The Intel Atom Thread

Discussion in 'CPUs and Overclocking' started by Sweepr, Sep 11, 2013.

  1. witeken

    witeken Diamond Member

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    Why would design wins of consoles equal leading edge?
     
  2. Sweepr

    Sweepr Diamond Member

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    Windows 8.1 with Bing Tablet Avalanche Expected in Q3 2014

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    www.digitimes.com/news/a20140528PD205.html
    http://news.softpedia.com/news/Wind...et-Avalanche-Expected-in-Q3-2014-444143.shtml

    Lots of cheaper Bay Trail-T C0 (Windows 8.1 with Bing) tablets coming soon. The 8'' Toshiba Encore 2 will have a starting price of just $199, 10'' Encore 2 tablet starts at $270.
     
  3. IntelUser2000

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    They don't have to, the reason being is they pointed out Bay Trail being originally designed for "PC"(Like Netbooks) is why the BOM was too high for the race-to-the-bottom Tablet market. Hence, the contra-revenue.
     
  4. TrulyUncouth

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    Way to miss my followup or my intentions for posting that. I was poking fun at the tone of his post. There are many reasons other than performance for the chip to be replaced in this particular 2 in 1.

    He even received a notice from mods for his post- don't keep this going please.
     
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  7. witeken

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    According to this article, Intel plans to ship 7.5M tablet chips in Q2, 50% more than the 5M in June and according to Intel's CEO on track to reach its 40M goal.

    They'll need to sell 27.5M chips in H2, more than 2x as much as H1. They'll have to continue selling 50% more chips each quarter (5 + 7.5 + 11.25 + 16.9 = 40.6M). If they want to reach their internal goal, they must sell 100% more (5 + 7.5 + 15 + 30 = 58M).

    Edit: And here's another article about BK admitting it missed mobile.
     
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  9. Sweepr

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    Let's start the Computex 2014 coverage. :)

    Asus Transformer Pad Android tablets go Bay Trail

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    http://liliputing.com/2014/06/asus-introduces-transformer-pad-android-tablet-bay-trail-cpu.html
    www.mobilegeeks.de/computex-2014-asus-transformer-pad-tf303cl-im-hands-on-video

    Zotac goes fanless with Zbox C-series mini-PCs

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    http://techreport.com/news/26534/zotac-goes-fanless-with-zbox-c-series-mini-pcs

    Computex 2014: New Transformer Book V from ASUS

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    Asus FonePad 8 is an 8 inch tablet… that makes phone calls

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    http://liliputing.com/2014/06/asus-fonepad-8-8-inch-tablet-makes-phone-calls.html
    http://press.asus.com/PressReleases...e-for-Consumers-at-Computex-2014#.U4xaWfmwI4N

    Asus unveils new MeMO Pad 7 and 8 inch budget tablets

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    http://liliputing.com/2014/06/asus-unveils-new-memo-pad-7-and-8-inch-budget-tablets.html

    Dell updates its Android Venue 7 & Venue 8 with Intel Merrifield chips

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    http://news.softpedia.com/news/Dell...-CPU-Android-4-4-KitKat-and-More-444808.shtml
     
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  10. bullzz

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    I dont understand bay trail winning these products. merrifield should have a better GPU than bay trail and should be out soon if not already available
     
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    I really believe Broadwell-Y will eat bay trail eventually. I don't understand why atom is really being pursued as an architecture when it's obviously tangential to Broadwell and assuming they improve power usage and tdp to 1-7W you have the option to put Broadwell in tablet formats where even at low clock speeds it will demolish atom.
     
  12. North01

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    Broadwell-Y will be going up against Cherry Trail-T. The big difference will be the price.
     
  13. mikk

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    Exactly this.
     
  14. IntelUser2000

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    Sweepr, they updated the DreamTab with Tegra 4, not Bay Trail. The article is changed.
     
  15. witeken

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    The Asus Book V looks interesting with its Moorefield phone + Broadwell tablet CPUs. I'm looking forward to see how Silvermont does in its first phone and the other Android products. It also seems that Intel17 was right when he speculated that Merrifield might be DOA; it's already replaced by Moorefield.
     
