the lethal dose of marijuana is either about one-third your body weight, or about 1,500 pounds, consumed all at once

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IGBT

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: IGBT
Originally posted by: BroeBo
Originally posted by: IGBT
..a lot less then that when you consider you's a doper and spends your waking hours chasing the bag.

Stereotype much? Not everyone who smokes pot is a pothead. Marijuana is not physically addictive.


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Marijuana addiction has the same characteristics as any other addiction to other drugs including alcohol, tobacco or even caffeine. The frequent obsession with the drug, thinking about it all the time, where to get it, when to get it, is there enough, is it good enough, will I have the money for more are frequently asked questions. Another trait of marijuana addiction is the physical craving that comes when the body adapts to the drug and begins to develop a tolerance to it. Anyone who has been smoking marijuana for awhile can tell that they must smoke more now to feel the same effect that just a few hits used to produce. It's not about the quality of the weed, it's the bodies defense mechanism as it readjusts to keep balance with the frequent supply of new chemicals being delivered by the pot.

Tolerance is not the same as physical addiction. Not that that matters as there are countless substances that are truly physically addicting that are completely legal. It is more than possible -- even likely -- that you're taking one of them under prescription right now.

..denial (rejection of the truth) is a major hurdle when the user carries the yolk of addiction.

 

Vic

Elite Member
Jun 12, 2001
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Originally posted by: IGBT
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: IGBT
Originally posted by: BroeBo
Originally posted by: IGBT
..a lot less then that when you consider you's a doper and spends your waking hours chasing the bag.

Stereotype much? Not everyone who smokes pot is a pothead. Marijuana is not physically addictive.


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Marijuana addiction has the same characteristics as any other addiction to other drugs including alcohol, tobacco or even caffeine. The frequent obsession with the drug, thinking about it all the time, where to get it, when to get it, is there enough, is it good enough, will I have the money for more are frequently asked questions. Another trait of marijuana addiction is the physical craving that comes when the body adapts to the drug and begins to develop a tolerance to it. Anyone who has been smoking marijuana for awhile can tell that they must smoke more now to feel the same effect that just a few hits used to produce. It's not about the quality of the weed, it's the bodies defense mechanism as it readjusts to keep balance with the frequent supply of new chemicals being delivered by the pot.

Tolerance is not the same as physical addiction. Not that that matters as there are countless substances that are truly physically addicting that are completely legal. It is more than possible -- even likely -- that you're taking one of them under prescription right now.

..denial (rejection of the truth) is a major hurdle when the user carries the yolk of addiction.

Who is in denial? You? I don't use marijuana. I simply am able to understand how pointless, harmful, and hypocritical the anti-drug position is. You're not helping anyone, you're just ruining lives.
 

40Hands

Diamond Member
Jun 29, 2004
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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: IGBT
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: IGBT
Originally posted by: BroeBo
Originally posted by: IGBT
..a lot less then that when you consider you's a doper and spends your waking hours chasing the bag.

Stereotype much? Not everyone who smokes pot is a pothead. Marijuana is not physically addictive.


Text


Marijuana addiction has the same characteristics as any other addiction to other drugs including alcohol, tobacco or even caffeine. The frequent obsession with the drug, thinking about it all the time, where to get it, when to get it, is there enough, is it good enough, will I have the money for more are frequently asked questions. Another trait of marijuana addiction is the physical craving that comes when the body adapts to the drug and begins to develop a tolerance to it. Anyone who has been smoking marijuana for awhile can tell that they must smoke more now to feel the same effect that just a few hits used to produce. It's not about the quality of the weed, it's the bodies defense mechanism as it readjusts to keep balance with the frequent supply of new chemicals being delivered by the pot.

Tolerance is not the same as physical addiction. Not that that matters as there are countless substances that are truly physically addicting that are completely legal. It is more than possible -- even likely -- that you're taking one of them under prescription right now.

..denial (rejection of the truth) is a major hurdle when the user carries the yolk of addiction.

Who is in denial? You? I don't use marijuana. I simply am able to understand how pointless, harmful, and hypocritical the anti-drug position is. You're not helping anyone, you're just ruining lives.

I think arguing with him is futile. I am waiting for him to post some of those stupid commercials, like the pregnant girl or the girl riding her bike.

