"The Lord Giveth and he taketh away."

[Demon-Xanth]

Originally posted by: FeuerFrei
Acknowledges God is sovereign and can do as he wills. He always has a reason. It means you trust his infinite wisdom.

We all know that drunk drivers are bad. But so are drunk back seat drivers if they're persuasive.
"Turn left."
"Those are trees."
"Trust me."
--Dimitri Martin

 

[Miramonti]

Its meant to give us hope, that trolls and flamebaiters can be around to annoy one day, but by His sovereignty can rid them from our lives the next.

Personally I'll keep the faith.

 

[MrWizzard]

Originally posted by: compuwiz1

Originally posted by: FeuerFrei
Acknowledges God is sovereign and can do as he wills. He always has a reason. It means you trust his infinite wisdom.

Sounds like what sheep would do, no?

That comparison is made several times in the bible. Nothing new.

 

[MrWizzard]

Originally posted by: HotChic

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: KLin

13 Now on the day when his sons and his daughters were eating and drinking wine in their oldest brother?s house,
14 a messenger came to Job and said, ?The oxen were plowing and the donkeys feeding beside them,
15 and the Sabeans attacked and took them. They also slew the servants with the edge of the sword, and I alone have escaped to tell you.?
16 While he was still speaking, another also came and said, ?The fire of God fell from heaven and burned up the sheep and the servants and consumed them, and I alone have escaped to tell you.?
17 While he was still speaking, another also came and said, ?The Chaldeans formed three bands and made a raid on the camels and took them and slew the servants with the edge of the sword, and I alone have escaped to tell you.?
18 While he was still speaking, another also came and said, ?Your sons and your daughters were eating and drinking wine in their oldest brother?s house,
19 and behold, a great wind came from across the wilderness and struck the four corners of the house, and it fell on the young people and they died, and I alone have escaped to tell you.?
20 Then Job arose and tore his robe and shaved his head, and he fell to the ground and worshiped.
21 He said,
?Naked I came from my mother?s womb,
And naked I shall return there.
The LORD gave and the LORD has taken away.
Blessed be the name of the LORD.?
22 Through all this Job did not sin nor did he blame God.

Job 1:13-22

Heh, the archetypal battered wife.

Actually, his wife was fine.

His wife was a bad woman, she doesn't help matters later in the story, she sides with Satan in a way.

Edit: By fine you mean she didn't die right.....?

 

[FeuerFrei]

Originally posted by: compuwiz1

Originally posted by: FeuerFrei
Acknowledges God is sovereign and can do as he wills. He always has a reason. It means you trust his infinite wisdom.

Sounds like what sheep would do, no?

Trusting someone? mkay
Recognizing that you aren't fully in control? mkay

 

[FeuerFrei]

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth

Originally posted by: FeuerFrei
Acknowledges God is sovereign and can do as he wills. He always has a reason. It means you trust his infinite wisdom.

We all know that drunk drivers are bad. But so are drunk back seat drivers if they're persuasive.
"Turn left."
"Those are trees."
"Trust me."
--Dimitri Martin

I think you are implying that God is drunk. nice.

 

[Golgatha]

It simply means everything is God's property, and thus he has the right to give it and take it away. We are born with nothing except life, and it is God's prerogative to take that as well.

 

[Golgatha]

Originally posted by: MrWizzard

Originally posted by: compuwiz1

Originally posted by: FeuerFrei
Acknowledges God is sovereign and can do as he wills. He always has a reason. It means you trust his infinite wisdom.

Sounds like what sheep would do, no?

That comparison is made several times in the bible. Nothing new.

And God is portrayed as the good shepard. A good shepard keeps his flock from danger. Only when we (free will) do our own thing (sin) do we find ourselves outside of God's will and in trouble.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: Golgatha

Originally posted by: MrWizzard

Originally posted by: compuwiz1

Originally posted by: FeuerFrei
Acknowledges God is sovereign and can do as he wills. He always has a reason. It means you trust his infinite wisdom.

Sounds like what sheep would do, no?

That comparison is made several times in the bible. Nothing new.

