The more I read Plato's works....

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Originally posted by: PHiuR
eh...all of these thinkers are flawed.
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Arren't we all, and in the end, aren't we all, which serves as the basis for our various complexes?


ah fvk..they got to me.....

 
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PHiuR

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we are, that is why we must have good morals (where do we get it from???) and do what we feel is best for humanity.


i honestly believe that if I follow my inner "soul/id" thing in me and my beliefs which I believe are very righteous. I will lead a good life.
 
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Originally posted by: PHiuR
we are, that is why we must have good morals (where do we get it from???) and do what we feel is best for humanity.


i honestly believe that if I follow my inner "soul/id" thing in me and my beliefs which I believe are very righteous. I will lead a good life.
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same here...


I love one quote from 'the republic' which, i nthe bowls of it's meaning, is quite true:laugh:


P:And so, you and Homer and Simonides are agreed that justice is an art of theft; to be practisedthe good of friends and for the harm of enemies, that
was what you were saying?

C:No, certainly not that, though I do not now know what I did say; but I still stand by the latter words.
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Ain't it the truth:p
 
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Plato used Socrates as a mouthpiece in his middle/late dialogues (Republic, Meno).

Euthyphro, Apology were very good representations of Socrates.

I think many things Plato say are quite applicable to daily life.

Take the tripartite soul for example. The rational (brain), the spiritual (heart) and the appetetive (our desires) work together in making choices. You say that girl is hot and your hormones say get her in bed (appetetive), but your heart doesn't want a relationship and your brain says that you would rather get a girl that you plan to have something more meaningful with, and so you decide not to screw the girl.... I think that when Plato mentions justice in the human being, he makes an EXCELLENT point.

And the part about forms? Forms themselves may be quite weird, but I still believe that there is this abstract concept of a dog, a human, a bed, and that my bed, spike, and me are simply examples of those items. Would you rather believe Berkeley who says everything is mind dependent, and that there can be no inherent qualities/general concepts?
 
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PHiuR

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Originally posted by: swimscubasteve
socrates was the annoying prick. why do you think they sentenced him to death?
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truth..haha

he spoke too much :)
 
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Originally posted by: DLeRium
Plato used Socrates as a mouthpiece in his middle/late dialogues (Republic, Meno).

Euthyphro, Apology were very good representations of Socrates.

I think many things Plato say are quite applicable to daily life.

Take the tripartite soul for example. The rational (brain), the spiritual (heart) and the appetetive (our desires) work together in making choices. You say that girl is hot and your hormones say get her in bed (appetetive), but your heart doesn't want a relationship and your brain says that you would rather get a girl that you plan to have something more meaningful with, and so you decide not to screw the girl.... I think that when Plato mentions justice in the human being, he makes an EXCELLENT point.

And the part about forms? Forms themselves may be quite weird, but I still believe that there is this abstract concept of a dog, a human, a bed, and that my bed, spike, and me are simply examples of those items. Would you rather believe Berkeley who says everything is mind dependent, and that there can be no inherent qualities/general concepts?
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Well versed I see
 
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Well, haven taken 1.5 years of philosophy as an engineering major and with a parent who was a philosophy major has made me all to knowledgeable in this field ^^
 
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Originally posted by: DLeRium
If anything... Kant was an annoying prick.
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WORD! Took a whole seminar on "Transcendental Realism." The guy can't write a lick.

My degree is in philosophy. The courses I enjoyed most were logic and predicate logic, ancient philosophy could be cool sometimes, "hedonism" is especially interesting. Ethics course culminated in a 30 page report comparing and contrasting Kantian Ethics, hedonism and so on.

If anything, I took from the degree the ability to write and think in steps.

To be a life long philospher, I think does take some form of ego centrism to be sure, the "prickiness" you are referring to in the OP.
 
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