The mess in Texas.

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Zebo

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You're way, way off base, probably deep in a bottle of something or other. Read Krugman- don't just read about Krugman.

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/

I read plenty of this hack nothing I said was untrue.

Just today this douche makes retard in spades, again. (it's almost daily)
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/20...ttempt-in-arizona/?src=twt&twt=NytimesKrugman

A Democratic Congresswoman has been shot in the head; another dozen were also shot.

We don’t have proof yet that this was political, but the odds are that it was. She’s been the target of violence before. And for those wondering why a Blue Dog Democrat, the kind Republicans might be able to work with, might be a target, the answer is that she’s a Democrat who survived what was otherwise a GOP sweep in Arizona, precisely because the Republicans nominated a Tea Party activist. (Her father says that “the whole Tea Party” was her enemy.) And yes, she was on Sarah Palin’s infamous “crosshairs” list.

Yeah libeling "The Tea Partiers" in the guise of economics commentary.

BTW - I only drink on Friday - have to run 6 days a week and Sat is my day off. Running and drinking don't mix just like pretending to be for working people while you crush them doesn't mix.
 
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finglobes

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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/07/opinion/07krugman.html?_r=1&hp

The Texas Omen

By PAUL KRUGMAN



How bad is the Texas deficit? Comparing budget crises among states is tricky, for technical reasons. Still, data from the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities suggest that the Texas budget gap is worse than New York’s, about as bad as California’s, but not quite up to New Jersey levels....

Among the states, Texas ranks near the bottom in education spending per pupil, while leading the nation in the percentage of residents without health insurance.






Texas leads in people without health insurance because illegals are always slipped in to the figures and Texas has one of highest illegal populations in nation. Health insurance is actually quite cheap in Texas compared to the big Blue states. Illegals also cost Texas 4.7 billion a year (9.4 billion for 2 years of course) after any tax contributions by illegals are accounted for.


California has a 500 billion unfunded tax liability while Texas has a only 20 billion.
 

Jhhnn

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Or American blue collar workers asset stripped by his globalization pimping or states with no room to maneuver being in debt up to eyeballs to his banker buddies or every American for generations being in debt to them for his pimping of deficit spending. Guy is a total corp/bankers shill and scumbag. They don't pay him $25,000-$50,000 a one hour speech for nothing you know.

I read plenty of this hack nothing I said was untrue.

Just today this douche makes retard in spades, again. (it's almost daily)
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/20...ttempt-in-arizona/?src=twt&twt=NytimesKrugman



Yeah libeling "The Tea Partiers" in the guise of economics commentary.

BTW - I only drink on Friday - have to run 6 days a week and Sat is my day off. Running and drinking don't mix just like pretending to be for working people while you crush them doesn't mix.

Your second post in no way supports the first, and Krugman offers that he usually doesn't delve into the realm of the purely political.
 

Nebor

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For what it is worth....

http://www.ehow.com/facts_7403923_can-joined-after-west-point.html

West Point is the United States Army's military academy. It is a highly competitive school where cadets simultaneously earn college degrees and train to be commissioned as Army officers when they graduate. However, it is possible, though highly unlikely, that you can be commissioned into the Marine Corps after graduating from West Point.

Agree to unlikely but possible. No matter what branch you serve in, your commission comes from the authority of the President of the United States. On rare occassion cadets are allowed to commission into other branches of service, almost always in a swap with another academy.
 

ElFenix

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Interesting...
So the land appraisers in Texas enter your house look at your furnishes worth thousands of dollars, look at your plasma TV worth $1-2k, looks at your fine China sets, your $5,000+ Alienware computer and add that to the appraised value of your house? That's some fooked up crap if what you say is true.
no, they don't. i don't know whether he heard his friend wrong or what, but property taxes for individuals are only on land and improvements.

we do have business personal property taxes. that used to result in all the car dealers being closed over new years because they shipped all their inventory out of the county to one with a lower tax rate.
 
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Wreckem

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First proposed budget is out. No new taxes, and they are refusing to tap into the rainy day fund. Its gonna be a blood bath of a legislative session.

All which means an 8% cut to to higher ed, including shuttering of 3 jucos and chopping the number of Texas grants in half. Most universities are already on hiring freezes, and most are now talking about furloughs or out right layoffs. And lets not forget public schools, under the proposal they are going to lose out of $5billion they are supposed to get under current laws. The proposal also has a massive 30% cut to Medicaid.

In addition, the proposal also includes shuttering multiple TDCJ units(prisons/juvenile facilities). All told under the current proposal there would be 10,000 state jobs lost.
 

child of wonder

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First proposed budget is out. No new taxes, and they are refusing to tap into the rainy day fund. Its gonna be a blood bath of a legislative session.

