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John Connor

John Connor

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I don't even think in my lifetime I'll see humans living on the moon. For one, we have way too much shit occupying our incentive to go to the moon. Like wars and other shit. Namely fighting a culture who's hell bent on following Sharia law and wanting to spread it all over the world. Then you have the major monetary dilemma. And finally the technology. If we were to put major collaborative effort into it I suppose it's possible. It just seems to me the risk is too great for even a billionaire to undertake. I mean those pesky lawyers and all that crap.
 
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John Connor said:
I don't even think in my lifetime I'll see humans living on the moon. For one, we have way too much shit occupying our incentive to go to the moon. Like wars and other shit. Namely fighting a culture who's hell bent on following Sharia law and wanting to spread it all over the world. Then you have the major monetary dilemma. And finally the technology. If we were to put major collaborative effort into it I suppose it's possible. It just seems to me the risk is too great for even a billionaire to undertake. I mean those pesky lawyers and all that crap.
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What a Debbie Downer.
 
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Darwin333

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John Connor said:
I don't even think in my lifetime I'll see humans living on the moon. For one, we have way too much shit occupying our incentive to go to the moon. Like wars and other shit. Namely fighting a culture who's hell bent on following Sharia law and wanting to spread it all over the world. Then you have the major monetary dilemma. And finally the technology. If we were to put major collaborative effort into it I suppose it's possible. It just seems to me the risk is too great for even a billionaire to undertake. I mean those pesky lawyers and all that crap.
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Shrug, we were able to put men on the moon over half a century ago at a time that you would have been burned at the stake as a witch if you whipped out even a cheap Chinese knockoff smartphone. I'm pretty sure we could have men living on the moon with relative ease if we actually made it a priority. Unfortunately NASA gets one half of one cent of our tax dollar which isn't very much and that covers ALL of the stuff that they do, not just trying to get people into space. Despite that NASA still does some incredibly cool ass shit, just imagine what they could do if we gave them one whole penny of every tax dollar.

Personally I am all for blowing up way less brown people, cutting down the size of our military and spending that money on science. You know, stuff that will actually help our civilization...
 
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John Connor

John Connor

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IronWing said:
What a Debbie Downer.
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Well, given the fact I turn on my TV and hear racist this, racist that, you're a bigot, derka, derka Muhammad jihad. I think it's safe the say people have other priories in life. We had all better get our shit together. Mankind will never flourish with petty BS. But I'm afraid mother nature will press the restart button and the 7th extinction will occur. I think it's fare to say we've reached our apex and can be phased out now for something else to take over.
 
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with EVERY WEBSITE ON THE WEB reporting this story, you reeeeally had to link Fox News?

there's a hole on the moon surface. apparently it leads down to a very large canyon-like cave, which would be ideal as a moon base, as it's easier to create a contained atmosphere.

looks like we're going to the moon again.
 
Red Squirrel

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The issue with living on the moon is lack of atmosphere, and I don't think there is any way to create one due to the low gravity... or is there? Basically if we want to go live on another planet/moon we need to make that planet (or moon) self sustainable.

Though it would be plausible to build a research base on the moon though, basically like the ISS. Have an orbiting station and also a ground station. I guess there is not a lot of reason to do it though. One big part of the ISS is to study the Earth itself.
 
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tynopik

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Red Squirrel said:
The issue with living on the moon is lack of atmosphere
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The issue with living on the moon is the lack of money to be made

if it was profitable, all other problems could be overcome. But if it doesn't make money, no one's going to pay for it
 
Red Squirrel

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tynopik said:
The issue with living on the moon is the lack of money to be made

if it was profitable, all other problems could be overcome. But if it doesn't make money, no one's going to pay for it
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That's true too. Money is often the only motivator to progress sadly. Actually I could see it where some corporate conglomerate decides they want to strip mine the entire moon. Suddenly all the technology in the world will be there. But it would be patented so nobody else can use it.
 
John Connor

John Connor

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Red Squirrel said:
The issue with living on the moon is lack of atmosphere, and I don't think there is any way to create one due to the low gravity... or is there? Basically if we want to go live on another planet/moon we need to make that planet (or moon) self sustainable.
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I've read many years ago in Popular Science or Popular Mechanics that they thought of a way to use the moon's "dirt" to create oxygen. The article linked does mention that millions of years ago with the volcanic activity there was somewhat of an atmosphere. So with that I guess it's plausible to have an atmosphere, but I just don't think it would be very strong where you didn't need a suit. Not only that, but the temperature fluctuations are massive.

