The Identifying Characteristics of Fascism

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THE IDENTIFYING CHARACTERISTICS OF FASCISM

By Dr. Lawrence Britt
Free Inquiry Magazine / Spring 2003

Dr. Lawrence Britt, a political scientist, studied the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia), and Pinochet (Chile). He found the regimes all had 14 things in common, and he calls these the identifying characteristics of fascism. The article is titled 'Fascism Anyone?', and appears in Free Inquiry's Spring 2003 issue on page 20.

The 14 characteristics are:

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism -- Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights -- Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need". The people tend to 'look the other way' or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause -- The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial, ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

4. Supremacy of the Military -- Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

5. Rampant Sexism -- The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.

6. Controlled Mass Media-- Sometimes the media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or through sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in wartime, is very common.

7. Obsession with National Security -- Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

8. Religion and Government are Intertwined -- Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.

9. Corporate Power is Protected-- The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

10. Labor Power is Suppressed -- Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely or are severely suppressed.

11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts -- Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.

12. [/u]Obsession with Crime and Punishment[/u] -- Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses, and even forego civil liberties, in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption -- Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions, and who use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

14. Fraudulent Elections-- Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against (or even the assassination of) opposition candidates, the use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and the manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

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Everybody now, let's sing God Bless...
 

Zebo

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Now you know why people refer to the ditto-monkeys as fascists.

Laid out here a hundred times a day. If the shoe fits then wear it.

Better watch it though, they'll refer to thier estemed "Godwins Law", a blogger no less LOL, if you call them on it.


 

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Originally posted by: GrGr
THE IDENTIFYING CHARACTERISTICS OF FASCISM

By Dr. Lawrence Britt
Free Inquiry Magazine / Spring 2003

Dr. Lawrence Britt, a political scientist, studied the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia), and Pinochet (Chile). He found the regimes all had 14 things in common, and he calls these the identifying characteristics of fascism. The article is titled 'Fascism Anyone?', and appears in Free Inquiry's Spring 2003 issue on page 20.

The 14 characteristics are:

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism -- Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

Have you paid attention to where Bush makes appearances?

2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights -- Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need". The people tend to 'look the other way' or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

Can you say Podilla?

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause -- The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial, ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

Can you say Bush & Blair?

4. Supremacy of the Military -- Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

Can you say Rummy?

5. Rampant Sexism -- The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.

Poor Candie and Collie...

6. Controlled Mass Media-- Sometimes the media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or through sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in wartime, is very common.

Can you say Clear Channel?

7. Obsession with National Security -- Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

Can you say Homeland Security?

8. Religion and Government are Intertwined -- Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.

Can you say Athiest Judges?

9. Corporate Power is Protected-- The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

Can you say Cheney?

10. Labor Power is Suppressed -- Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely or are severely suppressed.

Can you say Lobbyists?

11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts -- Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.

Poor NPR, have to rely on dead people to survive.

12. [/u]Obsession with Crime and Punishment[/u] -- Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses, and even forego civil liberties, in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

Can you say Patriot Acts?

13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption -- Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions, and who use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

Can you say Enron, Haliburton?

14. Fraudulent Elections-- Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against (or even the assassination of) opposition candidates, the use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and the manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

Can you say Diebold?
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Everybody now, let's sing God Bless...
and you can't do that, God does not exist.
 

Bowfinger

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This rolled off the front page way too fast.

Great find, GrGr. I take heat for referring to the Bush-lite administration as neo-facists. I know it carries unpleasant connotations, but I sincerely think it is an accurate label. Even many conservatives acknowledge that Bush&Co aren't really conservative. Many of them are getting angry about it. Totalitarian is similar, but it implies a dictatorship (not there yet) and state control of business, if not outright ownership.

How about it, all you folks on the right? Do you think "conservative" is an accurate label for Bush&Co? If not, what does match?
 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
I see one that doesn't apply (5) and one that is debatable (6), so this is proof that Bush & Co. are in fact NOT fascists. :)
Agreed re. 5 & 6. Note: whatever you do, don't comment on the parallels. AT will have to buy more bandwidth.

:)
 

alchemize

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Look! Dean is guilty of #1! Fascist! ;)
He's practically draping himself in the flag!

OMG He's a fear mongerer too! And he's in bed with the defense budget!

