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Lots of anger & angst out there, is it a valid reason to off yourself or to go the suicide bomb martyr route?
The Martyr/Politically motivated suicide thread
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It's clearly obvious 49% of the Country is struggling to express their dismay of the downfall of the U.S.
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I don't think it's much of a reach from justifing your own suicide to becoming a suicide bomber, suicide is an incredibly selfish act...
You can't be serious!
Please tell me you're not comparing what this young man did (commit suicide) with a suicide bomber (murder while committing suicide)
So you're saying, those who kill themselves are just one step away from killing others? In that case, it's probably a good thing that anyone who committed suicide did so.
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CaptnKirk
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Not of our culture, but we do have our shares of McVeighs and Kaczynskis.
Their culture seems to be willing by whatever means to kill themselves in stating their convictions.
Since the general population of those countries involved have no access to the advanced weapons
that their opponents have (eg. aircract, tanks, and other more advanced weaponry than rocks to express
their greviences) they use what ever means availabe to them to strike.
They are really big into centuries long blood and tribal fueds, so the Martyrdom and Honor thing to them is their version of our 'God and Country'.
You have to remember that the Middle East - as now defined, has existed for little more than the age of most participants on this forum. Their countries and territories are relatively new - with roots back to very war filled historical times filled with conquest and crusades.
Anyone want to specify a time when that region even came close to cultural stability ?
Perhaps in the age of the Pharoes - it's certified turbulent since then.
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Yeah if you are out of your Gourde. It's one thing to tweak the ears of those who have different views in stupid forums like this, it's totally another thing to let it bother you in real life.
Hell I even thought the Goodbye threads by Heartsurgeon and Crimson in this forum were a little bit to melodramatic .
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Suicide is an act of violence against yourself & is a selfish act, to me, it's not much of a stretch to see the same rationalle used to kill others...
Anyone who kills themsleves or others over this election obviously does not understand what the USA is about. If you do not like the direction of the country you can work with others to make a change at the ballot box. I am not just talking about President either. There are plenty of local and state elections where you can have an impact. You Senators and Congressman are very important. If you kill yourself or commit an act of violence over an election you are a moron, and have done nothing to further your cause.
CaptnKirk
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How does the end result differ from that of the actions of those who became tower snipers,
the kids in Columbine, or the McDonnalds in San Ysidro ? If they hadden'd had the chance
arrest opportunity of capturing the sinpers around Washington, that would have been a shootout.
In these cases those who perpertrated the event did so knowing that they were going down.
The wanted the 'Splash' of Infamy - and took enough down at the time to make it qualify.
Suicide Bomber Vs. Door Gunner on a Bread Truck - Terrorist solution and sealed fate.
the kids in Columbine, or the McDonnalds in San Ysidro ? If they hadden'd had the chance
arrest opportunity of capturing the sinpers around Washington, that would have been a shootout.
In these cases those who perpertrated the event did so knowing that they were going down.
The wanted the 'Splash' of Infamy - and took enough down at the time to make it qualify.
Suicide Bomber Vs. Door Gunner on a Bread Truck - Terrorist solution and sealed fate.
Yes it is odd that you think that this needs to be asked.
There are lots of emotionally unstable people and true believers on both sides. Since progressives are "right brain" people, I suppose this kind of response might be more likely.
And lots of us think W is a top rep for satan, but we will deal with it and life in this great country will go on.
In 4 years, after we see what hell has wrought, we will simply send the "minions of evil" packing.
There are lots of emotionally unstable people and true believers on both sides. Since progressives are "right brain" people, I suppose this kind of response might be more likely.
And lots of us think W is a top rep for satan, but we will deal with it and life in this great country will go on.
In 4 years, after we see what hell has wrought, we will simply send the "minions of evil" packing.
I don't agree at all. Of course, I've been unfortunate enough to twice have to live thru someone close to me committing suicide...I may me just a tad biased when I say you're bonkers.
To answer your original question, no, imo, politics are not a sufficient reason to commit suicide. The only time I question if suicide is an acceptable option is when there is an incurable, painful disease involved.
As for the 'suicide bomber' part of your question, my answer would be absolutely not. Correct me if I'm wrong, however, I believe the suicide bombings are more religious in nature, not political.
Red Dawn
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Europe survived the Plague, surviving the Dub should be a walk in the park. Besides, if you are lucky enough to be from a Blue State insulated from the Dub and his supporters like Massachusetts or California you'd hardly even notice his influence unless you watch the news.
This young man obviously could not cope with reality. America makes these political changes every 4 years since our country's birth. If you would rather take your own life instead of working to make changes in the future something is very wrong or he was a strong willed person.
But let's think about what was going through this mans mind. He would rather be dead, than accept what the majority of American has decided. If this is the only way for people to cope with not getting their way, we should allow and respect their wishes. Open the gates to ground zero, let them in, give them the bullets, and let them create a new Mecca in the US. We could even put up a scoreboard to keep tally of these dedicated people.
Please foreword this idea to the Dan Rathers, Mike Moores, George Soros and all the others that can not accept the majority of American's will. All of the celebrities that threatened to leave the USA if President Bush won now have another option. What a country, if you look hard enough, there always seems to be alturnatives. We can even call them martyrs if that would make the happy.
But let's think about what was going through this mans mind. He would rather be dead, than accept what the majority of American has decided. If this is the only way for people to cope with not getting their way, we should allow and respect their wishes. Open the gates to ground zero, let them in, give them the bullets, and let them create a new Mecca in the US. We could even put up a scoreboard to keep tally of these dedicated people.
Please foreword this idea to the Dan Rathers, Mike Moores, George Soros and all the others that can not accept the majority of American's will. All of the celebrities that threatened to leave the USA if President Bush won now have another option. What a country, if you look hard enough, there always seems to be alturnatives. We can even call them martyrs if that would make the happy.
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Guess I'm a little concerned because suicides of younger people seem to trigger more suicides, like the rashes of college suicides that make the national press...
I wonder if there are any we're not aware of that haven't hit the mainstream media?
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