The Inquirer-AMD Price Cuts, Clawhammer Info

[JSSheridan]

The article

Excerpts:

AMD will use the 28th of July date to make price changes on its Athlon MP (multiprocessing CPUs), and will also cut prices on Opterons as well as releasing new models.

More intriguingly, while AMD will introduce its Athlon 64 in September, so meeting its promise, the first iteration appears to be a 940 pin socket, according to our information. That will quickly shift to a 939 pin Athlon 64 and AMD will released its "value family" of Athlon 64s with 512K of level two cache and using the more widely expected Socket 754. It hasn't set prices on these introductions yet.

Peace.

 

[magomago]

Wait...so just within a shorter time span people will have to go from socket 940 to 939 to 754

This is even worse than intel...

Am I missing something?

 

[Megatomic]

Originally posted by: magomago
Wait...so just within a shorter time span people will have to go from socket 940 to 939 to 754

This is even worse than intel...

Am I missing something?

Don't get your panties into a bunch over this. This is a report by the Inquirer after all. Wait for a reputable news source to confirm this info before you believe it.

 

[bgeh]

so the Nforce3 will after all be a platform for the Athlon 64?

 

[mechBgon]

Methinks a 939-pin CPU will fit a Socket940 mobo. What do you guys think? And Athlon 64 is Athlon 64, not Opteron, so its Socket754 should be coexisting alongside Socket940.

 

[mechBgon]

Originally posted by: bgeh
so the Nforce3 will after all be a platform for the Athlon 64?

nVidia's official line at their site is that nForce3 Professional is for Opertons. Maybe there will be an nForce3 UnProfessional for the Athlon 64? "nForce3 Expert" perhaps?

 

[ViRGE]

An nForce for the Athlon64 is a given, Nvidia stands to make far too much money from the market not to do it.

 

[Electrode]

Originally posted by: mechBgon
Methinks a 939-pin CPU will fit a Socket940 mobo.

I doubt a 603-pin Xeon would work in a 604-pin mobo, and I doubt a 939-pin Athlon 64 would work in a 940-pin mobo. Sure it'll fit, but I'd imagine it would make a lot of sparks and stuff when power is applied.

 

[Macro2]

RE:"Me thinks a 939-pin CPU will fit a Socket940 mobo. What do you guys think?"

Maybe they just removed one pin to disable MP.
In that case the 939 will fit in the 940 socket and function...

 

[draggoon01]

this is like there being only 2 athlon xp cpu's that use 400 fsb

 

[Chaotic42]

Woooo!!!

Low MP prices!

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: Macro2
RE:"Me thinks a 939-pin CPU will fit a Socket940 mobo. What do you guys think?"

Maybe they just removed one pin to disable MP.
In that case the 939 will fit in the 940 socket and function...

That wouldn't make too much sense, but it is possible. The thing about MP Hammers is that they need extra pins for their Hypertransport connections to the other CPUs, so it doesn't make much sense to produce CPUs in a package like that where AMD would still have to wire in all the HT busses, as it drives up costs. Maybe AMD is doing it anyhow, since it means that they aren't running 2 lines of CPUs, but both senarios seem to be very unusual for AMD.

 

[AdmiralTiger]

To clear something up in here... Athlon 64 with 940 Pin will have 1 MB L2 Cache, A64 with 939 will have 512Kb cache (at least that's what I heard, although it might be misleading since the 512 Kb L2 cache would belong to the Paris core) - the 754 socket will be used for the "value family" of Athlon 64, codenamed Paris. As for the 939-pin A-64, it will work with the 940 pin socket (no new socket required) and it would be easier to stick with the same socket as the Opteron (I think this is a good thing... maybe a bad thing for people who buy Opterons anyway if the A64 is really a de-tuned Opteron).

This little note from the Inquirer seems to put more grounds to the rumors. First, note that a 940 and 939 pin processor would use the same motherboard socket, thus the 1MB chache Athlon 64 on the 940-pin socket and the 512KB cache Athlon 64 on the 939-pin socket would be interchangeable.

In case you were unaware, the Athlon 64 in its 754-pin package was technically unable to run two channels of memory -- moving the processor to the 940/939 pin package would either allow AMD to launch the Athlon 64 with dual-channel DDR support or perhaps upgrade to it later.

In response to what a website posted (www.amdmb.com) about the news thread from Inquirer... the 939 pin 512kb cached Athlon 64 will be a dual channel platform, the 754 would be a single channel.

I hope I cleared several things up... but i think I just created a bit of confusion now. :-/

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: AdmiralTiger
To clear something up in here... Athlon 64 with 940 Pin will have 1 MB L2 Cache, A64 with 939 will have 512Kb cache (at least that's what I heard, although it might be misleading since the 512 Kb L2 cache would belong to the Paris core) - the 754 socket will be used for the "value family" of Athlon 64, codenamed Paris. As for the 939-pin A-64, it will work with the 940 pin socket (no new socket required) and it would be easier to stick with the same socket as the Opteron (I think this is a good thing... maybe a bad thing for people who buy Opterons anyway if the A64 is really a de-tuned Opteron).

This little note from the Inquirer seems to put more grounds to the rumors. First, note that a 940 and 939 pin processor would use the same motherboard socket, thus the 1MB chache Athlon 64 on the 940-pin socket and the 512KB cache Athlon 64 on the 939-pin socket would be interchangeable.

In case you were unaware, the Athlon 64 in its 754-pin package was technically unable to run two channels of memory -- moving the processor to the 940/939 pin package would either allow AMD to launch the Athlon 64 with dual-channel DDR support or perhaps upgrade to it later.

In response to what a website posted (www.amdmb.com) about the news thread from Inquirer... the 939 pin 512kb cached Athlon 64 will be a dual channel platform, the 754 would be a single channel.

I hope I cleared several things up... but i think I just created a bit of confusion now. :-/

actually i thought the 754 was the 512mb, and the 939 would be a latter version of the 940, after EVERYTHING is fixed. maybe the 939 will be single channel, -1 pin to disable it, or just a later version, thats what i heard.

MIKE