The latest in Amazon idiocy

GagHalfrunt

Lifer
Apr 19, 2001
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What is wrong with the Fucktards at Amazon? Seems like a company with that many employees might be able to afford to hire one person with a brain.

Did you know that Amazon has some items that are restricted and can only be ordered by Prime members? I didn't. And I don't really care, many businesses offer perks to their best customers. However, Amazon doesn't really want to draw too much attention to the "nyah nyah!! other people can have this and you can't!!" products, so the restriction is mentioned unobtrusively. So unobtrusively that it's pretty easy to miss. You wanna guess how I know it's easily missable? Yeah, I missed it. Still, shouldn't be a problem, surely the site would have safeguards in place to prevent non-Prime peasants like me from ordering items that are restricted to the holiest of holies. Nope.

I bought two items on the same order, one regular access and one prime restricted. The site did not mention that I couldn't have item B. It processed both items, charged me for both items, sent me an order confirmation for both items. Order arrived today with, you guessed it, only one item. Off to Amazon.com I go to discover status of missing item. Then and only then do I find the little disclaimer that the item cannot be purchased by me. Fine time to tell me that, a week after I ordered it, paid for it and was told it was coming. That's just unacceptably poor website design and business planning. How the fuck do you let a customer buy an item they can't have, charge them for it and not even have the courtesy to tell them you can't have it? If the story ended there it would be bad enough, but wait, there's more.

Contact CS, am told that I can just cancel the other item. Tried to do it, no dice. The two items together total well over the free shipping minimum, but the one item I got already wouldn't qualify on its own. So the site has them linked together and since one item was delivered the other can't be cancelled or it screws up the free shipping thing and the system can't compensate for it. And neither can the two CSR people I've talked to so far. I've already paid for the item in limbo, but I'm not allowed to get it and not allowed to cancel it either. Such fun.
 

MongGrel

Lifer
Dec 3, 2013
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I'm surprised you were even allowed to buy a Prime item to begin with myself, without a Prime account.

CSR's there have allows solved problems for me fast, but I have been a Prime member a few years now I guess.

I'm hard pressed to support you on this one.
 

GagHalfrunt

Lifer
Apr 19, 2001
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I'm surprised you were even allowed to buy a Prime item to begin with myself, without a Prime account.

CSR's there have allows solved problems for me fast, but I have been a Prime member a few years now I guess.

That's what's pissing me off. How was I allowed to buy an item I couldn't buy? How was I billed for an item they wouldn't ship? Why did I get confirmation for an order that wasn't valid? Why wasn't I notified of the problem before the rest of the order arrived? How could the process fail to catch the conflict at 10 different stages? Christ almighty, this seems like the easiest thing in the world to plan for. When an item is added to a customers cart just check the item restrictions against the buyers privileges. If they can buy it, proceed, if they're not allowed, display error. Now I'm stuck dealing with this shit when one person with one brain cell could have prevented it with literally one line of code.
 
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master_shake_

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obviously he (the op) doesn't know about walmarts secret VIP showroom

it's out back by the loading dock.

ask for my man Raoul. everything is 75 percent off cash only debit down.
 
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MongGrel

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Dec 3, 2013
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That's what's pissing me off. How was I allowed to buy an item I couldn't buy? How was I billed for an item they wouldn't ship? Why did I get confirmation for an order that wasn't valid? Why wasn't I notified of the problem before the rest of the order arrived? How could the process fail to catch the conflict at 10 different stages? Christ almighty, this seems like the easiest thing in the world to plan for. When an item is added to a customers cart just check the item restrictions against the buyers privileges. If they can buy it, proceed, if they're not allowed, display error. Now I'm stuck dealing with this shit when one person with one brain cell could have prevented it with literally one line of code.

That is a valid point, sorry about that last one.

I think they have been overextending for awhile now, really.
 

Red Squirrel

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May 24, 2003
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Hmm can't say I've run into that, I don't think prime items show up for me. Or maybe I just got lucky.

What I do hate is how their CSRs are super easy to social engineer and anyone who basically knows your email address can get all your personal info.
 

Rumpltzer

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Jun 7, 2003
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It was not in any way bulk, alternator sized or related to hookers and/or blow. Nobody should care.
Well, now you've really got us interested.

Is it something that you need to wash off/out once you're done with it???


