The latest wacky idea from South Carolina... Interracial Dating not permitted

Phokus

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Obviously inspired by Glenn1's post http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=38&threadid=714678 ;)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/2000-02/14/056l-021400-idx.html



<< McCain: No Visit to Bob Jones University
Race Policies Decried As 'Not American'

By Stephen Barr
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, February 14, 2000; Page A04

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), drawing a contrast between himself and
Texas Gov. George W. Bush six days before the crucial South Carolina
GOP primary, said yesterday he would not hold a campaign rally at Bob
Jones University, a conservative bastion that bans interracial dating.

"If I were there," McCain added, "I would condemn openly the policies of
Bob Jones, because I would want to make sure that everybody knew that
this kind of thing is not American."

Bush defended his Feb. 2 appearance at the school, the day after McCain
trounced him in the New Hampshire primary. It was a campaign stop to
address voters and not an endorsement of the university's policies, Bush
said yesterday.

"How could I go into a university like that and subscribe to those views
when my little brother [Jeb], the great governor of Florida, married a girl
from Mexico?" Bush said.

McCain and Bush offered their views on separate morning talk shows.
McCain appeared on CBS's "Face the Nation" and Bush on NBC's "Meet
the Press." The candidates were aggressive in trying to turn questions--on
Bob Jones, veterans, Social Security and other topics--to their advantage.

Bush and McCain are locked in a nasty battle in South Carolina, which
holds its GOP presidential primary Saturday. Turnout by conservative
Christian voters, a pillar of the state's Republican Party, could be crucial
for Bush, who hopes their votes will counter an apparent surge of
independents and Democrats toward McCain.

In 1996, slightly more than a third of South Carolina GOP primary voters
described themselves in exit polls as religious conservatives. Yesterday,
Bush supporter Pat Robertson, head of the Christian Coalition, said on
CBS that the Texas governor "needs these people to win."

Bob Jones University has been a symbol of the South's troubled racial
politics for many years. The college lost its tax-exempt status in the 1970s
for refusing to admit blacks. It subsequently ended its segregationist
admissions policy but continues to ban interracial dating.

On NBC, Bush was shown three statements from school officials that
described Bush's father as "a devil," the pope as "the greatest danger we
face today," and whites, blacks and Asians as "meant to be separate from
one another."

Bush said he disagreed with the statements and noted they were made in
1982 and 1983. He went to Bob Jones, he said, "to give out my message
of compassionate conservatism" and called the college a "religious group . .
. not a hate group."

The winner in South Carolina hopes to parlay that into success in primary
elections in Michigan on Feb. 22 and in other key states on March 7. A
Newsweek poll released yesterday shows Bush leading McCain by 3
percentage points in South Carolina, a statistical dead heat.

A Detroit News poll released yesterday showed McCain ahead of Bush
43 percent to 34 percent in Michigan. Two weeks ago, McCain trailed
Bush by 51 percent to 17 percent in the Michigan poll.

On ABC's "This Week," Minnesota Gov. Jesse Ventura said he would
accept an offer from McCain to run as his vice president. Ventura, who
broke from the Reform Party last week, praised McCain for attracting
independent and third-party voters. Meanwhile, New York developer
Donald Trump has decided against running for the Reform Party's
presidential nomination, the Associated Press reported, quoting unnamed
Trump associates as saying he will make an announcement to that effect
today.

Yesterday, Bush and McCain accused each other of crossing the line by
running negative campaigns.

The networks replayed a C-SPAN video from a South Carolina campaign
event last week in which a state senator told Bush, "You all haven't even hit
his [McCain's] soft spots." On the tape, Bush replies, "I'm going to, I'm
going to," and later says, "I'm not going to do it on TV."

Bush said he meant he would do it in debates, not TV ads. The tape was
made about the time that three McCain supporters in South Carolina said
they received phone calls attacking the Arizona senator.

Bush denied that his campaign had sponsored phone calls that attacked
McCain personally. "We're not running that kind of campaign. And the
insinuation that we are is just ridiculous--it's ridiculous," Bush said.

McCain called Bush's remarks "very disappointing" and added, "I'm
disappointed in the tenor of the attacks by his surrogates."

Bush said the goal of his TV ads has been to clarify issues and his
positions. In New Hampshire, Bush said, "I got defined as someone who
was an insider in Washington, D.C. And it's not going to happen anymore
to me."

Bush, though, said he thought it good to have a strong opponent because
"it tests me as a candidate. . . . I believe everything will change after South
Carolina." He said he expects to win.

McCain complained that special interest groups were "coming down by the
busload" to defeat him Saturday but called his campaign "fun."

On his campaign bus in South Carolina, McCain again made clear that he
would continue his campaign at least through the March 7 primaries. "No
matter what happens we're in this thing until March 7," he said. "We have
enough money."
>>



Obviously, this is old, but i just came across it today. It's funny how conservatives attack liberal colleges but keep their mouths shut on colleges such as this one, eh? On a side note, this is another testament to how it's sad that Money, Family Influence, Stupidity, and Laziness (Bush) beat out Intelligence, Integrity, and a hard work ethic (McCain).

 

drewshin

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yeah, i would have much rather vote for mccain than the two nincompoops that we got to choose from.

 

Phokus

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<< yeah, i would have much rather vote for mccain than the two nincompoops that we got to choose from. >>



Yeah, it's also quite sad that Bush still has an over-inflated approval rating (although it's steadily going down). Sigh, too many damn sheep in this country.