As of right now, the moon would just serve as a launching point to get to Mars.

 
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John Connor

John Connor

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dave_the_nerd said:
Yeah. You would assume that.

The worm was sitting there with its mouth open.
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I haven't watched Star Wars since my dad used to rent a VCR at the gas station in the 80's. LOL! In fact, Star Wars and Red Dawn were the first movies I ever seen.
 
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Crono

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John Connor said:
I don't even think in my lifetime I'll see humans living on the moon. For one, we have way too much shit occupying our incentive to go to the moon. Like wars and other shit. Namely fighting a culture who's hell bent on following Sharia law and wanting to spread it all over the world. Then you have the major monetary dilemma. And finally the technology. If we were to put major collaborative effort into it I suppose it's possible. It just seems to me the risk is too great for even a billionaire to undertake. I mean those pesky lawyers and all that crap.
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This post is full of shit :D
 
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whm1974

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I think it is possible and very likely that we can build a small research base on the Moon at least. All we need is a way to mine useful minerals and ship them to Earth profitably or for use in space for anything like a colony.
 
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Darwin333

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Red Squirrel said:
The issue with living on the moon is lack of atmosphere, and I don't think there is any way to create one due to the low gravity... or is there? Basically if we want to go live on another planet/moon we need to make that planet (or moon) self sustainable.

Though it would be plausible to build a research base on the moon though, basically like the ISS. Have an orbiting station and also a ground station. I guess there is not a lot of reason to do it though. One big part of the ISS is to study the Earth itself.
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Well if we could make fuel there it would be huge for interplanetary travel since we burn a shitton of fuel to get a relatively tiny amount of "stuff" into orbit from Earth. If we could find a way to make fuel on the moon we could send vastly larger ships at much higher speeds to wherever we want. Helium 3, which might be a good fuel for fusion reactors, is supposedly much more abundant on the moon too. Plus if we can find a way to use the resources on the moon we wouldn't need to resupply it nearly as often. And it could even be the first step to us building/assembling spacecraft outside of the atmosphere.

I'd imagine that the terraforming that you are talking about is centuries away even on ideal bodies.
 
Red Squirrel

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Darwin333 said:
Well if we could make fuel there it would be huge for interplanetary travel since we burn a shitton of fuel to get a relatively tiny amount of "stuff" into orbit from Earth. If we could find a way to make fuel on the moon we could send vastly larger ships at much higher speeds to wherever we want. Helium 3, which might be a good fuel for fusion reactors, is supposedly much more abundant on the moon too. Plus if we can find a way to use the resources on the moon we wouldn't need to resupply it nearly as often. And it could even be the first step to us building/assembling spacecraft outside of the atmosphere.

I'd imagine that the terraforming that you are talking about is centuries away even on ideal bodies.
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Yeah I could see that, it would basically be a gas station for interplanetary travel. :D Takes way less effort to get into orbit around the moon (from the moon) too so you could park a huge ship in orbit then have a bunch of smaller ships go down for fuel runs.
 
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Darwin333

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Red Squirrel said:
Yeah I could see that, it would basically be a gas station for interplanetary travel. :D Takes way less effort to get into orbit around the moon (from the moon) too so you could park a huge ship in orbit then have a bunch of smaller ships go down for fuel runs.
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I would imagine something more along the lines of a gas station orbiting the moon with gas tankers going back and forth from the moon fueling it. And "way less" is a huge understatement. If I get a chance I'll look up the amount of fuel it took to get the Apollo crews off the moon versus the amount it took to get them off the earth. I do know that the Apollo landers were really small versus the Saturn V which was like 350' tall with a 30' diameter and like 95% of that was fuel. So yeah, way way way way way less effort.
 
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DigDog said:
with EVERY WEBSITE ON THE WEB reporting this story, you reeeeally had to link Fox News?

there's a hole on the moon surface. apparently it leads down to a very large canyon-like cave, which would be ideal as a moon base, as it's easier to create a contained atmosphere.

looks like we're going to the moon again.
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Easily triggered?
 
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