The Great Divide: Retro vs. Metro America

[CADsortaGUY]

"The Great Divide," in short, is a Michael Moore movie in book form. And like a Moore movie, it is dangerous for Democrats."

The authors of "The Great Divide" apparently think that if they can portray President Bush's supporters as stupid and evil and unnecessary, they will hasten the rule of Democratic America. Kerry should ignore them.

Unfortunately it seems kerry and edwards aren't ignoring them.

Hehe - I thought this line was one of the most revealing that they pulled out of the book.
"voters in Iowa and New Hampshire have little relevance to a Democratic victory."

How does that make all you Iowans and N.Hampshirites feel?

Interesting...very interesting.

CsG

 

[Infohawk]

This is the same book that points out the red states get more government benefits than they pay in taxes. In other words, the blue states are helping them out since apparently the red states they can't take care of themselves despite claiming they value work and being self-sufficient.

 

[SirStev0]

i hate people like this on both sides... moore to coulter... they make politics into a sh!t throwing contests... its so stupid... im more then willing to admit that some of my posts are just cheap jabs at the other side and have no fact backing them ... but this asses have people who actually listen and believe them... at least jon stewart admits thats what he is doing... sometimes i wonder if these people actually believe all the crap they feed us...

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: SirStev0
i hate people like this on both sides... moore to coulter... they make politics into a sh!t throwing contests... its so stupid... im more then willing to admit that some of my posts are just cheap jabs at the other side and have no fact backing them ... but this asses have people who actually listen and believe them... at least jon stewart admits thats what he is doing... sometimes i wonder if these people actually believe all the crap they feed us...

Did you read the book? What did you think?

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: SirStev0
i hate people like this on both sides... moore to coulter... they make politics into a sh!t throwing contests... its so stupid... im more then willing to admit that some of my posts are just cheap jabs at the other side and have no fact backing them ... but this asses have people who actually listen and believe them... at least jon stewart admits thats what he is doing... sometimes i wonder if these people actually believe all the crap they feed us...

Sorry, my quote snip link might have given you the wrong impression - it was not written by moore - it was written by democrat partisans.

CsG

 

[BA]

Originally posted by: Infohawk
This is the same book that points out the red states get more government benefits than they pay in taxes. In other words, the blue states are helping them out since apparently the red states they can't take care of themselves despite claiming they value work and being self-sufficient.

As a resident of a red state, NYAH NYAH!

OTOH, I suspect a great deal of that is simply an effect of population density. For example, federally funded highways. There aren't too many people in western kansas to pay for I-70, but it's existence is advantagous outside the immediate vicinity. Now the agriculture subsidies, which lead to high fructose corn syrup being an ingredient in EVERYTHING....

The lower population also leads to greater per-capita representation in the Senate.

 

[SirStev0]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: SirStev0
i hate people like this on both sides... moore to coulter... they make politics into a sh!t throwing contests... its so stupid... im more then willing to admit that some of my posts are just cheap jabs at the other side and have no fact backing them ... but this asses have people who actually listen and believe them... at least jon stewart admits thats what he is doing... sometimes i wonder if these people actually believe all the crap they feed us...

Sorry, my quote snip link might have given you the wrong impression - it was not written by moore - it was written by democrat partisans.

CsG

no i got that ... i was just ranting about the bullsh!t that is american politics


and moore is a great example of whats wrong with it

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: SirStev0
i hate people like this on both sides... moore to coulter... they make politics into a sh!t throwing contests... its so stupid... im more then willing to admit that some of my posts are just cheap jabs at the other side and have no fact backing them ... but this asses have people who actually listen and believe them... at least jon stewart admits thats what he is doing... sometimes i wonder if these people actually believe all the crap they feed us...

Sorry, my quote snip link might have given you the wrong impression - it was not written by moore - it was written by democrat partisans.