It's unfortunate how well propaganda works on some people. Reefer Madness anyone?
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: blue1friday2
Yes I have been intoxicated and not just with alcohol. I quit all that crap because it is a waste of brain cells. I don't have a moral problem with it I just think it is dumb. I just meant that using the reasoning that because alcohol is worse and it is legal, that marijuana should be legal too is flawed.

And you think that reasoning is flawed because... ?
It seems like perfectly reasonable logic to me.
 

Legendary

Diamond Member
Jan 22, 2002
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Originally posted by: IGBT
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: IGBT
Originally posted by: BroeBo
Originally posted by: IGBT
..a lot less then that when you consider you's a doper and spends your waking hours chasing the bag.

Stereotype much? Not everyone who smokes pot is a pothead. Marijuana is not physically addictive.


Text


Marijuana addiction has the same characteristics as any other addiction to other drugs including alcohol, tobacco or even caffeine. The frequent obsession with the drug, thinking about it all the time, where to get it, when to get it, is there enough, is it good enough, will I have the money for more are frequently asked questions. Another trait of marijuana addiction is the physical craving that comes when the body adapts to the drug and begins to develop a tolerance to it. Anyone who has been smoking marijuana for awhile can tell that they must smoke more now to feel the same effect that just a few hits used to produce. It's not about the quality of the weed, it's the bodies defense mechanism as it readjusts to keep balance with the frequent supply of new chemicals being delivered by the pot.

Tolerance is not the same as physical addiction. Not that that matters as there are countless substances that are truly physically addicting that are completely legal. It is more than possible -- even likely -- that you're taking one of them under prescription right now.

..denial (rejection of the truth) is a major hurdle when the user carries the yolk of addiction.

Does anyone else find an irony in this post, considering IGBT's sig?

If an individual wants to be a leader and isn't controversial, that means he never stood for anything.
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: BroeBo
I think arguing with him is futile. I am waiting for him to post some of those stupid commercials, like the pregnant girl or the girl riding her bike.

It's unfortunate how well propaganda works on some people. Reefer Madness anyone?

For your enjoyment
 

IGBT

Lifer
Jul 16, 2001
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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: blue1friday2
Yes I have been intoxicated and not just with alcohol. I quit all that crap because it is a waste of brain cells. I don't have a moral problem with it I just think it is dumb. I just meant that using the reasoning that because alcohol is worse and it is legal, that marijuana should be legal too is flawed.

And you think that reasoning is flawed because... ?
It seems like perfectly reasonable logic to me.


..isn't it amazing how they justify playing yoyo with their brain chemistry and make a career defending it.
 

destrekor

Lifer
Nov 18, 2005
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the idea of making is legal shouldn't just be a 'stoner's' dream, nor should the reasoning that it's bad for you, or not as bad as something else that is legal, be a reason for it to be illegal or legal, respectively.
it's to the government's benefit to legalize it. sure, there were reasons behind making it illegal, mostly to crush the lack of proper distribution, where the drug had to be had through dealers. there were reasons behind the ban on alcohol back in the day too.. but they later saw past that.
hopefully the government will see that with proper distribution, it will benefit from the legalization of it. it's merely a social thing, causes less problems than alcohol (both to the person and to society itself). the best bet (of which i don't really like but is the most likely solution) is to allow for the sale of it in stores, with private corporations providing the product and packaging however they see fit, and stores being the distribution channel. government could tax it (hopefully not, but like I said, that would be the likely situation if sold in stores). at the same time, hopefully personal/private sales between individuals would also be legal. also, there would likely have to be a legal limit that a person could carry on them. that seems to be the norm when legalizing the drug when it was previously illegal.
 

MiniDoom

Diamond Member
Jan 5, 2004
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Originally posted by: destrekor
the idea of making is legal shouldn't just be a 'stoner's' dream, nor should the reasoning that it's bad for you, or not as bad as something else that is legal, be a reason for it to be illegal or legal, respectively.
it's to the government's benefit to legalize it. sure, there were reasons behind making it illegal, mostly to crush the lack of proper distribution, where the drug had to be had through dealers. there were reasons behind the ban on alcohol back in the day too.. but they later saw past that.
hopefully the government will see that with proper distribution, it will benefit from the legalization of it. it's merely a social thing, causes less problems than alcohol (both to the person and to society itself). the best bet (of which i don't really like but is the most likely solution) is to allow for the sale of it in stores, with private corporations providing the product and packaging however they see fit, and stores being the distribution channel. government could tax it (hopefully not, but like I said, that would be the likely situation if sold in stores). at the same time, hopefully personal/private sales between individuals would also be legal. also, there would likely have to be a legal limit that a person could carry on them. that seems to be the norm when legalizing the drug when it was previously illegal.

