Originally posted by: yankeesfan
How important is life? Spontaneously generated, we mean nothing. Just a natural formation of chemicals, no wonder man created a God to give us a meaningful purpose. I am not going to influence the universe, so why try to pursue a career to benefit myself? I am so sad.
"Spontaneously generated..."
How and/or by what?
Some of the most brilliant theoretical physicist of the last century were and/or are quite religious, and/or do believe in some supernatural entity or force, and think we have purpose.
Some of theoretical physics (e.g. string theory and even some particle physics) is highly speculative in nature.
Here are key points to consider:
1. We can all agree that a whole lot of mass and energy exists today and has existed for a very long time...
2. In our science experience we have a law which states that mass and energy can be neither created nor destroyed...merely converted from one form to another.
3. Well in light of #1 and #2...we have complete scientific impass according to our concept of space and time. If mass and energy can be neither created or destroyed...where the hell did all this mass/energy come from since, theoretically/philsophically, there must have been a "time" when all this stuff was NOT. Either that or we have to settle on the statement that: time and the existence of matter progresses back into history infinitely and we, therefore, can't probe it's absolute beginning. Well, I'll argue that that is an illogical argument which simply avoids the question of the origin of matter and existence as we know it...basically turning a blind eye on the whole question.
So there are two present answers to the origin of matter:
a) an event which exceeded/superceded natural physical law that was to follow thereafter... i.e. a supernatural / creational event.
b) the matter/anti-matter idea which, I think, is equally as supernatural. The notion that both matter and anti-matter particles formed from literally "nothing" (i.e. complete oblivion) and that matter stuck around while anti-matter mysteriously vanished immediately never heretofore reappear is equally as outlandish (to me anyway) as believing in the supernatural (i.e. God, a life force). This idea begs further questions and statements:
- We have never seen, been able to reproduce, matter / anti-matter splitting that actually holds -- that is, matter comes from nothing and stays around in an observable form for more than a picosecond (10^-12 seconds), a femtosecond even (to my knowlegde). So...that means that this massive matter/anti-matter splitting event was a one time thing for extent and purpose. WHAT THE FVCK caused it...and how is that not supernatural in and of itself??!
- while some would say that matter/anti-matter can literally form/split from "nothing"...others would not call it "nothing", they would call it "something" (even though it has zero mass and energy, according to our present understanding) and wonder where "it" came from. As you might see at this point...this kind of reasoning would generate an infinite recursion of exploratory thinking which could only terminate in something that is simply beyond human comprehension...well, "simply beyond human comprehension" is a plausable working definition for things like "the supernatural", "God", and so forth.
So I've tried to present a brief treaty on why the "supernatural" simply does exist and thus you and I and, indeed, all of us do have a purpose.
BTW...this is not an argument about whether or not the big bang happened or not...it is an argument about what caused it...how and why it happened. Certainly creation or whatever that brough matter in "being/existence" must have had a mechanism and fallout which could be studied according to natural law/science.
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