If one of my hot female friends asked me to buy her something (bulk, alternator-sized, etc. included) by Amazon Prime, I'd have no problems with that. Are you hot and female?
 
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Imp

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That reminds me, they finally raised the free shipping minimum here from $25 to $35. FML.
 

John Connor

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99% of the time I find the same item on eBay (yeah, eBay) cheaper and free shipping than Amazon. So I buy there. But sometimes eBay doesn't have what Amazon caries so I have to go with them or another company. What pisses me off is that I have gotten shit shipped from a lone person from eBay faster than Amazon! I guess that's the price you pay (no pun intended) for not throwing money at crime, I mean Prime.
 
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Red Squirrel

No Lifer
May 24, 2003
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Yeah I've learned to shop both ebay and Amazon now, they are basically the same at this point. Either way 99% chance it's coming directly from China. Everything is made there anyway, so it cuts out the middle man. :p
 

Crono

Lifer
Aug 8, 2001
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Yeah I've learned to shop both ebay and Amazon now, they are basically the same at this point. Either way 99% chance it's coming directly from China. Everything is made there anyway, so it cuts out the middle man. :p

I think that's what Alibaba/AliExpress is for, actually.
 

LTC8K6

Lifer
Mar 10, 2004
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Must have been a glitch. You shouldn't have been able to put it in your cart.

Thank goodness only Amazon ever has glitches.
 

Newbian

Lifer
Aug 24, 2008
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Must have been a glitch. You shouldn't have been able to put it in your cart.

Thank goodness only Amazon ever has glitches.
This is what I see on my account as I only use them maybe 3-4 times a year now so it must had found a small bugged item somehow.
 

A Casual Fitz

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May 16, 2005
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I've noticed the Prime only stuff a lot more lately. Things I've ordered no problem are now Prime only. Oh well, I'll take my business elsewhere.

Amazon CSR should be able to see the problem and rectify it pretty easily. Charge you for the item that arrived and maintain the free shipping for your inconvenience at the very least.
 

John Connor

Lifer
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Seems like Amazon is becoming a Sams Club of Internet sold merchandise where membership is needed. If an Amazon corporate dude is reading this I will straight up and tell you right now that is a failed business model. Use the Walmart strategy of everyday low prices. Don't make it an exclusive club. Like how the Internet should be open and free, so should online retailers. If eBay ever went this route they would in very short order lose a ton of their users. Bad enough they made one mistake after another. You know what they are. Many switched to Facebook or other online auction websites.

I can only imagine that if Amazon continues down the dark stupid path, their stock will too become a lousy $32 bucks.
 
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Puffnstuff

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Amazon has been good to me over the years and always resolves order issues for me quickly. Yes I have a prime account.:mask: Even so there are items such as add-ons that require other items to exist in an order before I can add them. My biggest concern is that they're building their new distribution center in town and once completed I won't be able to escape paying sales tax on my purchases.:worried:
 

XavierMace

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If an Amazon corporate dude is reading this I will straight up and tell you right now that is a failed business model.

I love it when random people on the internet think they know how to run a multi BILLION dollar company better than the people running a multi-billion dollar company. A multibillion dollar company who's worth quite a bit more than the company who's business model you think they should follow.
 

Newbian

Lifer
Aug 24, 2008
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Amazon has been good to me over the years and always resolves order issues for me quickly. Yes I have a prime account.:mask: Even so there are items such as add-ons that require other items to exist in an order before I can add them. My biggest concern is that they're building their new distribution center in town and once completed I won't be able to escape paying sales tax on my purchases.:worried:
Reported to the irs. :innocent:
 

A Casual Fitz

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May 16, 2005
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Amazon has been good to me over the years and always resolves order issues for me quickly. Yes I have a prime account.:mask: Even so there are items such as add-ons that require other items to exist in an order before I can add them. My biggest concern is that they're building their new distribution center in town and once completed I won't be able to escape paying sales tax on my purchases.:worried:
Let me know if you need assistance finding the first world problems thread.
 

Crono

Lifer
Aug 8, 2001
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I love it when random people on the internet think they know how to run a multi BILLION dollar company better than the people running a multi-billion dollar company. A multibillion dollar company who's worth quite a bit more than the company who's business model you think they should follow.

I have no problems with you saying that, and I'm sure most of us would do a worse job, but companies (and governments) where the leadership thinks that arrogantly suck.

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