How can the government regulate something that can be easily grown in your home? I think a big reason it is illegal has to do with the drug companies. Why pay $100 for a THC pill when you can grow your medicine for almost free?
 

Eli

Super Moderator | Elite Member
Oct 9, 1999
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We've only known this since the beginning of time. ;)
 

Ryan

Lifer
Oct 31, 2000
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Originally posted by: rdubbz420
Originally posted by: destrekor
the idea of making is legal shouldn't just be a 'stoner's' dream, nor should the reasoning that it's bad for you, or not as bad as something else that is legal, be a reason for it to be illegal or legal, respectively.
it's to the government's benefit to legalize it. sure, there were reasons behind making it illegal, mostly to crush the lack of proper distribution, where the drug had to be had through dealers. there were reasons behind the ban on alcohol back in the day too.. but they later saw past that.
hopefully the government will see that with proper distribution, it will benefit from the legalization of it. it's merely a social thing, causes less problems than alcohol (both to the person and to society itself). the best bet (of which i don't really like but is the most likely solution) is to allow for the sale of it in stores, with private corporations providing the product and packaging however they see fit, and stores being the distribution channel. government could tax it (hopefully not, but like I said, that would be the likely situation if sold in stores). at the same time, hopefully personal/private sales between individuals would also be legal. also, there would likely have to be a legal limit that a person could carry on them. that seems to be the norm when legalizing the drug when it was previously illegal.

How can the government regulate something that can be easily grown in your home? I think a big reason it is illegal has to do with the drug companies. Why pay $100 for a THC pill when you can grow your medicine for almost free?

Couldn't the same be said for tobacco? It can easily be grown too.
 

Unmoosical

Senior member
Feb 27, 2006
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Originally posted by: IGBT
Originally posted by: BroeBo
Originally posted by: IGBT
..a lot less then that when you consider you's a doper and spends your waking hours chasing the bag.

Stereotype much? Not everyone who smokes pot is a pothead. Marijuana is not physically addictive.


Text


Marijuana addiction has the same characteristics as any other addiction to other drugs including alcohol, tobacco or even caffeine. The frequent obsession with the drug, thinking about it all the time, where to get it, when to get it, is there enough, is it good enough, will I have the money for more are frequently asked questions. Another trait of marijuana addiction is the physical craving that comes when the body adapts to the drug and begins to develop a tolerance to it. Anyone who has been smoking marijuana for awhile can tell that they must smoke more now to feel the same effect that just a few hits used to produce. It's not about the quality of the weed, it's the bodies defense mechanism as it readjusts to keep balance with the frequent supply of new chemicals being delivered by the pot.


Do you also believe in people getting addicted to porn? They have web sites about that too.
 

MiniDoom

Diamond Member
Jan 5, 2004
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Originally posted by: Ryan
Originally posted by: rdubbz420
Originally posted by: destrekor
the idea of making is legal shouldn't just be a 'stoner's' dream, nor should the reasoning that it's bad for you, or not as bad as something else that is legal, be a reason for it to be illegal or legal, respectively.
it's to the government's benefit to legalize it. sure, there were reasons behind making it illegal, mostly to crush the lack of proper distribution, where the drug had to be had through dealers. there were reasons behind the ban on alcohol back in the day too.. but they later saw past that.
hopefully the government will see that with proper distribution, it will benefit from the legalization of it. it's merely a social thing, causes less problems than alcohol (both to the person and to society itself). the best bet (of which i don't really like but is the most likely solution) is to allow for the sale of it in stores, with private corporations providing the product and packaging however they see fit, and stores being the distribution channel. government could tax it (hopefully not, but like I said, that would be the likely situation if sold in stores). at the same time, hopefully personal/private sales between individuals would also be legal. also, there would likely have to be a legal limit that a person could carry on them. that seems to be the norm when legalizing the drug when it was previously illegal.

How can the government regulate something that can be easily grown in your home? I think a big reason it is illegal has to do with the drug companies. Why pay $100 for a THC pill when you can grow your medicine for almost free?