CsG

no i got that ... i was just ranting about the bullsh!t that is american politics


and moore is a great example of whats wrong with it

Ah, OK. :thumbsup:

CsG

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: SirStev0
i hate people like this on both sides... moore to coulter... they make politics into a sh!t throwing contests... its so stupid... im more then willing to admit that some of my posts are just cheap jabs at the other side and have no fact backing them ... but this asses have people who actually listen and believe them... at least jon stewart admits thats what he is doing... sometimes i wonder if these people actually believe all the crap they feed us...

Sorry, my quote snip link might have given you the wrong impression - it was not written by moore - it was written by democrat partisans.

CsG

no i got that ... i was just ranting about the bullsh!t that is american politics


and moore is a great example of whats wrong with it

Along with Coulter, Hannity, Limbaugh, Savage, Medved and the rest....

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

and moore is a great example of whats wrong with it

Along with Coulter, Hannity, Limbaugh, Savage, Medved and the rest....[/quote]

Take away Moore and you got a deal.

 

[SirStev0]

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: SirStev0
i hate people like this on both sides... moore to coulter... they make politics into a sh!t throwing contests... its so stupid... im more then willing to admit that some of my posts are just cheap jabs at the other side and have no fact backing them ... but this asses have people who actually listen and believe them... at least jon stewart admits thats what he is doing... sometimes i wonder if these people actually believe all the crap they feed us...

Sorry, my quote snip link might have given you the wrong impression - it was not written by moore - it was written by democrat partisans.

CsG

no i got that ... i was just ranting about the bullsh!t that is american politics


and moore is a great example of whats wrong with it

Along with Coulter, Hannity, Limbaugh, Savage, Medved and the rest....

dont worry i mentioned coulter before... they all fuk thinkgs up

 

[SirStev0]

speaking of limbaugh... what happened to that fat nazi... i havent even heard anything from him this election and i figure with it being such a big deal hed have to open his mouth... is he still all strong out on downers...

 

[BA]

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

and moore is a great example of whats wrong with it

Along with Coulter, Hannity, Limbaugh, Savage, Medved and the rest....

Take away Moore and you got a deal.[/quote]


So Moore is a perfectly objective documentarian with no political agenda?

If we really wanted to end our dependence on foreign oil, we could just throw Limbaugh and Moore together.
How much do they both weigh? *mumble*250lbs/2.2k/lb...speed of light squared*mumble*

Originally posted by: SirStev0
speaking of limbaugh... what happened to that fat nazi... i havent even heard anything from him this election and i figure with it being such a big deal hed have to open his mouth... is he still all strong out on downers...

Limbaugh had that drug thing, I don't remember the specifics

 

[arsbanned]

Not sure why they mentioned NH, which is NOT landlocked (unlike flyover central, Iowa ).
They are wacked out though. LIVE FREE OR DIEEEEEE!

Limbaugh had that drug thing, I don't remember the specifics

hehe, he's a DRUG ADDICT, who repeatedly showed contempt for...DRUG ADDICTS! He should go to fvcking PRISON like he advocates for all other DRUG ADDICTS. :thumbsup:

 

[SirStev0]

Originally posted by: arsbanned
Not sure why they mentioned NH, which is NOT landlocked (unlike flyover central, Iowa ).
They are wacked out though. LIVE FREE OR DIEEEEEE!

possible the coolest state motto... ever

 

[arsbanned]

What, you don't like "Dirigo"? I agree, it does have a certain IMPACT.

 

[DealMonkey]

First off, how is this any different than President Bush marginalizing the state of Massachusetts because he thinks everyone there is a liberal elitist or some such nonsense? Or Republicans using wedge issues like abortion, religion and stem cell research (among others) to divide and "conquer?"

Secondly, I think the article points out some valid concerns:

(A) The Electoral College system is a joke. It's completely broken and needs to be fixed. Lately, I think it can be fixed on a state-by-state basis by enacting something similar to what CO has on the ballot this year -- a split electoral vote system.

(B) The nomination process is equally a joke. It completely marginalizes every other state besides Iowa and New Hampshire. I agree, as a CA resident, I could give a rat's ass what voters in those two states think. Why doesn't my opinion/vote count?