The hell? Fox News is a "most trusted brand"?????

Jeff7

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One-quarter of consumers abandoned a news source over the past year because they lost trust in its reporting, according to a new survey that also found the BBC, Fox News and Al Jazeera the most trusted brands in their respective home regions.


Unfortunately the article doesn't go into much more detail on the Fox News thing....but again. What the hell????
 

ntdz

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Originally posted by: Jeff7
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One-quarter of consumers abandoned a news source over the past year because they lost trust in its reporting, according to a new survey that also found the BBC, Fox News and Al Jazeera the most trusted brands in their respective home regions.


Unfortunately the article doesn't go into much more detail on the Fox News thing....but again. What the hell????

Who do you trust? MSNBC?
 

judasmachine

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Geez why do people trust anyone in power? Fox is almost a mouthpiece for the government propaganda, which should make them the most questioned source of information short of the governments own webpages. NPR gets my vote as most trusted, but I even take that with a ton of salt.
 

eilute

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I think all the major television networks, including Fox News, are reasonably accurate with their facts. If Fox bothers you, maybe it is because you are watching their opinionated non-news programming and not their news. There is a difference.
 

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Originally posted by: eilute
I think all the major television networks, including Fox News, are reasonably accurate with their facts. If Fox bothers you, maybe it is because you are watching their opinionated non-news programming and not their news. There is a difference.

Fox reports actual news about as often as MTV plays music
 

joshw10

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Also keep in mind that while according to this poll Fox is the most "trusted" news source, only 11% of Americans named it as such.

In comparison, 59% of Egyptians said Al Jazeera and 32% of Britons said the BBC
 

trenchfoot

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above all, fox new's primary purpose is that of being the propaganda arm for the neocons while using the deilvery of news as cover. consequently, in order to propagandize effectively they must first of all appear trustworthy. they are, therefore, in the "trust business". whereas, other news channels are primarily set up to deliver as advertized.

they use the consistent delivery of the same underlying message through the broadcasting of "fair and balanced" news on a day to day basis, which to me lends an air of reliability to a typical viewer. reliability can easily be misconstrued as trust, especially from the unwary.

i'm sure fox news employs the best marketing minds that madison avenue has to offer. like any seasoned used car salesman knows, these marketing pros employed by fox understand and fully exploit the idea that once you have gained a person's trust, you can sell them just about anything.

*edit* - thanks future shock & legendkiller for the info :thumbsup:
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Jeff7
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One-quarter of consumers abandoned a news source over the past year because they lost trust in its reporting, according to a new survey that also found the BBC, Fox News and Al Jazeera the most trusted brands in their respective home regions.


Unfortunately the article doesn't go into much more detail on the Fox News thing....but again. What the hell????
Hell the American People voted Bush in so what do you expect?
 

Future Shock

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Originally posted by: tweaker2

i'm sure fox news employs the best marketing minds that wall street has to offer. like any seasoned used car salesman knows, these marketing pros employed by fox understand and fully exploit the idea that once you have gained a person's trust, you can just about sell them anything.

Just to be pedantic:

Madison Avenue is the traditional home of Advertising and Marketing firms in NYC, and is used as a reference to them -- the "Madison Avenue executive" is always an ad man. In truth, many have moved off Madison Avenue proper, although most are still located in MidTown Manhattan.

Wall Street is where you find the investment and stock trading exchanges. A "Wall St. exec" is always anThey are fairly far apart (in Manhattan terms) geographically too, with Wall St. being on the very southern tip of the island.

FS
 

LegendKiller

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Originally posted by: Future Shock
Originally posted by: tweaker2

i'm sure fox news employs the best marketing minds that wall street has to offer. like any seasoned used car salesman knows, these marketing pros employed by fox understand and fully exploit the idea that once you have gained a person's trust, you can just about sell them anything.

Just to be pedantic:

Madison Avenue is the traditional home of Advertising and Marketing firms in NYC, and is used as a reference to them -- the "Madison Avenue executive" is always an ad man. In truth, many have moved off Madison Avenue proper, although most are still located in MidTown Manhattan.

Wall Street is where you find the investment and stock trading exchanges. They are fairly far apart (in Manhattan terms) geographically too, with Wall St. being on the very southern tip of the island.

FS


Considering one of the worlds largest i-banks is located around mid-town Madison (Credit-Suisse) that isn't completely true.
 

CaptnKirk

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FOX delivers their pablum aimed at the lowest common denominator - the 34% who suck up to the Bush Administration.
Remember that - the AVERAGE AMERICAN . . . and half the population is even dumber than that.

Now again, those who want their paranoid, baseless fears and their biggoted, spiteful view of the world re-inforced
will seek the News outlet that provides them the coverage that they want - regardless of the truth or facts.

FOX is nothing less than a semi-official house organ style mouthpeice for the GOP Agenda, it was built that way.
 

CaptnKirk

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Ironic isn't it.
Todays Washington Post has an article about the FOX influence

<CLIP>

We report. You decide. Does President Bush owe his controversial win in 2000 to Fox cable television news?

Yes, suggest data collected by two economists who found that the growth of the Fox cable news network in the late 1990s
may have significantly boosted the Republican Party's share of the vote in the 2000 election and delivered Florida to Bush.