Couldn't the same be said for tobacco? It can easily be grown too.

I'm not sure, but I think you would need alot more space to grow tobacco. People also tend to smoke way more tobacco than weed.
 

Vic

Elite Member
Jun 12, 2001
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Originally posted by: IGBT
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: blue1friday2
Yes I have been intoxicated and not just with alcohol. I quit all that crap because it is a waste of brain cells. I don't have a moral problem with it I just think it is dumb. I just meant that using the reasoning that because alcohol is worse and it is legal, that marijuana should be legal too is flawed.

And you think that reasoning is flawed because... ?
It seems like perfectly reasonable logic to me.

..isn't it amazing how they justify playing yoyo with their brain chemistry and make a career defending it.

Are you trying to imply that we should outlaw sugar next?

Really though, your pseudo-moralistic "bad for you" argument makes no sense and has not logical backing. Not only are countless foods and legal drugs also bad for you (and worse), but drug prohibitions do nothing to stop drug use, and jailing people for using drugs does nothing to help lives.
 

Vic

Elite Member
Jun 12, 2001
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Originally posted by: rdubbz420
Originally posted by: destrekor
the idea of making is legal shouldn't just be a 'stoner's' dream, nor should the reasoning that it's bad for you, or not as bad as something else that is legal, be a reason for it to be illegal or legal, respectively.
it's to the government's benefit to legalize it. sure, there were reasons behind making it illegal, mostly to crush the lack of proper distribution, where the drug had to be had through dealers. there were reasons behind the ban on alcohol back in the day too.. but they later saw past that.
hopefully the government will see that with proper distribution, it will benefit from the legalization of it. it's merely a social thing, causes less problems than alcohol (both to the person and to society itself). the best bet (of which i don't really like but is the most likely solution) is to allow for the sale of it in stores, with private corporations providing the product and packaging however they see fit, and stores being the distribution channel. government could tax it (hopefully not, but like I said, that would be the likely situation if sold in stores). at the same time, hopefully personal/private sales between individuals would also be legal. also, there would likely have to be a legal limit that a person could carry on them. that seems to be the norm when legalizing the drug when it was previously illegal.

How can the government regulate something that can be easily grown in your home? I think a big reason it is illegal has to do with the drug companies. Why pay $100 for a THC pill when you can grow your medicine for almost free?

People can easily and cheaply make alcohol in their home, but most people don't.

Because the most common medicinal use is anti-nausea, THC pills don't work for obvious reasons having other to do with marijuana's ability to be homegrown.
 

Eli

Super Moderator | Elite Member
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: rdubbz420
Originally posted by: destrekor
the idea of making is legal shouldn't just be a 'stoner's' dream, nor should the reasoning that it's bad for you, or not as bad as something else that is legal, be a reason for it to be illegal or legal, respectively.
it's to the government's benefit to legalize it. sure, there were reasons behind making it illegal, mostly to crush the lack of proper distribution, where the drug had to be had through dealers. there were reasons behind the ban on alcohol back in the day too.. but they later saw past that.
hopefully the government will see that with proper distribution, it will benefit from the legalization of it. it's merely a social thing, causes less problems than alcohol (both to the person and to society itself). the best bet (of which i don't really like but is the most likely solution) is to allow for the sale of it in stores, with private corporations providing the product and packaging however they see fit, and stores being the distribution channel. government could tax it (hopefully not, but like I said, that would be the likely situation if sold in stores). at the same time, hopefully personal/private sales between individuals would also be legal. also, there would likely have to be a legal limit that a person could carry on them. that seems to be the norm when legalizing the drug when it was previously illegal.

How can the government regulate something that can be easily grown in your home? I think a big reason it is illegal has to do with the drug companies. Why pay $100 for a THC pill when you can grow your medicine for almost free?
It is against the law for many reasons, all of which are corrupt and/or illogical.

The cotton lobby had much to do with it also.

BTW, our attempts to synethsize THC were met with very little success. Sure, we synthesized it.. but the side effects of manmade THC were intense, and the pills didn't work as well as the natural stuff.
 

