The lies about Oil and the games we play

Jarhead

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It is funny how oil is often found at depths way below any possible fossil deposits, and how there is never any evidence of strata processes that are found at the surface. Not to say that some oil isn't found near the surface, but there are some really vast deposits very deep within the earth.

A group of scientists recently got together, and calculated all the vegitation/animals that has existed over millions of years on the earths surface, and just what we pumped out so far, we would have ran out in the 1960's. There is a huge biomass gap, from what we have pumped out just so far, compared to all the biomass on earth, that there ever was.

It is all pretty interesting, once you start looking at the subject.


The theory underlying how oil is formed at such enormous depths in the mantle of the earth is not central to this report, because the Russians have already proved its point of origin in absolute drilling terms more than 300 times. Those interested in the exact process should research the archives, where there are more than two hundred Russian papers on the subject.

http://www.vialls.com/wecontrolamerica/peakoil.html


What the researchers found when they analyzed the oil field with time lapse 3-D seismic imaging is that there was an unexplained deep fault in the bottom corner of the computer scan, which showed oil gushing in from a previously unknown deep source and migrating up through the rock to replenish the existing supply.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/archives/peak_oil/index.htm


Production ... was supposed to have declined years ago. And for a while, it behaved like any normal field: Following its 1973 discovery, Eugene Island 330's output peaked at about 15,000 barrels a day. By 1989, production had slowed to about 4,000 barrels a day.

Then suddenly... The field, is now producing 13,000 barrels a day, and probable reserves have rocketed to more than 400 million barrels from 60 million. Stranger still, scientists studying the field say the crude coming out of the pipe is of a geological age quite different from the oil that gushed 10 years ago.

http://www.oralchelation.com/faq/wsj4.htm


RIYADH, 7 April 2005 ? Saudi Arabia might manage to increase its crude reserves by 200 billion barrels to its existing 261 billion barrels, Minister of Petroleum and Mineral Resources Ali Al-Naimi was quoted by the Saudi Press Agency as saying.
http://www.arabnews.com/?page=1&sec...&d=7&m=4&y=2005


... the increasingly greater proven oil reserves being reported by petroleum majors operating in Russia; .... Russia's proven oil supply is likely to end up tripling to about 180 billion barrels, making it the second largest source of petroleum in the world. One quoted analyst believes that Russia's hydrocarbon (oil and natural gas) deposits may eventually prove to be 50% greater than those of Saudi Arabia.
http://www.powerpolitics.org/archives/000004.html


Largely unexplored, and almost completely unexploited...No one knows how much hydrocarbon wealth lies beneath central Asia's deserts, but most of the world's major oil companies are already prospecting there. "The deposits are huge," said a diplomat from the region. Kazakhstan alone may have more oil than Saudi Arabia.
http://www.propagandamatrix.com/war...key_to_oil.html


A great interview of a couple of fellas that have been trying to speak out and let folks know of the "fossil lies":
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2005/10/12.html
 

Kadarin

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It would be a good thing if true. It would be difficult to sustain a technological civilization without oil.
 

Linflas

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Originally posted by: mugs
This thread will be interesting

Why? There is actually debate and research being done in the geologic sciences as to whether oil is strictly fossil based or if there is a deep earth component involved as well. When I was a kid most science texts presented Wegener's theories as way out when in fact research by the 1950's was focusing on plate tectonics and continental drift as one of the building blocks of geology. We learn amazing things and overturn previously unquestionable assumptions all the time.
 

ThisIsMatt

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Oil lubricates the tectonic plates...we're pumping it all out, causing friction in the plates, causing the earthquakes :(
 

apologetic

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Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
Oil lubricates the tectonic plates...we're pumping it all out, causing friction in the plates, causing the earthquakes :(

Quick everybody!!! Throw oil into the ocean before we seize up!!!
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: apologetic
Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
Oil lubricates the tectonic plates...we're pumping it all out, causing friction in the plates, causing the earthquakes :(
Quick everybody!!! Throw oil into the ocean before we seize up!!!
"Oil found to keep baby seals soft, supple." :p

ZV
 

mercanucaribe

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Great, pseudoscience. Think about whose interests it's in to make you believe that oil is endless.

Why aren't there any geologists in this forum?
 

Jarhead

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Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Great, pseudoscience. Think about whose interests it's in to make you believe that oil is endless.

Why aren't there any geologists in this forum?


The market forces are to continually create the opinion of a massive shortage, as they have continually been doing since the 1960's. This allows them to keep raising the price, and make more profit, while having to do less work for each dollar.

Sorry, your comment doesn't hold water to me...
 

Ornery

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  1. You mean we're stuck driving econoboxes for no good reason? :| (Where's the smoke coming out of my ears icon?)
 