  16. Sweepr

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    130 Intel-powered Android and Windows tablets coming this year

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    http://liliputing.com/2014/06/130-intel-powered-android-windows-tablets-coming-year.html

    Emdoor I8080 Tablet is a $100 Windows 8.1 Tablet with Bay Trail-T

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    http://news.softpedia.com/news/Emdo...indows-8-1-Tablet-with-Bay-Trail-445073.shtml
    www.mobilegeeks.de/computex-2014-emdoor-i8080-100-dollar-tablet-mit-windows-8-1-im-hands-on-video/

    That's insanely cheap for a full Windows 8.1 tablet running quad-core Bay Trail-T. Just as a comparison, HP is showcasing a $100 Android 4.2 tablet packing a much slower Allwinner A31 quad-core Cortex A7 @ Computex.

    Dell Announces New Bay Trail-M based Inspiron 2-In-1 Notebooks And All-In-One

    http://hothardware.com/News/Dell-Announces-New-Inspiron-2In1-Notebooks-And-AllInOne/#ixzz33awrReAs

    Dell Inspiron 11 3000 (Bay Trail-M) Hands-On: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHoLxzXWLwA&feature=youtube_gdata

    ASUS MeMO Pad 7 ME176C 7 - Atom Z3745 Tablet Review - Bay Trail Meets Android

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    www.pcper.com/reviews/Mobile/ASUS-M...m-Z3745-Tablet-Review-Bay-Trail-Meets-Android

    Also...

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    www.bbc.com/news/technology-27677134

    iBox 210 - New ''Bay Trail-M'' Fanless Slimline MicroPC

    www.bvm-store.com/ProductDetail.asp?fdProductId=988

    Thanks, updated.
     
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  17. witeken

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    Moorefield, the 2.33GHz Z3580, is about 25% faster than S801 in AndEBench native and 2.5x faster in the java version. I guess it also consumes considerably lower power as well.

    Intel will suddenly immediately dominate 2014's fastest phones.
     
  18. teejee

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    what phones will use this SOC in 2014? S801 is available in the stores since months and is based on a two year old architecture.
    But I haven't heard about any Merrifield phone yet.
    And remember that a phone SOC is much more than the CPU.
    But it will be interesting to read Anandtechs review and benchmarks when someone makes a phone with it.
     
  19. witeken

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    I dunno, but what I do know is that Intel just killed Qualcomm's Android CPU dominance; Snapdragon isn't the fastest processor anymore. My expectations for design wins (Samsung, Apple, Sony, HTC,...) are low though.
     
  20. teejee

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    you cannot know this until a Merrifield phone is benchmarked and compared with the best Snapdragon phone available at the time (S805 probably).

    And you seem to forget GPU and image DSP. Merrifield has a weak image DSP. This is a major issue for design wins.
    And GPU seems to be slightly weaker than S805.

    And I haven't seen any independent CPU benchmarks either.

    The facts known so far indicates that Merrifield will not be a success (I'm talking about sales volume, not CPU performance).
    Soon the rumours about the Q3/Q4 phones will arrive, if no major Merrifield design wins, then it is a failure.
     
  21. witeken

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    There's also Moorefield. And Moorefield is substantially faster than S801. The 5% clock speed increase of S805 isn't going to change anything. This is a big victory for Intel, even if won't get the number of design wins it ought to have -- and it won't.
     
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    o_O .. never expected to see such a cheap wintel tablet.. thats some serious value for $100
     
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    Haven't been following bay trail stuff for a little bit and all these tablets appear, it appears that the OEMs are using bay-trail T, meerifield and moorefield into their tablets without appreciably different price ranges, my noob question is, Why would anyone use bay-trail T or merrifield when moorefield exists? Maybe for Windows I can understand, but for android, wouldn't moorefield be just the unilaterally better choice, due to the better gpu and higher (max) clock speeds, as well as better design for smaller form factors?
     
  24. Roland00Address

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    Any chance this will have HDMI output? If so don't use it as a tablet, but just use it as a front end that you can grab and go.
     
  25. Sweepr

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    There's mini HDMI. :)

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