The illusion (lies?) of the Right (or is it ours?)

flexy

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I didn't watch the interview entirely, I merely looked at the article on CNN where they interviewed Steve Bannon.

Dick Cheney. Darth Vader. Satan. That's power. It only helps us when they (liberals) get it wrong. When they're blind to who we are and what we're doing"

"I'm a nationalist. I'm an economic nationalist.
The globalists gutted the American working class and created a middle class in Asia. The issue now is about Americans looking to not get f---ed over. If (the Trump White House delivers), we'll get 60 percent of the white vote, and 40 percent of the black and Hispanic vote and we'll govern for 50 years. That's what the Democrats missed. They were talking to these people with companies with a $9 billion market cap employing nine people. It's not reality. They lost sight of what the world is about."

I don't dislike Trumpers (or the Reps) because they are Trump supporters or because they are Reps. I could EVEN accept that they have nationalist views, to an extent, even if I personally don't support these views.

I dislike them because I am convinced that these people are NOT (against their claims) "for the common people" and I see these Rightwingers (let's call them picture-book capitalists) ALSO (and in particular) responsible for fucking over people, and not only as he says "the globalists". (In fact, behind most globalists who are fucking over people is probably a picture book conservative capitalist)

Bannon and the rest of the gang actually try desperately to come across like socialists. Oh yes, why would we need Bernie or whoever lefty ..if we have these "great" folks in Trump Tower who are so incredibly concerned about jobs, "the common man", the economy etc.

Basically, what he is promising (as ANY party does) is paradise in the US. If they would really manage to create "a paradise" as they claim, and I would actually believe this, heck yeah I would support them. Why should I or anyone else sane be against "more jobs, a better economy, less terrorism, less violence" and whatever. Heck they could slap a fricking Swastika on their suits and I would likely support them, AS LONG as they would create jobs, a better economy or whatever.

But I don't believe any of this. Not a single word. I don't believe that the Reps or Trump care about the middle class. He says "we get it wrong" and we're blind to what they're doing.

So yes, then so be it. I am blind since I cannot see how Trump and the old, bigot farts they are assembling currently "can make America great again". I am blind because I don't believe that Trump, Pence or Bannon are incarnations of Sanders in disguise, AS THEY WANT TO MAKE PEOPLE BELIEVE.

For me, the Reps and Trump represent the 0,1%. All they do is beating on the long-dead and rotten trickle down horse cadaver, trying to revive it and try to convince people that it's actually alive and that it can win any race.

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A few days ago someone made a fitting comment here somewhere. Basically saying that EACH of the two parties in the US is really nothing more than BS. Empty promises and BS, whether from the Dems or the Reps.

It's a cycle of people getting pissed off with ONE party after 4 years or 8 years (and who would blame them?) and then in desperation....do the obvious thing, vote "for the other party". Then the cycle repeats. 4 or 8 years later people are pissed again, and then they vote for the others again. Each and ever time, the one party OF COURSE blames everything on "the others" and promises to make things better. Rinse and repeat. And this cycle will go on and on and on. Of course, nothing will get done, except that one set of monkeys and liars and corrupt politicians is replaced by the other.
 

agent00f

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From his previous speeches it's safe to say Bannon is basically looking to establish a new ethnocentric christian america united in a crusade against islam:
http://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...trump-chief-strategist-steve-bannon-worldview

If folks here notice the people whose brains contain nothing but Breitbart are open if not enthused about the idea of ethnically cleansing them.

Also worth highlighting that he looks up to putin's successful (and hopefully shared in time) nationalism.
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His more recent plan for massive gov spending to enrich presumably his followers first is basically straight up fascism. From the remarks of trump sorts or close enough on the forum, they pretty much all support this, which puts paid to the lie they've told all these years about fiscal conservative; they've always been looking to get paid, spending cuts are for the brownies.
 

cubby1223

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A few days ago someone made a fitting comment here somewhere. Basically saying that EACH of the two parties in the US is really nothing more than BS. Empty promises and BS, whether from the Dems or the Reps.

It's a cycle of people getting pissed off with ONE party after 4 years or 8 years (and who would blame them?) and then in desperation....do the obvious thing, vote "for the other party". Then the cycle repeats. 4 or 8 years later people are pissed again, and then they vote for the others again. Each and ever time, the one party OF COURSE blames everything on "the others" and promises to make things better. Rinse and repeat. And this cycle will go on and on and on. Of course, nothing will get done, except that one set of monkeys and liars and corrupt politicians is replaced by the other.
Read this last section again, and try to think about why Trump did so well this year. A vote for Trump was in a way also a vote against Republicans. Then liberals got made because they assumed anyone who didn't want to vote Republican would automatically choose to swing over to voting Democrat and Hillary, and were wrong.
 

agent00f

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Read this last section again, and try to think about why Trump did so well this year. A vote for Trump was in a way also a vote against Republicans. Then liberals got made because they assumed anyone who didn't want to vote Republican would automatically choose to swing over to voting Democrat and Hillary, and were wrong.

In the gop primaries the metric that really stood out was the massive difference in the level of racial resentment between trump and other candidate's supporters: https://thewpsa.wordpress.com/2016/03/27/racial-resentment-and-the-rise-of-donald-trump/

Not exactly surprising given the rhetoric they were attracted to.

In fact the current tacit support for Bannon's vision for america is hardly surprising either.