IronWing

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I was digging in my back yard and found some jsut an inch down.

GET IT DIPSHIT! Oil is a finite supply. We need alternative energy now, tommorrow, next year or next centeury.

Or we can continue assuming the OZone layer is fine and global warming is "normal"

 

Specop 007

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It doesnt matter if Earth makes oil or not. We use it faster then its made. Period. End of story. If we prove its a renewable resource all it does is keep us on the oil yoke that much longer, it doesnt solve a damn thing. If you use something faster then its made, you will run out. End of story. Why is this so hard to understand?
 

mercanucaribe

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Originally posted by: Jarhead
Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Great, pseudoscience. Think about whose interests it's in to make you believe that oil is endless.

Why aren't there any geologists in this forum?


The market forces are to continually create the opinion of a massive shortage, as they have continually been doing since the 1960's. This allows them to keep raising the price, and make more profit, while having to do less work for each dollar.

Sorry, your comment doesn't hold water to me...

If oil can be formed abiogenically, why is it only in sedimentary rocks?
 

imported_hscorpio

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Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Originally posted by: Jarhead
Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Great, pseudoscience. Think about whose interests it's in to make you believe that oil is endless.

Why aren't there any geologists in this forum?


The market forces are to continually create the opinion of a massive shortage, as they have continually been doing since the 1960's. This allows them to keep raising the price, and make more profit, while having to do less work for each dollar.

Sorry, your comment doesn't hold water to me...

If oil can be formed abiogenically, why is it only in sedimentary rocks?

Abiogenic formation of alkanes in the Earth's crust as a minor source for global hydrocarbon reservoirs.

From the limited amount of reading I've done on this subject, I think there is some evidence pointing towards the possibility of abiogenic oil formation. But in the end the fact that there has yet to be a full on 'gusher' that is clearly not from some sedimentary source rock is the best deciding factor in this debate.
 

mercanucaribe

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Originally posted by: hscorpio
Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Originally posted by: Jarhead
Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Great, pseudoscience. Think about whose interests it's in to make you believe that oil is endless.

Why aren't there any geologists in this forum?


The market forces are to continually create the opinion of a massive shortage, as they have continually been doing since the 1960's. This allows them to keep raising the price, and make more profit, while having to do less work for each dollar.

Sorry, your comment doesn't hold water to me...

If oil can be formed abiogenically, why is it only in sedimentary rocks?

Abiogenic formation of alkanes in the Earth's crust as a minor source for global hydrocarbon reservoirs.

From the limited amount of reading I've done on this subject, I think there is some evidence pointing towards the possibility of abiogenic oil formation. But in the end the fact that there has yet to be a full on 'gusher' that is clearly not from some sedimentary source rock is the best deciding factor in this debate.

Methane isn't anywhere close to oil.
 

imported_hscorpio

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Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Originally posted by: hscorpio
Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Originally posted by: Jarhead
Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Great, pseudoscience. Think about whose interests it's in to make you believe that oil is endless.

Why aren't there any geologists in this forum?


The market forces are to continually create the opinion of a massive shortage, as they have continually been doing since the 1960's. This allows them to keep raising the price, and make more profit, while having to do less work for each dollar.

Sorry, your comment doesn't hold water to me...

If oil can be formed abiogenically, why is it only in sedimentary rocks?

Abiogenic formation of alkanes in the Earth's crust as a minor source for global hydrocarbon reservoirs.

From the limited amount of reading I've done on this subject, I think there is some evidence pointing towards the possibility of abiogenic oil formation. But in the end the fact that there has yet to be a full on 'gusher' that is clearly not from some sedimentary source rock is the best deciding factor in this debate.

Methane isn't anywhere close to oil.
Explain.
:confused:
 

Fenixgoon

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Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004
I was digging in my back yard and found some jsut an inch down.

GET IT DIPSHIT! Oil is a finite supply. We need alternative energy now, tommorrow, next year or next centeury.

Or we can continue assuming the OZone layer is fine and global warming is "normal"

actually the ozone hole is healing now
 

Jarhead

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Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Originally posted by: Jarhead
Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Great, pseudoscience. Think about whose interests it's in to make you believe that oil is endless.

Why aren't there any geologists in this forum?


The market forces are to continually create the opinion of a massive shortage, as they have continually been doing since the 1960's. This allows them to keep raising the price, and make more profit, while having to do less work for each dollar.

Sorry, your comment doesn't hold water to me...

If oil can be formed abiogenically, why is it only in sedimentary rocks?


It isn't just in sedimentary rocks. It is best to read things before you speak. If you had bothered to read something, you'd have not made that comment.

They are finding oil now, up to eight miles deep, well below and beyond the sedimentary rocks. Deep into the basalt and granite.