And God is portrayed as the good shepard. A good shepard keeps his flock from danger. Only when we (free will) do our own thing (sin) do we find ourselves outside of God's will and in trouble.

I would not make that statement unless I were prepared to answer why bad things happen to good people. There are very devout people who experience hardship in life, and some very evil people who are not.

 

[KoolAidKid]

FWIW, an interpretation from a non-Christian.

Verse: The LORD gave and the LORD has taken away.
Interpretation: God can do whatever he wants.

Verse: Blessed be the name of the LORD.
Interpretation: The Lord is blessed to have that power.

Verse: Through all this Job did not sin nor did he blame God.
Interpretation: Don't blame God for his seemingly arbitrary acts.

 

[GeneValgene]

Originally posted by: Golgatha

Originally posted by: MrWizzard

Originally posted by: compuwiz1

Originally posted by: FeuerFrei
Acknowledges God is sovereign and can do as he wills. He always has a reason. It means you trust his infinite wisdom.

Sounds like what sheep would do, no?

That comparison is made several times in the bible. Nothing new.

And God is portrayed as the good shepard. A good shepard keeps his flock from danger. Only when we (free will) do our own thing (sin) do we find ourselves outside of God's will and in trouble.

not always true. john the baptist got his head chopped off. job got pwned pretty bad. stephen was stoned. peter got nailed to a cross (according to tradition). etc. etc.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: HotChic

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: KLin

13 Now on the day when his sons and his daughters were eating and drinking wine in their oldest brother?s house,
14 a messenger came to Job and said, ?The oxen were plowing and the donkeys feeding beside them,
15 and the Sabeans attacked and took them. They also slew the servants with the edge of the sword, and I alone have escaped to tell you.?
16 While he was still speaking, another also came and said, ?The fire of God fell from heaven and burned up the sheep and the servants and consumed them, and I alone have escaped to tell you.?
17 While he was still speaking, another also came and said, ?The Chaldeans formed three bands and made a raid on the camels and took them and slew the servants with the edge of the sword, and I alone have escaped to tell you.?
18 While he was still speaking, another also came and said, ?Your sons and your daughters were eating and drinking wine in their oldest brother?s house,
19 and behold, a great wind came from across the wilderness and struck the four corners of the house, and it fell on the young people and they died, and I alone have escaped to tell you.?
20 Then Job arose and tore his robe and shaved his head, and he fell to the ground and worshiped.
21 He said,
?Naked I came from my mother?s womb,
And naked I shall return there.
The LORD gave and the LORD has taken away.
Blessed be the name of the LORD.?
22 Through all this Job did not sin nor did he blame God.

Job 1:13-22

Heh, the archetypal battered wife.

Actually, his wife was fine.

I was referring to Job. Sorry for the confusion.

 

[uhohs]

Originally posted by: akubi
it's the biblical version of the standard disclaimer.
when things are good it's thanks to god, but when the ****** hits the fan, it ain't his fault.

learn2read
lol

 

[Wuffsunie]

Originally posted by: effowe
Just as God gave you everything you have, you still need to be grateful for it because it can all be gone in an instant at his whim, was my understanding of it.

Pretty much. This is why I don't like christian religion at all. If you look over most of the events in the bible that involve direct interaction with man and God, God comes off as a colossal wanker.

Look at the whole book of Job. Wrecks a guy's life to prove a point to Satan. Keeps Satan around and permits him to torment mankind (though it can be argued that that's a necessary function). Revelations says he'll do pretty much everything he can to drive the undecided to the Antichrist. Commit finite acts against him, be damned for all time. Things like that.

 

[uhohs]

Originally posted by: FeuerFrei

Originally posted by: compuwiz1

Originally posted by: FeuerFrei
Acknowledges God is sovereign and can do as he wills. He always has a reason. It means you trust his infinite wisdom.

Sounds like what sheep would do, no?

Trusting someone? mkay
Recognizing that you aren't fully in control? mkay

WAIT, WE'RE ALL SHEEP IN SOME WAY? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING??

OH MY.

 

[HannibalX]

I love biblical comentary by folks who haven't even read it.