The Hammer is falling as the Insurrectionists are identified.

[WelshBloke]

Ashli Babbitt deserved to get shot. She earned that bullet. Good riddance to her.

I don't like that anyone was shot but it's impossible to argue that she didn't have every chance to back away. She was obviously an antagonist bent on overcoming whatever was Infront of her until she was faced with lethal force.
It's shit but that was her decision.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

So what? The officer was sworn to protect Congress, not just himself.

Police are sworn to protect everyone and to serve. You should be giving this particular officer the same consideration that you give other officers that shoot unarmed people. I know i am.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

I don't like that anyone was shot but it's impossible to argue that she didn't have every chance to back away. She was obviously an antagonist bent on overcoming whatever was Infront of her until she was faced with lethal force.
It's shit but that was her decision.

I don't think she ever saw the gun.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

A Federal Officer specifically tasked with protecting a secure facility has no duty to retreat, but rather to engage the offender.

Not get off'n my thread with your off topic crap. This is about identifying and arresting the insurrectionists.

OK, i'm out of here at your request.

 

[MrSquished]

I don't like that anyone was shot but it's impossible to argue that she didn't have every chance to back away. She was obviously an antagonist bent on overcoming whatever was Infront of her until she was faced with lethal force.
It's shit but that was her decision.

She and her family are fucking insane conspiracy theorist traitors. She was physically attempting to prevent the peaceful transfer of power in a democracy. She deserved that bullet. A lot more traitors deserved bullets that day.

 

[pmv]

She and her family are fucking insane conspiracy theorist traitors. She was physically attempting to prevent the peaceful transfer of power in a democracy. She deserved that bullet. A lot more traitors deserved bullets that day.

But who would you have dish out those bullets?

I mean there were more than a few cops among the insurrectionists. Does that not say something about cops?

If you applaud or encourage cops shooting people, you have to acknowledge the kind of people you are cheering on to do the shooting. And who do you think they will be most prone to shoot, if you encourage them to do so in a general sense? The majority of those they end up shooting in the longer run won't be right-wing insurrectionists.

And however nuts Babbitt was (and she seems to have been seriously nuts) I don't think it's a good thing to give the right their martyrs, unless absolutely unavoidable (in her case it probably was, but still a sub-optimal outcome).

 

[MrSquished]

But who would you have dish out those bullets?

I mean there were more than a few cops among the insurrectionists. Does that not say something about cops?

If you applaud or encourage cops shooting people, you have to acknowledge the kind of people you are cheering on to do the shooting. And who do you think they will be most prone to shoot, if you encourage them to do so in a general sense? The majority of those they end up shooting in the longer run won't be right-wing insurrectionists.

And however nuts Babbitt was (and she seems to have been seriously nuts) I don't think it's a good thing to give the right their martyrs, unless absolutely unavoidable (in her case it probably was, but still a sub-optimal outcome).

I didn't say it would be good to give the insane GQP cult party martyrs, I'm just saying they deserved to be shot.

 

[NWRMidnight]

I don't think she ever saw the gun.

Maybe you should actually go watch the video of her getting shot with sound, as your response indicates you haven't watched the video. So you can learn that it was called out "gun", "there's a gun", "he's got a gun" by more than one person, one of which was back in the mob near her, before she decided to try to climb thru the window, ignoring the warning that he has a gun. She didn't have to see the gun, she was warned multiple times. And maybe, if you watch it from the beginning you will retract your bullshit argument. or maybe not, since we all know your brain is seriously broken.

 

[Heartbreaker]

Yo, Import ....If someone breaks a window at your home or office and is forcing their way in, even after you tell them to stop, whatcha' gonna do?

The capital situation was MUCH worse. If she was alone, he might have considered trying to physically subdue her, but she was the leading edge of a angry Mob. If he let her through, the mob was going to follow, and would have been unstoppable.

He did the only reasonable thing to protect the congress members. He shot and stopped the leading member, and stopped the mob cold.

This someone facing down a mob and taking only one calculated shot to stop them.

The shooter deserves a medal, for remaining cool in an insane situation, and using the minimum amount of force to prevent a catastrophe.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

Which is why the Orangies are so opposed to it.

Donald Trump Sends Birthday Video Demanding 'Justice' For Ashli Babbitt

Former President Donald Trump sent the message of support which was played at the "Texas Loves Ashli Babbitt" event.

www.newsweek.com

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[tweaker2]

Which is why the Orangies are so opposed to it.

Donald Trump Sends Birthday Video Demanding 'Justice' For Ashli Babbitt

Former President Donald Trump sent the message of support which was played at the "Texas Loves Ashli Babbitt" event.

www.newsweek.com

.

Donald refuses to take the blame for her death of which she was there at his direction, so he has to, in true form, blame someone else for his acts of incompetence and sheer stupidity. He incited that insurrection, is presently not being held accountable for it and will continue to conspire to seek the shelter from prosecution he once had due to his position of power at that time. He's exploiting her death to that end and he will lay down the lives of any and all who would risk their lives in his name.

70+ million Repubs still think he's the guy they want back in the White House. That is much more frightful than the man himself given the monumental wreckage of a term he left behind him.

 

[UNCjigga]

Donald refuses to take the blame for her death of which she was there at his direction, so he has to, in true form, blame someone else for his acts of incompetence and sheer stupidity. He incited that insurrection, is presently not being held accountable for it and will continue to conspire to seek the shelter from prosecution he once had due to his position of power at that time. He's exploiting her death to that end and he will lay down the lives of any and all who would risk their lives in his name.

70+ million Repubs still think he's the guy they want back in the White House. That is much more frightful than the man himself given the monumental wreckage of a term he left behind him.