"I do not favor decreasing the Pentagon budget"
"The Dean Homeland Security plan provides for a comprehensive approach to the terrorist threat that will most certainly continue to plague the U.S. in the years ahead. In addition to increased military, intelligence, and police focus on offensive operation against terrorists"
A plague!!!!

lessee, he's guilty of #1, 3, 4, 7, 8 (see dave's atheist thread), 9 (just small and medium business instead of big business), 10 (not many unions at small and medium businesses), 12 "I support federal programs to help local police departments and courts implement effective strategies against crime. I believe that serious violent offenders must serve long periods of incarceration. ", 13 (Maybe if he'd open his records, he could prove he isn't)

9/14, he's a fascist.
 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: alchemize
Look! Dean is guilty of #1! Fascist! ;)
He's practically draping himself in the flag!

OMG He's a fear mongerer too! And he's in bed with the defense budget!

"I do not favor decreasing the Pentagon budget"
"The Dean Homeland Security plan provides for a comprehensive approach to the terrorist threat that will most certainly continue to plague the U.S. in the years ahead. In addition to increased military, intelligence, and police focus on offensive operation against terrorists"
A plague!!!!

lessee, he's guilty of #1, 3, 4, 7, 8 (see dave's atheist thread), 9 (just small and medium business instead of big business), 10 (not many unions at small and medium businesses), 12 "I support federal programs to help local police departments and courts implement effective strategies against crime. I believe that serious violent offenders must serve long periods of incarceration. ", 13 (Maybe if he'd open his records, he could prove he isn't)

9/14, he's a fascist.
Uh huh. So, then, you're thinking Kucinich?
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: alchemize
Look! Dean is guilty of #1! Fascist! ;)
He's practically draping himself in the flag!

OMG He's a fear mongerer too! And he's in bed with the defense budget!

"I do not favor decreasing the Pentagon budget"
"The Dean Homeland Security plan provides for a comprehensive approach to the terrorist threat that will most certainly continue to plague the U.S. in the years ahead. In addition to increased military, intelligence, and police focus on offensive operation against terrorists"
A plague!!!!

lessee, he's guilty of #1, 3, 4, 7, 8 (see dave's atheist thread), 9 (just small and medium business instead of big business), 10 (not many unions at small and medium businesses), 12 "I support federal programs to help local police departments and courts implement effective strategies against crime. I believe that serious violent offenders must serve long periods of incarceration. ", 13 (Maybe if he'd open his records, he could prove he isn't)

9/14, he's a fascist.
Uh huh. So, then, you're thinking Kucinich?
Heh...nah I'm a lieberman kind of guy if I was going to swing that way. I don't mind liberalism, just not when it comes to terror.

 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Uh huh. So, then, you're thinking Kucinich?
Heh...nah I'm a lieberman kind of guy if I was going to swing that way. I don't mind liberalism, just not when it comes to terror.
I'd take Lieberman over Bush, but he's not my first choice. If I had to vote Republican, I'd take McCain over Lieberman any day.

;)
 

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seems to me this guy wrote the article to pratically fit the political climate in the US.
so, no, i dont think that is a good article because, despite the author 'studying previous facist regimes' the only ones mentioned that were truly facist were Mussolini's, Franco's, and to a lesser extent Suharto's. Hitler was a socialist and Pinochet was a right wing militarist.

and i dont see how #8 applies to Nazi Germany, militaristic Chile and Indonesia at all and to a lesser extent Facist Italy. I also fail to see how it applies to the US right now.

id also have to agree that #'s 5 and 6 dont apply to the US [for now anyway.]

id also have to say that #'s 2, 11, and 14 either dont apply or are debateable. just remember before you make your argument for #2 that it says human rights and not civil liberties.
 

dirtboy

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This is a fantastic list and looks very true.

If it is being used to show that the US is a or is becoming facist, then it is being inappropriately applied. If anything, that list goes to show what a great nation we have, because we don't meet any one of those criteria.
 

lowfatbaconboy

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Originally posted by: dirtboy
This is a fantastic list and looks very true.

