The last Novermber surprise. Saddam verdict on Sunday.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20061103/wl_mideast_afp/iraq_061103175405

The Iraqi High Tribunal trying Saddam for crimes against humanity will deliver its verdict on Sunday, and Iraq has cancelled all military leave to thwart any outbreak of violence before or after the ruling.

The tribunal is expected to deliver a death sentence on the former Iraqi military strongman, a judgment that could further escalate violence in the war-ravaged country.



Iraqis follow the news in the U.S. very closely. The timing of the verdict will certainly be seen as coming from the U.S. Not good for the safety of Iraqis or our troops.
I am expecting Bush to make some kind of speech either Sunday or Monday night. Heck, it is is the ONLY good thing to come out of the Iraq invasion.
 

Craig234

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In contrast, the Tim Foley committee has finished its interviewing and could issue the report, they say, but they're holding off until after the election.

And of course, Foley completed his 30 day rehab, but extended that after the election.
 

ayabe

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I know what the punishment will be, Saddam will be appointed president of Iraq and will have to sort this mess out.

Punishment fits the crime right?
 

Lemon law

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Somewhat like Sharon---Saddam ceased to matter a long time ago----maybe GWB can cut off Saddam's head after he is executed---stick it on a pike---and display it on the white house lawn.

We hired him---we fired him---nothing worse than a dictator that won't stay bought.
 

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It's about time. Death penalty would be fitting his crimes and would put an once-and-for-all end to any remnant Baathist visions of regaining power.
 

Lemon law

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Even given Saddam gets the death sentence from a US led sham court---whats the value in just killing Saddam?---no propaganda value in a dead man.

They will probably try him on the other charges---milk him for all he's worth .
 

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We let Hirohito off and he died a peaceful death in his bed.
Despite being ten times the murderous tyrant that Saddam ever was.
 

palehorse

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Originally posted by: Lemon law
Even given Saddam gets the death sentence from a US led sham court---whats the value in just killing Saddam?---no propaganda value in a dead man.

They will probably try him on the other charges---milk him for all he's worth .
it's called closure, and not only for us, but for the millions of Iraqis who suffered under his evil fist.

It needs doing.
 

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The only way this could be a surprise would be if the Iraqi judge's pulled an OJ. Given the chief judge was recently pulled off the case for allegedly going too easy on Saddam, that just isn't going to happen.
 

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It's about time. At least 45,000 Iraqis received their death sentences since the war started, and that is the lowest of the low counts.
 

ProfJohn

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Originally posted by: Craig234
In contrast, the Tim Foley committee has finished its interviewing and could issue the report, they say, but they're holding off until after the election.

And of course, Foley completed his 30 day rehab, but extended that after the election.
The Foley thing is going to be a whitewash no mater when they release it. Congress sucks at policing their own.

Wait till the FBI report comes out for some real facts and details.
 

Craig234

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: Craig234
In contrast, the Tim Foley committee has finished its interviewing and could issue the report, they say, but they're holding off until after the election.

And of course, Foley completed his 30 day rehab, but extended that after the election.
The Foley thing is going to be a whitewash no mater when they release it. Congress sucks at policing their own.

Wait till the FBI report comes out for some real facts and details.

Regardless, having it come out would be a political hit for the repubs; even if it's a whitewash, people could react to that.
 

homercles337

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Originally posted by: palehorse74
He'll get death and that makes me a happier man.

Uh huh, were you also this happy when your leaders put him in power? Gave him weapons? Turned their backs when he "controlled" his people? Im sure your neocon leaders were quite happy back then, but they will likely shed a tear much like a parent would for a child.
 

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Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: Lemon law
Even given Saddam gets the death sentence from a US led sham court---whats the value in just killing Saddam?---no propaganda value in a dead man.

They will probably try him on the other charges---milk him for all he's worth .
it's called closure, and not only for us, but for the millions of Iraqis who suffered under his evil fist.

It needs doing.

Agreed, only instead of closure we have a cheap political stunt. Maybe it will have the desired effect, but the motives are hardly admirable.
 

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Someone should conduct a poll and see if Iraqis think their life would be better if Saddam was still in power.
 

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Given the fact that the US funded 90% of this court, and that regardless of the many judges who have died the "closure" date hasn't changed, I would have to conclude that this is indeed the surprise we have been waiting for.
 

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Originally posted by: Termagant
Someone should conduct a poll and see if Iraqis think their life would be better if Saddam was still in power.
Who gives a sh!t what the Iraqis think, we didn't invade Iraq for their sake..well originally, that reason only came about after there was no WMDs to be found.

 
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Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: Lemon law
Even given Saddam gets the death sentence from a US led sham court---whats the value in just killing Saddam?---no propaganda value in a dead man.

They will probably try him on the other charges---milk him for all he's worth .
it's called closure, and not only for us, but for the millions of Iraqis who suffered under his evil fist.

It needs doing.

How about those suffering in Iraq right now? When do they get their "closure"?
Don't forget, Saddam was a good friend of Rumsfeld, Cheney and others in this crooked administration. They could turn on you too. :)
 

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Originally posted by: ayabe
I know what the punishment will be, Saddam will be appointed president of Iraq and will have to sort this mess out.

Punishment fits the crime right?

lol nice one :D
 

magomago

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Originally posted by: hellokeith
It's about time. Death penalty would be fitting his crimes and would put an once-and-for-all end to any remnant Baathist visions of regaining power.



It is much more complex than that and hints that you don't understand about the situation. Saddam isn't orchestrating anything in his prison cell. Remember - his laywers are the ones getting killed

To kill him would be problematic because it will accomplish nothing. "Closure" isn't achieved by his death - it is a psychological process that takes many many years for people to go through. Still people in my family can't get over what Saddam's "forces" did to them...and the fact that he was killed will not change that at all.

Oh - and Nour Al Maliki needs to shut his trap because if we do any killing he should be right along there with Saddam for putting Iran ahead of Iraq. I swear, we've replaced a set of corrupt leaders with another and we don't even realize it - and the latter are just shills for Iran who simply want to accumulate as much money as possible so they can fly out of the country and live elsewhere.
 

ProfJohn

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Originally posted by: Termagant
Someone should conduct a poll and see if Iraqis think their life would be better if Saddam was still in power.
Already did that, and we had a thread about that poll as well.
Could not be any clearer than this:

61% still think that getting rid of Saddam was worth it "Thinking about any hardships you might have suffered since the US-British invasion, do you personally think that ousting Saddam was worth it or not" 75% of Shia think it was, only 11% of Sunni not surprising since they lost the most.