Republicans really love their dead political props…as long as they aren’t black or dead from COVID.

Trump wishing Ashli Babbitt a happy birthday is just the icing on a very deplorable cake.

 

[iRONic]

I have no knowledge.

You proudly demonstrate that with every post you make.

 

[VRAMdemon]

Marjorie Taylor Greene and Lin Wood are going to war over which one is more batshit crazy. Wood says MTG isn’t doing enough to reinstate Trump, and that by demanding the impeachment of Biden she’s acknowledging that he won. He thinks she's a communist. They are fighting over who is the bigger supporter of Kyle Rittenhouse. The great and really smart QAnon John, could see this MASSIVE divide coming within the movement "from a mile away". And QAnon influencer- batshitter extraordinaire Jordan Sather thinks this spat means the CIA and the Mossad are infiltrating Patriot/MAGA/Q movement.

MAGA QAnon's 2 Biggest Celebrities Are at War

Former Trump attorney Lin Wood called Georgia Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene a “communist.” Then things really got nasty.

www.vice.com

Lol @ Republicans and this nutty ass grifting Trumpland

 

[WelshBloke]

I don't think she ever saw the gun.

Sometimes you have no knowledge, sometimes you know stuff that no one else does. It's fun watching you pick your certainties.

 

[hal2kilo]

Hey look, another unarmed non-insurrectionist. Right Ron.

Evidence of Armed Trump Extremists Continues to Emerge in January 6 Cases – Mother Jones

 

[hal2kilo]

Wow, seems like you get better treatment in court if you tried to overturn our democracy. Win a judgement against an oil company? Not so much.
Probably deserves it own thread.

The corporate state came for human rights lawyer Steven Donziger — and we're next | Salon.com

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

Nobody ever accused them of being smart;

A Capitol riot defendant accused of smoking weed in a senator's office admitted to 2 additional felonies while representing himself

Under cross-examination, Brandon Fellows admitted to climbing into the Capitol through a broken window without permission from authorities.

www.businessinsider.com

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[MtnMan]

Nobody ever accused them of being smart;

A Capitol riot defendant accused of smoking weed in a senator's office admitted to 2 additional felonies while representing himself

Under cross-examination, Brandon Fellows admitted to climbing into the Capitol through a broken window without permission from authorities.

www.businessinsider.com

.

"He who represents himself has a fool for a client” - Abraham Lincoln

 

[KMFJD]

Prosecutors: Capitol cop told Jan. 6 rioter to hide evidence

A U.S. Capitol Police officer has been indicted on obstruction of justice charges after prosecutors say he helped to hide evidence of a rioter's involvement in January’s insurrection.

apnews.com

and anotha one

 

[BoomerD]

Prosecutors: Capitol cop told Jan. 6 rioter to hide evidence

A U.S. Capitol Police officer has been indicted on obstruction of justice charges after prosecutors say he helped to hide evidence of a rioter's involvement in January’s insurrection.

apnews.com

and anotha one

Whoops...

While I'm glad to see him get arrested and charged, won't this give weight to the defense teams who have been claiming their clients were "invited in" by Capitol Police?

 

[KMFJD]

Whoops...

While I'm glad to see him get arrested and charged, won't this give weight to the defense teams who have been claiming their clients were "invited in" by Capitol Police?

i don't think so, judges appear to be thinking the same, besides he did the the day after

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

Whoops...

While I'm glad to see him get arrested and charged, won't this give weight to the defense teams who have been claiming their clients were "invited in" by Capitol Police?

Well, not THIS particular officer .....

Capitol Police officer indicted on obstruction charges

Mercury News|55 minutes ago
Riley had worked with the Capitol Police for 25 years, the indictment said. He was in the K-9 unit on January 6, though he was not on duty inside the Capitol building during the attack,

 

[akugami]

Is Import really THAT stupid?

It's called sticking your head up your ass, seeing shit up the wazoo, and saying you saw paradise. They've basically taken "owning the libs" as a religion and talked themselves into believing made up stories when the facts are biting them right in the ass.

There is no point in arguing with him. Whatever facts you bring up will be conveniently swept under a rug, never to be seen again. They are so delusional that they don't even need to twist facts to support their arguments. Anything that points out their lies just conveniently gets left out or is fake news. At this point, I don't bother trying to argue logic with those who say they are protecting democracy but really are protecting democrazy.

Edit: Also, why the hell are there so little felony convictions? Charge them with felonies. For the crime of insurrection, they should lose their right to vote.

 

[Spacehead]

Some recent sentences handed down. Kinda sad IMO (lenient)

BAUER, Robert L.
Sentenced 10/13 to 45 days incarceration, 60 hours community service and $500 restitution.


BENNETT, Andrew Ryan
Sentenced 10/1/21 to two years of probation, the first three months of which are to be served in home confinement; $10 special assessment; $500 restitution to the Architect of the Capitol; 80 hours of community service.


BISSEY, Dona Sue
Sentenced 10/12 to 14 days incarceration, 60 hours community service, and $500 restitution.


DOYLE, Danielle Nicole
Sentenced 10/1/21 to two months probation, $10 special assessment, $3,000 fine, and $500 restitution to the Architect of the Capitol.


HEMENWAY II, Edward E.
Sentenced 10/13 to 45 days incarceration, 60 hours community service and $500 restitution.


JANCART, Derek
Sentenced on 9/29 to 45 days incarceration and $500 restitution.


MAZZOCCO, Matthew Carl
Sentenced 10/4 to 45 days incarceration.


RAU, Erik
Sentenced on 9/29 to 45 days incarceration and $500 restitution.


ROSA, Eliel
Sentenced 10/12 to 12 months probation, $500 restitution and 100 hours of community service.