The job carnage continues - Ford

[tontod]

Ford is cutting between 4K-5K workers. :Q

job cuts at Ford




<< . Ford assembly plants were shown to be last among the U.S. automakers in quality in the J.D. Power initial quality study >>



Got that from the article. Is that a surprise?

 

[iamwiz82]

not really. Ford's motto right now is &quot;bigger is better, period!&quot;

 

[Tiger]

The jobs being eliminated are all white collar jobs and won't begin until December.

 

[LAUST]

Ford assembly plants were shown to be last among the U.S. automakers in quality in the J.D. Power initial quality study

Trust that as far as you can throw it though, JD Power doesn't even know how to operate a Hood Latch.

 

[yakko]

<< Ford is cutting between 4K-5K workers >>

And your point is what?

 

[tontod]

Point is that a lot big, traditional companies are also facing cuts not just tech/high-tech companies.

 

[desy]

The article says its through retirements so not as painful as most of the job cuts have been.
Just culling the work force a little.

 

[Cyberian]

Quality is job 1.1

 

[Lucky]

<< Ford is cutting between 4K-5K workers >>

And your point is what?


Why do you have to be such an ass? As if posting that 5K are losing their jobs isnt point enough?

 

[lo5750ul]

&quot;We are, therefore, announcing today a voluntary separation program for
selected salaried employees in North America. Our goal is to reduce the
number of salaried positions by 4,000-5,000 by the end of 2001. This
will be achieved largely through retirements, but other voluntary
separation programs also will be available.&quot; J Nasser

Please stop diseminating misinformation.

 

[FiDo14DiDo]

Ford is claiming that they don't need these white collar workers because they are running more efficiently. Good thing they didnt say their cars are running more efficiently.

 

[Cyberian]

<< &quot;We are, therefore, announcing today a voluntary separation program for
selected salaried employees in North America. Our goal is to reduce the
number of salaried positions by 4,000-5,000 by the end of 2001. This
will be achieved largely through retirements, but other voluntary
separation programs also will be available.&quot; J Nasser

Please stop diseminating misinformation. >>


Where is the misinformation?



<< Ford is cutting between 4K-5K workers. >>

 

[lo5750ul]

Maybe I should have said that Ford is not cutting jobs but is giving out early retirement packages.

 

[shifrbv]

No matter what the argument, whether it's for retirements, whatever, that's still 4000-5000 jobs that won't be coming back and that young people won't ever be filling which people on the board should be concerned with but don't seem to be.

 

[lo5750ul]

<< No matter what the argument, whether it's for retirements, whatever, that's still 4000-5000 jobs that won't be coming back and that young people won't ever be filling which people on the board should be concerned with but don't seem to be. >>

Your lack of complete punctuation was a little confusing at first. Many of these retirees positions will be filled by younger people getting promoted.

 

[shifrbv]

lo5750ul, it doesn't look like that. The article says that they're cutting salaried management postions to streamline their operations. These aren't core workers, they're people in the middle (management) who can afford to be let go. Many large companies in the US have already done this since the 80's. I suspect some like the automakers held off because of the nature of their business and employees. But now that times are tight, they must act and once those management positions are gone, they don't come back. But even if some of them do, they still won't be at the salary or benefits that the older workers had which is still bad.

 

[lo5750ul]

<< lo5750ul, it doesn't look like that. The article says that they're cutting salaried management postions to streamline their operations. These aren't core workers, they're people in the middle (management) who can afford to be let go. Many large companies in the US have already done this since the 80's. I suspect some like the automakers held off because of the nature of their business and employees. But now that times are tight, they must act and once those management positions are gone, they don't come back. But even if some of them do, they still won't be at the salary or benefits that the older workers had which is still bad. >>

I can assure you without a doubt that some of those positions will be filled by younger people being promoted, though the younger people will be expected to continue their current workload and take on the additional responsibilites of management.

 

[yakko]

<< << Ford is cutting between 4K-5K workers >>

And your point is what?


Why do you have to be such an ass? As if posting that 5K are losing their jobs isnt point enough? >>

More than that lose jobs all the time and get no warning at all so no it is not point enough.

 

[Cyberian]

<< Maybe I should have said that Ford is not cutting jobs but is giving out early retirement packages. >>


Sorry if I sounded rude.
I was involved in a very similar situation when I was with IBM in 1993, and whatever they call it I was still out of a job. I tend to agree with shifrbv that these jobs will never really be replaced.

 

[Train]

boy you guys sure know how to turn a simple article into an argument

 

[lo5750ul]

<< Sorry if I sounded rude. I tend to agree with shifrbv that these jobs will never really be replaced. >>

Hehe, seems we are thinking cross ideas here. I did not think you rude at all. These job cuts are for people who have been at Ford for at least 30 years. Many of them are not in positions of great importance, and those that are will be replaced.

 

[bigdog1218]

i think ford is calling it some bs retirement package so their stock doesn't take as big of a plunge

 

[Viper0329]

Wouldn't doubt it. But it seems many companies are slashing jobs just to stay afloat these days