If it is being used to show that the US is a or is becoming facist, then it is being inappropriately applied. If anything, that list goes to show what a great nation we have, because we don't meet any one of those criteria.
*Cough*
7. Obsession with National Security -- Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
WMD and the war on Iraq?

the entire list doesn't fit the US but some of it does or comes close.......
its like the DSM IV....you don't have to have every symptom to be diagnosed with whatever

i wouldn't exactly go as far as to call bush fascist or the country facist
but we are being a little bit imperialistic with our ...."lets play the world police"....and crush anything that opposes us unless they have alot of nuclear weapons or have china backing them.... :p
 

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Originally posted by: lowfatbaconboy
Originally posted by: dirtboy
This is a fantastic list and looks very true.

If it is being used to show that the US is a or is becoming facist, then it is being inappropriately applied. If anything, that list goes to show what a great nation we have, because we don't meet any one of those criteria.
*Cough*
7. Obsession with National Security -- Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
WMD and the war on Iraq?

the entire list doesn't fit the US but some of it does or comes close.......
its like the DSM IV....you don't have to have every symptom to be diagnosed with whatever

i wouldn't exactly go as far as to call bush fascist or the country facist
but we are being a little bit imperialistic with our ...."lets play the world police"....and crush anything that opposes us unless they have alot of nuclear weapons or have china backing them.... :p
You can take any list of requirements and make them fit anything you want to prove your beliefs.

Perhaps you forgot, but last year America suffered its largest attack. Our national security has been lacking. People come and go from this country illegally all the time. I'd like to know why we weren't doing something about this years ago.

Like most things in life, people won't change unless something drastic happens. We were attacked and now we have to take drastic actions to protect ourselves, so we are taking actions to secure our borders. Maybe you disagree and you are free to, but personally, I never want to see another attack on the US like Pearl Harbor or 9/11.

Someone or someone(s) in the current administration had what appears to have bad information on the WMD. If you look back, all the information they were gathering from their sources showed there were WMDs. Did our agents make a mistake? Did our informants legitimately believe there were WMDs and pass forward bad info? Did Saddam and his regime put up a front by letting people in his ranks think they had WMDs? Did Saddam want his enemies to think he had WMDs so they wouldn't attack out of fear?

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And if we were really imperialistic, I think our military would be rolling into Korea, China and so on right now, but it doesn't look like that's happening.
 

lowfatbaconboy

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only reason we aren't rolling into korea is b/c that would most likely piss off china....and they have 1billion people plus nukes......

but we are being a little bit imperialistic with our ...."lets play the world police"....and crush anything that opposes us unless they have alot of nuclear weapons or have china backing them....
um ya read before ya post......

and im not saying full blown imperialism (slightly imperialistic at most)........the first war with iraq was more about oil than anything else IMO

well taking drastic action to protect ourselves is gona turn into us trying to destroy every terrorist threat against the US.....which is alot of the middle east and many other countries........ which would seem a bit more imperialistic (this looks like the direction we are heading at this rate)
 

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Originally posted by: Bowfinger
This rolled off the front page way too fast.

Great find, GrGr. I take heat for referring to the Bush-lite administration as neo-facists. I know it carries unpleasant connotations, but I sincerely think it is an accurate label. Even many conservatives acknowledge that Bush&Co aren't really conservative. Many of them are getting angry about it. Totalitarian is similar, but it implies a dictatorship (not there yet) and state control of business, if not outright ownership.

How about it, all you folks on the right? Do you think "conservative" is an accurate label for Bush&Co? If not, what does match?
Come on Bush supporters, stand up and answer the question :p

Is Bush conservative, ultra-conservative, reactionary , fascist (right wing authoritarian) or a progressive Reaganite perhaps or something else?
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: GrGr
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
This rolled off the front page way too fast.

Great find, GrGr. I take heat for referring to the Bush-lite administration as neo-facists. I know it carries unpleasant connotations, but I sincerely think it is an accurate label. Even many conservatives acknowledge that Bush&Co aren't really conservative. Many of them are getting angry about it. Totalitarian is similar, but it implies a dictatorship (not there yet) and state control of business, if not outright ownership.