 

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<< Yeah, it's also quite sad that Bush still has an over-inflated approval rating (although it's steadily going down). Sigh, too many damn sheep in this country.Text >>


Yeah that's almost as sad as dragging up a two year old newspaper article to try to start a flame war. Sigh, too many damn idiot children on this board. Get a life.
 

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<< Yeah that's almost as sad as dragging up a two year old newspaper article to try to start a flame war. Sigh, too many damn idiot children on this board. Get a life. >>

 

Maetryx

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<< Sigh, too many damn sheep in this country. >>



Who's bucking the popular trend? You or Bob Jones?
 

Nitemare

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<< yeah, i would have much rather vote for mccain than the two nincompoops that we got to choose from. >>



Yeah it's not like he commonly refers to all Asians as gooks now is it???

Bob Jones is nothing but a nicer name for KKK university. The only thing it is known for is being full of racists and bigots.

Bush is about as unracist as you can get, no one else has ever appointed as many minorities to cabinet members, certainly not good ole boy Clinton...and everyone knows Gore is afraid of anybody who isn't his type.
 

Phokus

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<<

<< yeah, i would have much rather vote for mccain than the two nincompoops that we got to choose from. >>



Yeah it's not like he commonly refers to all Asians as gooks now is it???

Bob Jones is nothing but a nicer name for KKK university. The only thing it is known for is being full of racists and bigots.

Bush is about as unracist as you can get, no one else has ever appointed as many minorities to cabinet members, certainly not good ole boy Clinton...and everyone knows Gore is afraid of anybody who isn't his type.
>>



Yeah because appointing minories to the cabinet is not actually a popular republican ploy to get more minority votes and 'prove' you're not racist
rolleye.gif


Hey i like native americans, that means i'm not racist!
 

burnedout

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<< Yeah, it's also quite sad that Bush still has an over-inflated approval rating (although it's steadily going down). Sigh, too many damn sheep in this country.Text >>

Yeah that's almost as sad as dragging up a two year old newspaper article to try to start a flame war. Sigh, too many damn idiot children on this board. Get a life.


***whistles***applause for DaveSohmer! :) Couldn't have said it better myself.

Obviously Phokus isn't fond of the current administration. Two days in a row now.
 

vi edit

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I think this is the first time I've said it, and it will probably be the last but....

Bush won, get over it.
 

Phokus

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<< I think this is the first time I've said it, and it will probably be the last but....

Bush won, get over it.
>>



Eh... it's kinda hard to get over the fact that we have a mentally challenged moron heading our country.
 

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Seeing as Bush won, and BJU (hehe) did away with this rule a while ago I fail to see an issue here other than flamebait.

Nitemare, I think you've got to post some evidence for your assertions. I wouldn't want to go to BJU, however I would not call it a school full of racists or bigots without first hand knowledge. Did you go there? If not, how can you generalize about the student population.
 

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<< We should move Bob Jones U next door to UC Berkely
Then arm both sides.
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I would pay to see that!
 

Phokus

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<< Seeing as Bush won, and BJU (hehe) did away with this rule a while ago I fail to see an issue here other than flamebait.

Nitemare, I think you've got to post some evidence for your assertions. I wouldn't want to go to BJU, however I would not call it a school full of racists or bigots without first hand knowledge. Did you go there? If not, how can you generalize about the student population.
>>



Eh... i don't think they did away with this rule... do you have a link?
 

etech

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Eh... i don't think



.about.com
Bob Jones Bends

University trashes a long-standing ban on interracial unions.

Dateline: 03/06/00

In an interview with Larry King on Friday, Bob Jones III, the president of the now-famous University which was at the center of a George W. Bush controversy, made an announcement that surprised many: Bob Jones University's policy against interracial dating, which they believe to be against the teachings of God, has been dropped. In his words, "We don't have to have that rule. In fact, as of today, we have dropped the rule."
 

FelixDeCat

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President George W. Bush.


Ahhhhh....sounds so nice. And again, thank GOD he won.

Would you whiney little liberals stop crying and get on with your lives?

80% + of America already has (W.'s approval rating).

Get with the program. Stand up and be men.

 

glenn1

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<< Bob Jones University, a conservative bastion that bans interracial dating. >>



I'm going to take a SWAG (Scientific Wild A** Guess) and say this probably wasn't much of a problem at old BJU, since there probably weren't a whole lot of minorities knocking down the doors to get into this hallowed palace of learning.

That being said, it was an utterly moronic policy. Unfortunately, there's no law against private citizens and organizations being idiots in this country, so it wasn't really anyone's business but the idiots at BJU, and they were properly ostracized and given the respect due to scumbags like that - none. That's about all you can do in this country with people who carry such deplorable traits or ideas like racism. You ignore them, let them rot in their stupidity, and hope that someday they'll figure out the error of their thinking and come around to being a more normal human being. In this case, it seems to have worked. If only it was so (relatively) easy every time with similarly thinking morons.
 

Nitemare

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<< Seeing as Bush won, and BJU (hehe) did away with this rule a while ago I fail to see an issue here other than flamebait.

Nitemare, I think you've got to post some evidence for your assertions. I wouldn't want to go to BJU, however I would not call it a school full of racists or bigots without first hand knowledge. Did you go there? If not, how can you generalize about the student population.
>>



my accusation was towards the faculty and the higher-ups not the students.

Whenever someone can make such an ignorant statement as to ban interracial dating because it is an afront to God...he is clearly a racist
 

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The only thing that's good about socially conservative laws is the utter satisfaction you feel when you break them. In the back of your mind, you know some prudish wacko is going nuts over your behavior. Ahhh, very satisfying to assert your natural-born liberty.