The Information Technology Association of America says...

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: PingSpike

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: PingSpike

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: SuperTool
Well, at least we know they are not biased

Are you dense? CORPORATIONS HIRE IT PEOPLE. You know...like big big corporations...you know the companies that actually EMPLOY IT people.

Or I could just ask what your point was, since we know it takes Corporations(sometimes really really big ones) to employ IT people.

CkG

Well, I haven't really read them yet and I'm not sure if I agree with Kerry's plan or not yet...but corporations do hire people. The cheapest people they can find. In India.

I get it now, If I invest in these corporations that have goals of making a real proffit,
then I make money and I don't even have to work for it?

If only I had some money to invest, I'd be rich. To bad I can't find a good job to start with.

I suppose you want to make 100K a year coding HTML.

 

[dirtboy]

Hey Cad, when will you learn? People here only want to here doom and gloom news. Any good news is just flatly refuted and ignored. Any bad news is championed and assumed to be worse.

If you want them to be happy, either post bad news or post good news and say it's bogus.

 

[razor2025]

Originally posted by: dirtboy
Hey Cad, when will you learn? People here only want to here doom and gloom news. Any good news is just flatly refuted and ignored. Any bad news is championed and assumed to be worse.

If you want them to be happy, either post bad news or post good news and say it's bogus.

Hey Dirtboy, false good news is just as good as no news. Using BS numbers in hopes to make things look good doesn't improve the situation at all. If you or CAD can provde a news piece from multiple reliable sources regarding how well it's going for the average Joe, then we can all begin to see the positive light, until then, STFU. We're all tired of Corporate America making excuses for their outsourcing.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: razor2025

Originally posted by: dirtboy
Hey Cad, when will you learn? People here only want to here doom and gloom news. Any good news is just flatly refuted and ignored. Any bad news is championed and assumed to be worse.

If you want them to be happy, either post bad news or post good news and say it's bogus.

Hey Dirtboy, false good news is just as good as no news. If the economy for the masses is really improving. Using BS numbers in hopes to make things look good doesn't improve the situation at all. If you or CAD can provde a news piece from multiple reliable sources regarding how well it's going for the average Joe, then we can all begin to see the positive light, until then, STFU. We're all tired of Corporate America making excuses for their outsourcing.

ARe you blind? dave has even posted "good news"(which he tried to post as bad) Oh, and "outsourcing" has been going on for a long time and has only created more drive for invention and progression of our job markets.

So yes - STFU until you can do something other than whine like a child about "outsourcing" and crying about "Corporate America"(who employs you)

CkG

 

[dirtboy]

Originally posted by: razor2025

Originally posted by: dirtboy
Hey Cad, when will you learn? People here only want to here doom and gloom news. Any good news is just flatly refuted and ignored. Any bad news is championed and assumed to be worse.

If you want them to be happy, either post bad news or post good news and say it's bogus.

Hey Dirtboy, false good news is just as good as no news. Using BS numbers in hopes to make things look good doesn't improve the situation at all. If you or CAD can provde a news piece from multiple reliable sources regarding how well it's going for the average Joe, then we can all begin to see the positive light, until then, STFU. We're all tired of Corporate America making excuses for their outsourcing.

And you wonder why people like yourself have their jobs outsourced. Everything is BS unless it is bad.

 

[dirtboy]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

ARe you blind? dave has even posted "good news"(which he tried to post as bad) Oh, and "outsourcing" has been going on for a long time and has only created more drive for invention and progression of our job markets.

Yes, but I just assumed it was bogus because it was good.

 

[Fern]

From CkG " Oh, and "outsourcing" has been going on for a long time "

That's prolly the first factual comment I've heard since the media recently "discovered" outsourcing. In the mid 80's and early 90's I worked (in Paris, London, Berlin etc.) as an International Tax CPA with large multinationals as clients. Outsourcing was all the rage then. Funny how during this period the US had such a successful and expanding economy.

 

[BugsBunny1078]

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: BugsBunny1078

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: SuperTool
Well, at least we know they are not biased

Are you dense? CORPORATIONS HIRE IT PEOPLE. You know...like big big corporations...you know the companies that actually EMPLOY IT people.

Or I could just ask what your point was, since we know it takes Corporations(sometimes really really big ones) to employ IT people.

CkG

You going somewhere with this? Yeah they hire people. So what? I work for a big corporation. Am I supposed to be all happy and cheerful about outsourcing my job now?
The point is their member companies want to hire people in India, instead of the US, and that's what this group supports. No surprise there.

Maybe you should actually read the report's summary then Maybe you'll see why it isn't all "doom and gloom" on the outsourcing front. I don't neccessarily fully agree with their points but I can see the argument they present in their summary does refute some of the "outsourcing is teh eval" rhetoric that is tossed around. Anyway - please actually read what they say before trying to comment further.

CkG

I can easily refute any point no matter how valid.For every issue each side needs to puto ut their arguments. Not to argue but so each sides supporters have something to read and quote when confronted on the topic. Its still all bullshit.

On a side note, learn to use commas, apostrophies and coherent sentences. I read that twice and still have no clue what you are trying to say.

Maybe you have no understanding of English grammar.

 

[SuperTool]

Originally posted by: Fern
From CkG " Oh, and "outsourcing" has been going on for a long time "

That's prolly the first factual comment I've heard since the media recently "discovered" outsourcing. In the mid 80's and early 90's I worked (in Paris, London, Berlin etc.) as an International Tax CPA with large multinationals as clients. Outsourcing was all the rage then. Funny how during this period the US had such a successful and expanding economy.

It was so successful and expanding that Bush 1 got thrown out of office

 

[BugsBunny1078]

From 88-92 the economy was terrible. It was so bad that when Bush Jr came into power the economy hid in its shell like a turtle. Just the name Bush was enough to scare people into holding onto all of their money. That is the real reason behind our current recession. When Kerry is elected and takes power everything will begin to boom again.