All which means an 8% cut to to higher ed, including shuttering of 3 jucos and chopping the number of Texas grants in half. Most universities are already on hiring freezes, and most are now talking about furloughs or out right layoffs. And lets not forget public schools, under the proposal they are going to lose out of $5billion they are supposed to get under current laws. The proposal also has a massive 30% cut to Medicaid.

In addition, the proposal also includes shuttering multiple TDCJ units(prisons/juvenile facilities). All told under the current proposal there would be 10,000 state jobs lost.

Minnesota's new Republican majority legislature is also proposing slashing funding to higher education and public schools.

Now, I know throwing money at education is no guarantee of improving it, but I fail to see how cutting funding so dramatically and suddenly can end in anything but disaster. Plus, while all these education cuts are supposed to happen they propose a simultaneous corporate tax reduction.
 

spacejamz

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First proposed budget is out. No new taxes, and they are refusing to tap into the rainy day fund. Its gonna be a blood bath of a legislative session.

All which means an 8% cut to to higher ed, including shuttering of 3 jucos and chopping the number of Texas grants in half. Most universities are already on hiring freezes, and most are now talking about furloughs or out right layoffs. And lets not forget public schools, under the proposal they are going to lose out of $5billion they are supposed to get under current laws. The proposal also has a massive 30% cut to Medicaid.

In addition, the proposal also includes shuttering multiple TDCJ units(prisons/juvenile facilities). All told under the current proposal there would be 10,000 state jobs lost.

The sooner states realize how much of drain paying all of the associated costs for schooling, hospital services and jail that illegal aliens are costing border states, the better off they will be.

It is disgusting how much tax payers are footing the bill for this while we get deeper and deeper in the red....
 

Throckmorton

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First proposed budget is out. No new taxes, and they are refusing to tap into the rainy day fund. Its gonna be a blood bath of a legislative session.

All which means an 8% cut to to higher ed, including shuttering of 3 jucos and chopping the number of Texas grants in half. Most universities are already on hiring freezes, and most are now talking about furloughs or out right layoffs. And lets not forget public schools, under the proposal they are going to lose out of $5billion they are supposed to get under current laws. The proposal also has a massive 30% cut to Medicaid.

In addition, the proposal also includes shuttering multiple TDCJ units(prisons/juvenile facilities). All told under the current proposal there would be 10,000 state jobs lost.

It makes no sense to not use the rainy day fund. That's what it's for... a rainy day. I guess it's that conservative mantra that cutting jobs is good and putting money into the economy is bad!
 

HumblePie

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Interesting...
So the land appraisers in Texas enter your house look at your furnishes worth thousands of dollars, look at your plasma TV worth $1-2k, looks at your fine China sets, your $5,000+ Alienware computer and add that to the appraised value of your house? That's some fooked up crap if what you say is true.

No, they don't look at the furnishing, just the buildings. So if you bought some 14'x14' outdoor shed to hold some tools in your backyard for $200 from homedepot, expect your tax rates to go up quite a bit. Because it is a piece of property on the land. Redo your sewer lines, re-tile, re-carpet, re- any renovation to the structure of any building on the property and you have to prove that the value of the property was no increased by that. You'd be surprised at what some people I know have been screwed over on because they didn't fight back.
 

Nebor

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First proposed budget is out. No new taxes, and they are refusing to tap into the rainy day fund. Its gonna be a blood bath of a legislative session.

All which means an 8% cut to to higher ed, including shuttering of 3 jucos and chopping the number of Texas grants in half. Most universities are already on hiring freezes, and most are now talking about furloughs or out right layoffs. And lets not forget public schools, under the proposal they are going to lose out of $5billion they are supposed to get under current laws. The proposal also has a massive 30% cut to Medicaid.

In addition, the proposal also includes shuttering multiple TDCJ units(prisons/juvenile facilities). All told under the current proposal there would be 10,000 state jobs lost.

Sounds good. Texas already has a great public university system, so it can afford to slip a few notches if necessary. And Texas incarcerates a huge percentage of it's population, so shutting down some facilities and putting those people back on the street is a good thing too. Worst case scenario, a few of them get shot in the street because they're hardened, repeat offenders.

At least it's not feel good, borrow more crap like most states are trying to pedal.
 

Wreckem

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Sounds good. Texas already has a great public university system, so it can afford to slip a few notches if necessary. And Texas incarcerates a huge percentage of it's population, so shutting down some facilities and putting those people back on the street is a good thing too. Worst case scenario, a few of them get shot in the street because they're hardened, repeat offenders.

At least it's not feel good, borrow more crap like most states are trying to pedal.

Outside UT and A&M, Texas public higher education is a joke.

Furthermore Texas is a joke in every single measurable metric. We were already close to the bottom compared to other states, now we will be at the bottom. Texas public education is going to be short $9.8billion over two years under this budget.

Why hello there last place in education.

And why are we making $31billion in cuts over 2 years when Gov. Goodhair et al say we are going to be short $15billion?

BTW, Texas ranks 49th in revenue raised per capita and 50th in revenue spent per capita.
 
