The media lies about the number of school shootings.

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UNCjigga

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No, I think they are spot on with that. I'm sure we read different sources. Can you tell me the benefits of not having border security when you have enemies and parasitic people near by? You don't think there is benefit to vetting whom we allow in our country to stay and vote?

Then why not deploy the resources necessary to vet the steady flow of documented and undocumented immigrants we're accustomed to? Setup a guest worker program so good people can pay our fees and taxes for the right to work here, rather than pay drug cartels and human traffickers to hitch a ride?

Hell, deploy one percent of all the resources spent in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya etc. to El Salvador, Honduras and Guatemala to stabilize those countries and stem the tide of asylum seekers.

The problem is you guys will never consider a humanitarian solution, because you've already dehumanized undocumented immigrants. "Parisitic people"?
 
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Vic

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Wait.. the number of school shootings is important? Because I guess one or two murdered kids are okay, it's gonna have take a few more before we give a shit? How many more before we're self-aware enough to start questioning if it could have been our own kids?
 

Thebobo

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The fact that you think Shapiro is a Nazi shows that you are functionally retarded.

No I didn't say I thought he was a Nazi I said he is a little Nazi turd. Or as others have called him, "The Jew Who Helps Other Jews Onto The Train.”
 
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Bitek

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So what is the acceptable number of shootings?


I'm going with zero.
 

FaaR

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The condensed is that the media reported 18 school shootings over a 45 day period, truth is there were three.

#fakenews
When your main argument is that "there were really only three school shootings in a month and a half", then you've already lost, pal. Don't you realize this yourself, are you really so ideologically blind?

My country's population may be only ~1/30th of the U.S., but you know the number of school mass shootings we've had? Zero. In all of history! Hmm, I wonder why... *rolleyes*
 

MooseNSquirrel

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This whole thread is some lame attempt to discredit "the media" and use vague hand wavey motions to claim there some grsnd conspiracy to...who knows.

Tell us Ben Shapiro, what exactly would be the acceptable nunber of school shootings?

@SlowSpider - you failed to back up your claim, used a poor source as evidence, and generally wasted everyones time with this.
 

Juiblex

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I would have to agree with the o.p. the same thing occurs with alcohol related accidents. If someone who had a drink was at a stop light and was rear ended by someone completely sober. They say its an alcohol related accident. Even though alcohol was not a factor in the accident. The media and madd jump in it and purposely inflate the dangers of alcohol behind the wheel which is dishonest.

If we want to report how dangerous alcohol is while driving then report the stats when alcohol was related in the cause of the accident.

If the media wants to report how many school shootings are going on they need to remove suicide and other non related factors and report the number of incidents where people are firing on random students. That's what a school shooting is.
 
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fskimospy

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I would have to agree with the o.p. the same thing occurs with alcohol related accidents. If someone who had a drink was at a stop light and was rear ended by someone completely sober. They say its an alcohol related accident. Even though alcohol was not a factor in the accident. The media and madd jump in it and purposely inflate the dangers of alcohol behind the wheel which is dishonest.

If we want to report how dangerous alcohol is while driving then report the stats when alcohol was related in the cause of the accident.

If the media wants to report how many school shootings are going on they need to remove suicide and other non related factors and report the number of incidents where people are firing on random students. That's what a school shooting is.

Why should the media go by a definition you just made up in your head?
 

Commodus

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I would have to agree with the o.p. the same thing occurs with alcohol related accidents. If someone who had a drink was at a stop light and was rear ended by someone completely sober. They say its an alcohol related accident. Even though alcohol was not a factor in the accident. The media and madd jump in it and purposely inflate the dangers of alcohol behind the wheel which is dishonest.

If we want to report how dangerous alcohol is while driving then report the stats when alcohol was related in the cause of the accident.

If the media wants to report how many school shootings are going on they need to remove suicide and other non related factors and report the number of incidents where people are firing on random students. That's what a school shooting is.

What the hell?

The media doesn't inflate the danger of alcohol while driving. If you're inebriated behind the wheel, you're a threat to everyone on the road whether or not you've caused an accident.

On the plus side, your apologist attitude toward drunk driving just bolstered the case for tighter gun control. The issue isn't the raw number of school shootings; it's that these shootings happen with a frequency you don't see in virtually any other country, and that the mere threat of it through loose gun regulation is a problem.
 

SlowSpyder

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When your main argument is that "there were really only three school shootings in a month and a half", then you've already lost, pal. Don't you realize this yourself, are you really so ideologically blind?

My country's population may be only ~1/30th of the U.S., but you know the number of school mass shootings we've had? Zero. In all of history! Hmm, I wonder why... *rolleyes*


That isn't the argument, the argument is that the media inflates the headlines and numbers for clicks and an agenda. You won't find me arguing that any school shootings are acceptable, that was never my argument. You're fighting a shadow, try and stay with the conversation.
 

DigDog

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School shootings in Italy last year: 0
School shootings in the UK last year: 0
(We did have 1 in Scotland 12 years ago)
 

SlowSpyder

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School shootings in Italy last year: 0
School shootings in the UK last year: 0
(We did have 1 in Scotland 12 years ago)


Yes, there are real school shootings in America, and that is a problem that needs to be addressed. That still doesn't make three the same as 18, the media lying for a leftist agenda. No matter how much you guys dance around the entire point this thread was created for, it still exists and the fake news is caught lying here.
 

feralkid

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It...is...alive.


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compcons

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Roughly 1/1/18 - 2/15/18. The number came from Everytown for Gun Safety, and the media ran with it.

Two were suicides, one in a parking lot one was a man in a school bathroom. How he explains is: Four times a gun was fired through a windows - A gun shot on January 4th went through a highschool window, no injuries. January 10th a shot broke a window at "a California university class window, no injuries, January 10th a bullet went through a wall at a TX criminal justice school, no injuries, on January 15th a bullet went through a dorm room, no injuries, January 25th a Mobile, AL student fired a gun on campus, no injuries, January 26th shots fired in a parking lot, no injuries. On February 5th a 3rd grader pulled the trigger on a cops gun. On Feb 8th a shot was fired in Metropolitan High School, no injuries. He has more and breaks down the shootings where there was an injury other than the shooter, there were three incidents of such.

In a thread about the media being dishonest about shootings, your examples of "not shootings" include some on campus that may not have been in a building but must necessarily be on school grounds (unless it was a sniper rifle that shot through campus windows or dorm room walls). Also situations that were clearly in a school but no one was hurt. So your 3 is more like 6 or maybe 8. But we would hate to have media outlets skewing their results.

So are you also going to start a thread about people with a rightist agenda who lie to make situations seem better than they are?
 
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