The Inline-6 in the new '02 Bravada/TrailBlazer/Envoy is gonna OWN!! ;)

NFS4

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Damn, check out these specs:

[*]270 horsepower
[*]275-lb. ft. of torque at 3600 RPM
[*]displacement of 4.2 Liters
[*]90% peak torque available between 1200 and 5600 RPM
[*]all-aluminum engine


All that damn horsepower from 4.2 liter! Screw a damn V8, they suck up more gas anyway. This thing pumps out more horsepower than Ford's optional 4.6 V8 (which is rated at 230HP/285lb-ft torque). To top it off, it manages to maintain 20.6 MPG!! :D GM may not have the best styling department, but they sure in hell know how to make a great engine. Although the GM engine gives up 10 lb-ft of torque, the inline-6 makes its power at a low 3600RPM, while the Ford V8 needs 4000RPM to reach 285.

My dad is in the market for a new SUV to replace his '97 Explorer XLT (with the 205HP 4.0 SOHC V6), and I was steering him to the new '02 Ford Explorer Eddie Baur. But the new Bravada has some serious balls. I like the IRS of the new Explorer, but that sweet engine in the Bravada is too good to pass up.

I think in the end though that he will pick the Explorer though. It would be his third, and the live rear axle of our current Explorer doesn't make for the best of rides (the Bravada still retains a live rear axle). Comfort over performance is his thing.
 

Jumpem

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I'm waiting for them to put the new straight six in the extended cab Chevy S-10s with the ZR-2 off road package! More horse power than the 4.7L or 5.9L v-8s in the dodge dakotas. A little bit less torque than the 5.9L though. Anyway almost 300HP in a compact truck with a 5 speed. Sccrreeeeeeeeeech!
 
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Jumpem - do you realize how uneffective that engine would be in a lifted truck? It might seem great but when it rolls over in a corner at 65 mph while the ricer speeds away laughing, you'll get the point then

NFS4 - is your dad one of those people who have to have the newest, baddest thing out there? That 97 is at least in my opinion somewhat new. (I'm driving a model-year 88 car, it shall remain unmentioned, so anything above 93 is new to me :( )
 

Windogg

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GM finally beefed up the Blazer/Jimmy/S-10 line. I wonder if they'll dump a supercharger in and bring on the next generation Typhoon/Syclone.

Windogg
 

NFS4

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<< NFS4 - is your dad one of those people who have to have the newest, baddest thing out there? That 97 is at least in my opinion somewhat new. (I'm driving a model-year 88 car, it shall remain unmentioned, so anything above 93 is new to me ) >>


My dad bought a '94 Ford Explorer XLT in January of '96 (had 25,000 miles on it).
He then then traded in the '94 Explorer and got a New '97 Ford Explorer XLT in January of '99 (had 207 miles on it).

When spring of next year rolls around, he'll buy something new. He likes the Expedition, but I told him to back off b/c it is just too big for him and my mom.
 

Linux23

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Actually, the current V6 in that Bravada is pretty strong already, but that new engine will be overkill! Do you have a link where I can read more about that new engine.

I gotta say that the Bravada is the best riding jeep I have ever driven. Yeah, the live axle can be a nuisance, but it didn't really bother me and my family. We rented this jeep for a 7 1/2 hour drive from New Joisee to Virginia, and that jeep has a very smooth ride, and great handling (it was raining cats and dogs)!

If I don't get the A4 or the Maxima, this jeep will be on my wish list next year...
 

Windogg

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<< Actually, the current V6 in that Bravada is pretty strong already, but that new engine will be overkill! Do you have a link where I can read more about that new engine. >>

The Bravada/Blazer/Jimmy/Sonoma all share the same engine.

Windogg
 

NFS4

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<< Actually, the current V6 in that Bravada is pretty strong already, but that new engine will be overkill! Do you have a link where I can read more about that new engine. >>


190HP ain't a lot if you ask me :)

Here's the link, click on 2002 Bravada

The new Bravada is the best looking of the new trio. The Envoy looks like a piece of overdone Pontiac sh!t.
 

Windogg

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<< 190HP ain't a lot if you ask me >>

Agreed, dad test drove the Blazer in 94 and thought that it would have been nice with a V8 or beefier 6.

Windogg
 

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For those automotive classicists out there, a straight 6 is inherently the most balanced of all the engine configurations, and NVH is hot issue in the market wars these days.
 

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<< OWN = dominate, crush, &quot;rape&quot; as used by GUTB >>

I played GUTB in CS the other day, pure coincedence. Talked a lot of smack to him too :p
 

RU482

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...a straight 6 is inherently the most balanced of all the engine configurations...

I've always heard good things about straight 6's. When i was younger, I had a friend who acquired an old beater car with a s-6. That thing would tear ass!!

So, why did they stop making them? Are they expensive to make?

I'd sure like to take one of those bad boys out when the '02's hit the dealers.
 

NFS4

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<< ...a straight 6 is inherently the most balanced of all the engine configurations... >>


Why do you think that BMW still uses them in the &quot;3&quot; and &quot;5&quot;? :)
 

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if i'm not mistaken a straight six is bigger than a v6, which is why the v is popular. it fits under cowls better. but straight ones make better power and sound a whole helluva lot better.
 

thedarkwolf

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&quot;So, why did they stop making them? Are they expensive to make?&quot;

Kinda hard to mount one sideways in a fwd car and still have room for the trans. That and they are tall since they stand straight up but then thats why chrysler made the indestructable slant 6.
 

RU482

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Yeah, I think maybe it was a slant six. Some old 60's car. Man that thing was fun
 

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I've had a couple of cars that had the old GM straight six. Its longer than a small block V8 and very tall but a great engine. Real peppy and godd mileage. Had on in a '79 Camaro that really scoot and still get 24 mpg on the highway.

What perknose said about them being well balanced is correct, they are very smooth and were a workhorse for GM for many years. IMHO a much better engine than a V6 but indeed hard to mount in a front wheel drive.
 

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What!? You are encouraging your parents to get an SUV!? Why don't you knock some sense into them and get a nice Volkswagon Passat or something along those lines. If they need traction its got AWD now. You damn yuppys piss me off.
 

ElFenix

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last i checked a vw passat was pretty close in price to an suv, especially awd...
 

NFS4

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My dad wouldn't be caught dead driving a wagon unless it was an Audi A6 ALLROAD