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sandorski

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It makes no sense to not use the rainy day fund. That's what it's for... a rainy day. I guess it's that conservative mantra that cutting jobs is good and putting money into the economy is bad!

It's Texas, they take everything Literally. Earth created in 6 days, Evolution is just a theory, and Rainy Day Funds are to provide for Flood Relief.
 

Nebor

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Outside UT and A&M, Texas public higher education is a joke.

Furthermore Texas is a joke in every single measurable metric. We were already close to the bottom compared to other states, now we will be at the bottom. Texas public education is going to be short $9.8billion over two years under this budget.

Why hello there last place in education.

And why are we making $31billion in cuts over 2 years when Gov. Goodhair et al say we are going to be short $15billion?

BTW, Texas ranks 49th in revenue raised per capita and 50th in revenue spent per capita.

As a product of the UT system (undergrad & post grad) it seemed fine to me.

Texas is doing well in several measurable metrics. The number of firearms per capita, and church per square mile are fairly competitive on a national scale.

Everyone I know in Texas, at various places on the educational and socioeconomic scale are doing ok. They have places to live, cars to drive and even some (variable) disposable income. The same can't be said for people I know out west and in the Northeast (several unemployed and underemployed.) Texas is the land of opportunity. Quit crying and leave if you think it's so terrible.
 

Wreckem

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As a product of the UT system (undergrad & post grad) it seemed fine to me.

Texas is doing well in several measurable metrics. The number of firearms per capita, and church per square mile are fairly competitive on a national scale.

Everyone I know in Texas, at various places on the educational and socioeconomic scale are doing ok. They have places to live, cars to drive and even some (variable) disposable income. The same can't be said for people I know out west and in the Northeast (several unemployed and underemployed.) Texas is the land of opportunity. Quit crying and leave if you think it's so terrible.

Texas is near last, or last in every measurable public education metric. As well as every health metric.

Texans get very little return on what very little we pay.

Yeah 30% cuts to Medicad, and 40% cuts to MHMR are the way to solve things.

Im fine all fine for cutting higher ed. Higher ed in Texas has a lot of waste, but other things, like shorting public education by $10billion, cutting healthcare services to children and to the poor from already dead last in per capita spending is wrong.
 
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Wreckem

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It's Texas, they take everything Literally. Earth created in 6 days, Evolution is just a theory, and Rainy Day Funds are to provide for Flood Relief.

I honestly do not know why we have a rainy day fund if we never ever intend to use it.
 

Nebor

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Texas is near last, or last in every measurable public education metric. As well as every health metric.

Texans get very little return on what very little we pay.

Yeah 30% cuts to Medicad, and 40% cuts to MHMR are the way to solve things.

Im fine all fine for cutting higher ed. Higher ed in Texas has a lot of waste, but other things, like shorting public education by $10billion, cutting healthcare services to children and to the poor from already dead last in per capita spending is wrong.

I like to think it'll cause an exodus of the poor and children into neighboring welfare states like New Mexico, Oklahoma or Louisiana. Let their tax big spend big philosophy be rewarded with all those they want to save. And with those undesirables gone, the leftover school budget should be sufficient to educate the remaining youth. Besides, with the voucher system and Texas' relatively high income compared to cost of living, a lot of people should be able to send their kids to private school.

I think you're going to have a hard time convincing Texans that slashing traditional welfare programs is a bad idea.
 

Nebor

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I honestly do not know why we have a rainy day fund if we never ever intend to use it.

When a massive nationwide power outage or series of terrorist attacks or zombie apocalypse occurs and society begins to break down, the federal government collapses and the dollar is worthless, we'll be glad we saved that rainy day fund for when we needed it.
 

Patranus

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Looks like Texas just cut 5 billion without touching the 10 billion dollar rainy day fund.

Good work guys.
 

Throckmorton

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When a massive nationwide power outage or series of terrorist attacks or zombie apocalypse occurs and society begins to break down, the federal government collapses and the dollar is worthless, we'll be glad we saved that rainy day fund for when we needed it.

If the federal government collapses the rainy day fund full of dollars won't be worth anything.
 

ElFenix

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eh, only reason this thing was put together is because the law requires them to have a budget proposal by this date. i'm sure this is far from the actual budget that will be passed.
 

Nebor

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If the federal government collapses the rainy day fund full of dollars won't be worth anything.

There is a bill currently working it's way through the Texas House of Representatives seeking to convert the rainy day fund into gold through Gold Line. This will both secure it's value and keep it from being spent frivolously on things like health care or education.
 

sandorski

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There is a bill currently working it's way through the Texas House of Representatives seeking to convert the rainy day fund into gold through Gold Line. This will both secure it's value and keep it from being spent frivolously on things like health care or education.

O'rly? If that goes through, I'm predicting much Fail. Especially considering the reluctance to even use the Fund during these Rainy Days.

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