by the U.N. convention and by U.S. military law. They include tactics such as "waterboarding," in which a prisoner is made to believe he or she is drowning.
Some detainees apprehended by the CIA and transferred to foreign intelligence agencies have alleged after their release that they were tortured, although it is unclear whether CIA personnel played a role in the alleged abuse. Given the secrecy surrounding CIA detentions, such accusations have heightened concerns among foreign governments and human rights groups about CIA detention and interrogation practices.
I'm sure that the Bush administration will be upfront and forthright with the information regarding every country that was utilized or these prisioners were trafficed through so that there can be no doubt in anyone's mind that each country was either complicit in the acts or their laws were circumvented without their knowledge or approval.
You could go by the EU's investigation:
BRUSSELS -- Investigations into reports that US agents shipped prisoners through European airports to secret detention centers have produced no evidence of illegal CIA activities, the European Union's antiterrorism coordinator said yesterday.
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The investigations also have not turned up any proof of secret renditions of terror suspects on EU territory, Gijs de Vries told a European Parliament committee investigating the allegations.
The European Parliament's probe and a similar one by the continent's leading human rights watchdog are looking into whether US intelligence agents interrogated Al Qaeda suspects at secret prisons in Eastern Europe and transported some on secret flights through Europe.
But so far investigators have not identified any human rights violations, despite more than 50 hours of testimony by human rights activists and individuals who said they were abducted by US intelligence agents, de Vries said.
''We've heard all kinds of allegations, impressions; we've heard also refutations. It's up to your committee to weigh if they are true. It does not appear to be proven beyond reasonable doubt," he said. ''There has not been, to my knowledge, evidence that these illegal renditions have taken place."
See....that report could be taken seriously if not for stuff like this:
n March, the parliament heard testimony from Kuwaiti-born German citizen Khalid al-Masri, who said he was detained by foreign agents in Macedonia on Dec. 31, 2003 while on holiday. He said he was held and interrogated in a hotel in Skopje until Jan. 23 the following year and flown to Afghanistan, where he said he was tortured before being flown back to Europe and released in Albania five months later.
The lawmakers ? who were in Skopje last week to discuss al-Masri's allegations with Macedonian officials ? said records obtained from the EU's air traffic agency indicate there was a CIA-operated flight from Skopje to Kabul via Baghdad overnight from Jan. 23-24, 2004.
They said Macedonian officials for the first time confirmed that al-Masri stayed in an expensive hotel in Skopje for 23 days, but denied he was interrogated by CIA agents and insisted he left the country overland for Kosovo.
"But we were not allowed to see documentation proving he did leave overland. There is some need to find out what went on during those 23 days," said Italian Socialist deputy Giovanni Claudio Fava.
But Bush's own admission that renditions did take place makes their committee findings a moot point and adds validity to al-Masri's accounts. Are kidnapping and human trafficing somehow not illegal anymore? Oh...that's right, under the Bush admin's POV, you don't have to have done anything illegal. They just have to suspect that you have.
I don't think that I will wait for the Bush admin's release of documentation into this to happen for a thorough investigation to take place though.....Ive gotta attend my kids college graduation in 18 years.
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