How about it, all you folks on the right? Do you think "conservative" is an accurate label for Bush&Co? If not, what does match?
Come on Bush supporters, stand up and answer the question :p

Is Bush conservative, ultra-conservative, reactionary , fascist (right wing authoritarian) or a progressive Reaganite perhaps or something else?
Republican matches pretty well. I think we could probably list about 100 issues where there was a more extreme position to be taken. I also listed 9 examples of how Dean meets the criteria.

So this thread, and the "article", is really just a poorly disguised troll that everyone keeps trying to bring back to life. Why spend time dissecting a troll's argument?
 

BaliBabyDoc

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the entire list doesn't fit the US but some of it does or comes close.......
its like the DSM IV....you don't have to have every symptom to be diagnosed with whatever
Yep Leo Kanner described autism in 1938 (published in 1943). Hans Asperger described a similar phenomenon in children with otherwise normal intelligence in 1944. Asperger Syndrome has been characterized as High Functioning Autism (HFA), Pervasive Developmental Disorder-Not Otherwise Specified (PDD-NOS), and Nonverbal Learning Disability (NLD).

My point . . . a rose by any other name would smell as sweet . . . while Bush, the Lesser presides over a dysfunctional, militant, jingoist nation.
 

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you have more religious, economic, political, social freedom here than any other country in the world.
people are not clamoring to emigrant to anywhere in africa that i know of, nobody clamoring to emigrate to Russia or china (well, maybe the N. Koreans are, but anything would be better than that). Our two closest neighbors, Mexico and Canada, both have their people emigrating in droves to the U.S.

if it sucks here so bad, how come everyone wants to come here?

please identify by name a country where you believe the overall situation is "superior"
i will be interested in your answers to this question.
 

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Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
you have more religious, economic, political, social freedom here than any other country in the world.
people are not clamoring to emigrant to anywhere in africa that i know of, nobody clamoring to emigrate to Russia or china (well, maybe the N. Koreans are, but anything would be better than that). Our two closest neighbors, Mexico and Canada, both have their people emigrating in droves to the U.S.

if it sucks here so bad, how come everyone wants to come here?

please identify by name a country where you believe the overall situation is "superior"
i will be interested in your answers to this question.
A post by heartsurgeon I agree with 100%.
 

Zebo

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if it sucks here so bad, how come everyone wants to come here?

please identify by name a country where you believe the overall situation is "superior"
How about you please identify where you pull this little "factiod" out first; "everyone wants to come here" I call BS.

It's an all inclusive term, "everyone", which is an impossibility since there are hundreds of thousands of expatriots in france, australia, New Zealand etc.. Theres even a web site dedicated to expats which helps them along the way.

What we really need for an accurate portrail of disirabilty of a particular country is:

Country Population/immigrant application ratio for every couontry in question. Until such time your post is totally vapid.

 

BaliBabyDoc

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you have more religious, economic, political, social freedom here than any other country in the world.
Curiously our religious freedom is becoming progressively a function of how much Christianity do you want. The actions of the Bush regime and duplicitous Congress will likely saddle future generations with debt of epic proportions . . . bye bye economic freedom. Patriot Act I started the ball rolling, but Bush is phasing in Patriot Act II on the DL. Social freedom?? Many in our country (in particular the elected zealots) want to deny homosexuals in committed relationships to marry one another while we spend billions following the exploits of promiscuous Friends and a bevy of abby normal reality shows about arranged, contrived relationships. Don't forget the colored children going with white children to the prom . . . Strom didn't.

if it sucks here so bad, how come everyone wants to come here?
It's called descent into the abyss. Our country has wonderful potential but it's being wasted on blowing crap up . . . for the good of the children of course.:disgust:

please identify by name a country where you believe the overall situation is "superior"
i will be interested in your answers to this question.
At the moment I would be hard-pressed to name any country that has more potential than America (with the exception of China . . . after Taiwan re-takes the mainland) ;). But in the real world, IMHO . . . America is losing itself under the weight of BS delusions of perpetual global domination. The "All-You-Can-Eat" ethos is weakening America. So the point isn't about America being better than fill in the blank. The Patriot Act, carte blanche for corporations . . . you know the ones that killed regulations for prohibiting the use of "downer" cows, and the general disregard this administration shows for the Constitution and innocent human beings living in other countries . . . are not leading up to our finest hour.

And no I'm not moving . . . but all of my children will be born with the option of alternative citizenship.
 

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