MiniDoom

Diamond Member
Jan 5, 2004
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Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: rdubbz420
Originally posted by: destrekor
the idea of making is legal shouldn't just be a 'stoner's' dream, nor should the reasoning that it's bad for you, or not as bad as something else that is legal, be a reason for it to be illegal or legal, respectively.
it's to the government's benefit to legalize it. sure, there were reasons behind making it illegal, mostly to crush the lack of proper distribution, where the drug had to be had through dealers. there were reasons behind the ban on alcohol back in the day too.. but they later saw past that.
hopefully the government will see that with proper distribution, it will benefit from the legalization of it. it's merely a social thing, causes less problems than alcohol (both to the person and to society itself). the best bet (of which i don't really like but is the most likely solution) is to allow for the sale of it in stores, with private corporations providing the product and packaging however they see fit, and stores being the distribution channel. government could tax it (hopefully not, but like I said, that would be the likely situation if sold in stores). at the same time, hopefully personal/private sales between individuals would also be legal. also, there would likely have to be a legal limit that a person could carry on them. that seems to be the norm when legalizing the drug when it was previously illegal.

How can the government regulate something that can be easily grown in your home? I think a big reason it is illegal has to do with the drug companies. Why pay $100 for a THC pill when you can grow your medicine for almost free?
It is against the law for many reasons, all of which are corrupt and/or illogical.

The cotton lobby had much to do with it also.

BTW, our attempts to synethsize THC were met with very little success. Sure, we synthesized it.. but the side effects of manmade THC were intense, and the pills didn't work as well as the natural stuff.

Its just fvcking retarded. I can buy a m16, but I cant smoke a joint.:| WTF!
 

Eeezee

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And yet Nevada failed to pass its marijuana legalization proposition. It would still be illegal federally, but it would have been very interesting if Nevada had passed it.
 

MrPickins

Diamond Member
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Originally posted by: rdubbz420
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: rdubbz420
Originally posted by: destrekor
the idea of making is legal shouldn't just be a 'stoner's' dream, nor should the reasoning that it's bad for you, or not as bad as something else that is legal, be a reason for it to be illegal or legal, respectively.
it's to the government's benefit to legalize it. sure, there were reasons behind making it illegal, mostly to crush the lack of proper distribution, where the drug had to be had through dealers. there were reasons behind the ban on alcohol back in the day too.. but they later saw past that.
hopefully the government will see that with proper distribution, it will benefit from the legalization of it. it's merely a social thing, causes less problems than alcohol (both to the person and to society itself). the best bet (of which i don't really like but is the most likely solution) is to allow for the sale of it in stores, with private corporations providing the product and packaging however they see fit, and stores being the distribution channel. government could tax it (hopefully not, but like I said, that would be the likely situation if sold in stores). at the same time, hopefully personal/private sales between individuals would also be legal. also, there would likely have to be a legal limit that a person could carry on them. that seems to be the norm when legalizing the drug when it was previously illegal.

How can the government regulate something that can be easily grown in your home? I think a big reason it is illegal has to do with the drug companies. Why pay $100 for a THC pill when you can grow your medicine for almost free?
It is against the law for many reasons, all of which are corrupt and/or illogical.

The cotton lobby had much to do with it also.

BTW, our attempts to synethsize THC were met with very little success. Sure, we synthesized it.. but the side effects of manmade THC were intense, and the pills didn't work as well as the natural stuff.

Its just fvcking retarded. I can buy a m16, but I cant smoke a joint.:| WTF!

You can't even grow industrial hemp to make your own products.
Sheer lunacy.
 

lokiju

Lifer
May 29, 2003
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Originally posted by: IGBT
Originally posted by: BroeBo
Originally posted by: IGBT
..a lot less then that when you consider you's a doper and spends your waking hours chasing the bag.

Stereotype much? Not everyone who smokes pot is a pothead. Marijuana is not physically addictive.


Text


Marijuana addiction has the same characteristics as any other addiction to other drugs including alcohol, tobacco or even caffeine. The frequent obsession with the drug, thinking about it all the time, where to get it, when to get it, is there enough, is it good enough, will I have the money for more are frequently asked questions. Another trait of marijuana addiction is the physical craving that comes when the body adapts to the drug and begins to develop a tolerance to it. Anyone who has been smoking marijuana for awhile can tell that they must smoke more now to feel the same effect that just a few hits used to produce. It's not about the quality of the weed, it's the bodies defense mechanism as it readjusts to keep balance with the frequent supply of new chemicals being delivered by the pot.

This is perfectly describing a mental addiction, not a physical addiction.

This same thing could be applied to video games, women, cars and still work, would you call those people physically addicted?