"Our estimates imply that Fox News convinced 3 to 8 percent of its audience to shift its voting behavior towards the Republican Party,
a sizable media persuasion effect," said Stefano DellaVigna of the University of California at Berkely and Ethan Kaplan of Stockholm University.

In Florida alone, they estimate, the Fox effect may have produced more than 10,000 additional votes for Bush --
clearly a decisive factor in a state he carried by fewer than 600 votes.

Fox cable news debuted in 1996 as a competitor to CNN and four years later was available to about one in five Americans.
That allowed DellaVigna and Kaplan to compare changes in the Republican vote shar efrom 1996 to 2000 in 9,256 cities and towns
where Fox News was introduced. They also examined election cdata from 2004.

The Experiment: The Fox Effect II

We experiment. You decide: Do people apply a political litmus test to the news?

Yes, suggest the results of the latest online experiment by The Washington Post, washingtonpost.com and
Stanford University's political communication lab.

The test found Republicans preferred to get their news from Fox -- even when the news stories were about subjects
far removed from politics, such as sports or travel.

On the other hand, Democrats avoided Fox when it came to political news and preferred National Public Radio and CNN.
And when the news focused on controversial issues such as the Iraq war and politics,
"partisans are especially likely to screen out sources they consider opposed to their political views,"
said Stanford professor Shanto Iyengar, director of the communication lab.

More than 2,000 people participated in the test of whether attention to the identical news story was increased or decreased
when the story was attributed to Fox News, NPR, CNN or the BBC. Participants saw a brief headline accompanied by
the logo of the news organization. They were asked to choose which story they wanted to see, then repeated the task across six news categories --
American politics, the war in Iraq, race in America, crime, travel and sports.

There was one twist: Some participants saw a story attributed to Fox, whereas others saw the same story attributed to CNN, NPR or the BBC.
Comparing the percentage of Democrats who chose to see a story about race if it was on Fox vs. CNN offered clues about whether partisanship mattered.

The results found strong evidence that people apply a political litmus test to the news, avoiding sources they view as unfriendly while seeking out compatible sources,
a finding confirmed by researchers at Polimetrix in a national study with a representative sample of adults done in cooperation with the Stanford lab.

The Republicans even preferred to get news about sports and travel from Fox while Democrats didn't have as strong a preference on non-political stories, Iyengar found.

Reference sub-set

Git 'Er Done!


 

ITJunkie

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Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
FOX delivers their pablum aimed at the lowest common denominator - the 34% who suck up to ther Bush Administration.
Remember that - the AVERAGE AMERICAN . . . and half ther population is even dumber than that.

Now again, those who want their paranoid, baseless fears and their biggoted, spiteful view of the world re-inforced
will seek the News outlet that provides them the coverage that they want - regardless of the truth or facts.

FOX is nothing less than a semi-official house organ style mouthpeice for the GOP Agenda, it was built that way.

'nuff said....
 

EagleKeeper

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The other bigbrands also became smeared with some of "false" stories that they generated during the presidential election.

That tarnished their reputation.

I do not remember that Fox has had a similar scandal recently.

The negative impacts will well outway the positive/neutral impacts when it comes to public perception.
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: Jeff7
Fox News is a "most trusted brand"?????
Of course! With pea brains like O'Reilly, I know I can always trust Faux to spin, fold, bend and otherwise distort the news to suit their blatantly obvious agenda.

It's good to know I can always trust Faux to be exactly what it is. A real, factual news source is not what I expect from them. :laugh:
 

Fern

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: Jeff7
Fox News is a "most trusted brand"?????
Of course! With pea brains like O'Reilly, I know I can always trust Faux to spin, fold, bend and otherwise distort the news to suit their blatantly obvious agenda.

Not to pick on Harvey, but this a common problem here (confusing news reporting with opinion pieces or shows) and then complaining about it. O'Reilly is NOT a news broadcast. It's an "opinion" show, a show about HIS opinion. So of course you're gonna hear him "spin, fold, bend and otherwise distort the news to suit his blatantly obvious agenda" as he likes.

It stoopid - like going to the Op-Ed section of the newspaper and complaining it's full of opinions and not the "just the news" :disgust:

While we do have instances of op-ed pieces masqurading as "news", that's not the case with shows like O'Reilly or Hardball etc. They are upfront about what they are. Just as the Op-Ed section is.

Fern

 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Jeff7
Topic Title: The hell? Fox News is a "most trusted brand"?????

Unfortunately the article doesn't go into much more detail on the Fox News thing....but again. What the hell????

Never underestimate the power of brainwashing.

The Republicans and Murdock have mastered it better in my opinion than 1930's Germany because you are talking about a more massive amount of Sheeple.
 

slash196

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The only source I trust is, ironically enough, state-sponsored television. That is to say, PBS. It's run by the government, and yet is somehow the most trustworthy and unbiased source for TV news. Jim Lerher is the man.
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: Fern
Not to pick on Harvey, but this a common problem here (confusing news reporting with opinion pieces or shows) and then complaining about it. O'Reilly is NOT a news broadcast. It's an "opinion" show, a show about HIS opinion.
OK. Would you prefer I pick up on a dildo brained air head like Brit Hume?

The fact is, EVERYTHING on fox is an opinion, whether they call it "news" or not. :roll: