The GOP Finds Its Inner Feminist

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I have been completely annoyed over the past few weeks with the way legitimate critiques and questions about Sarah Palin and her credentials have been met with an endless amount of whining from the GOP about "sexism." One of the earliest examples I recall was when Michelle Bachmann, a wacky fundamentalist Christian U.S. Rep from here in MN was on CNN with James Carville during the RNCC. When Carville expressed concern about Palin's credentials, Bachmann responded that all women should be offended by his remarks. It's just bizarre how Palin is managing to protect herself against bond fide and justifiable concerns about her background and credentials simply because she's a woman.

On this topic, Anna Quindlen recently wrote this piece, which synopsizes the issue more eloquently than I can:

Hypocrisy is only bad when it is improperly used.
?George Bernard Shaw

I never thought I would live long enough to see the day when the Republican presidential candidate would cite membership in the PTA as evidence of executive experience, when the far right would laud the full-time working mothers of newborns, when social conservatives would stare down teenage pregnancy and replace their pursed-lip accusations of promiscuity with hosannas about choosing life.

The Republican Party has undergone a surprising metamorphosis since Sarah Palin was chosen as its vice presidential candidate. In Palin I recognize a fellow traveler, a woman whose life would have been impossible just a few decades ago. If she had been born 30 years earlier, the PTA would likely have been her last stop, not her first. Her political ascendancy is a direct result of the women's movement, which has changed the world utterly for women of all persuasions. It is therefore notable that Palin has found her home in a party, and in a wing of that party, that for many years has reviled, repelled and sought to roll back the very changes that led her to the Alaska Statehouse.

But expediency is an astonishing thing, and conservative Republicans have suddenly embraced the assertion that women can do it all, even those conservative Republicans who have made careers out of trashing that notion. James Dobson of Focus on the Family once had staffers on his hot line saying, "Dr. Dobson recommends that mothers of young children stay at home as much as possible." He now applauds a woman who was back at work three days after her son, who has Down syndrome, was born.

Even to state that simple fact resulted in outrage among those at the convention, who screamed double standard. But the double standard was mainly theirs. The governor was aggressively marketed in terms of her maternity, yet questions about how she managed to mother five and lead the state were dismissed as sexist. The governor's two years leading Alaska, which in terms of citizens served is the equivalent of being mayor of Poughkeepsie, N.Y., was said to be the linchpin of her appointment, but questions about her breadth of experience were dismissed as sexist. Her surrogates wanted the press to write about mooseburgers and ignore how the governor had once pursued the kind of earmarked federal funds she now insists are anathema to her. Conservatives have probably used the word "sexist" more in the past week than they have in the past 50 years.

This would all have been entertaining if it were not such rank hypocrisy. These are people who have inveighed against affirmative action, a version of which undoubtedly played a part in this selection. These are people who inveighed against personal attacks on their new nominee when the wingnuts of their own party elevated such attacks to a fine art by accusing Hillary Rodham Clinton of fictitious misdeeds ranging from treason to murder. To try to suggest Sarah Palin might garner the Hillary Clinton vote, that one woman is just the same as another, that biology trumps ideology, is the ultimate evidence of true sexism, and I hope Senator Clinton will travel the country and say so.

Amid the drumbeat of female Amazonian competence occasioned by the Palin nomination ran one deeply discordant assumption, the assumption that women are strong and smart and sure and yet neither sentient nor moral enough to decide what to do if they are pregnant under difficult circumstances. The governor has talked about the choice she and her pregnant teenage daughter have made, but would deny other women the right to make their own choices. She talks about fighting the old boys' network and corrupt politicians, but would turn over the private reproductive decisions of American women to both. This is not choosing life. It is choosing unwarranted intrusion into the family lives of women. Which, ironically, is exactly what the Republicans accused the press of doing in the case of Governor Palin.

When Democrat James Carville said he found the choice of Palin perplexing on the merits, Republican Congresswoman Michele Bachmann said she found that "offensive to American women." I found her offense offensive to American women, since at its core was the notion that Governor Palin should not and could not be judged by the same standards as her male counterparts. In fact, all the cries of sexism suggested that, yet again, the Republicans had underestimated the ability of women to lead; when the governor finally took center stage, it was clear that she needed no protections or excuses. If she is as sharp and self-assured as her convention speech, the first thing she will do, in the parlance of the sport she played under the nickname "Sarah Barracuda," is to slam-dunk the notion that she can't take an elbow. She certainly knows how to give one.

John McCain has been no advocate for women; when asked during the primaries, on the subject of Senator Clinton, "How do we beat the bitch?" he responded, "Excellent question." (Note to the GOP: that IS sexist.) He has been either hostile or clueless on issues like contraceptive funding, workplace protections and aid to poor mothers. And his running mate will likely walk in lock step with him on all those things. But she could certainly help move the inevitable tide of women's rights, the tide that has floated her own boat, by demanding that she be honored with the same tough scrutiny the guys in this race get. Which was, in case these improbable born-again friends of feminism missed it, the entire point of the exercise in the first place.
 

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I never thought I would live long enough to see the day when the Republican presidential candidate would cite membership in the PTA as evidence of executive experience

I had to stop right there. Seems to me that's a gross mischaracterization (I've got to go finish a tax return, and if the rest of article continues in this fashion I won't have time.)

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Originally posted by: Fern
I never thought I would live long enough to see the day when the Republican presidential candidate would cite membership in the PTA as evidence of executive experience

I had to stop right there. Seems to me that's a gross mischaracterization (I've got to go finish a tax return, and if the rest of article continues in this fashion I won't have time.)

Fern

I guess you're not following your own candidate's campaign, because McCain said exactly that.
 

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Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone
The Republican Party has undergone a surprising metamorphosis since Sarah Palin was chosen as its vice presidential candidate. In Palin I recognize a fellow traveler, a woman whose life would have been impossible just a few decades ago. If she had been born 30 years earlier, the PTA would likely have been her last stop, not her first. Her political ascendancy is a direct result of the women's movement, which has changed the world utterly for women of all persuasions. It is therefore notable that Palin has found her home in a party, and in a wing of that party, that for many years has reviled, repelled and sought to roll back the very changes that led her to the Alaska Statehouse.

Amid the drumbeat of female Amazonian competence occasioned by the Palin nomination ran one deeply discordant assumption, the assumption that women are strong and smart and sure and yet neither sentient nor moral enough to decide what to do if they are pregnant under difficult circumstances. The governor has talked about the choice she and her pregnant teenage daughter have made, but would deny other women the right to make their own choices. She talks about fighting the old boys' network and corrupt politicians, but would turn over the private reproductive decisions of American women to both. This is not choosing life. It is choosing unwarranted intrusion into the family lives of women. Which, ironically, is exactly what the Republicans accused the press of doing in the case of Governor Palin.

It's also rather bizarre how some radicals at NARAL and Planned Parenthood have at least partially defined the entire spectrum of women's issues to revolve solely around the phantom 'right' to an abortion and how many handouts they get.

She's pro life, you don't like it, we don't care. You'd think that an example of someone who has successfully balanced work and family in the matter that she has would be beneficial.

Oh, and according to Democrats in her own state, she's a pretty damn good governor who unseated a party incumbent. I'm sure her political ascension to that point has absolutely nothing to do with her personal capabilities. :roll:

Would I want her to be President in 2009? Probably not. Did affirmative action matter in her selection? Obviously. Would Hillary Clinton be here today if her husband had chosen to marry one of the other dozens of women he screwed around with? Probably not. Does that bother the leftwingers? No, because she's pro-abortion.

Shrug. What is it about conservative women and conservative blacks that offends people so much?
 
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Originally posted by: winnar111

It's also rather bizarre how some radicals at NARAL and Planned Parenthood have at least partially defined the entire spectrum of women's issues to revolve solely around the phantom 'right' to an abortion and how many handouts they get.

She's pro life, you don't like it, we don't care. You'd think that an example of someone who has successfully balanced work and family in the matter that she has would be beneficial.

Oh, and according to Democrats in her own state, she's a pretty damn good governor who unseated a party incumbent. I'm sure her political ascension to that point has absolutely nothing to do with her personal capabilities. :roll:

Would I want her to be President in 2009? Probably not. Did affirmative action matter in her selection? Obviously. Would Hillary Clinton be here today if her husband had chosen to marry one of the other dozens of women he screwed around with? Probably not. Does that bother the leftwingers? No, because she's pro-abortion.

Shrug. What is it about conservative women and conservative blacks that offends people so much?

You've managed to pretty much uniformly miss the point in every material way, which took some doing on your part.
 

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Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone
Originally posted by: winnar111
It's also rather bizarre how some radicals at NARAL and Planned Parenthood have at least partially defined the entire spectrum of women's issues to revolve solely around the phantom 'right' to an abortion and how many handouts they get.
She's pro life, you don't like it, we don't care. You'd think that an example of someone who has successfully balanced work and family in the matter that she has would be beneficial.
Oh, and according to Democrats in her own state, she's a pretty damn good governor who unseated a party incumbent. I'm sure her political ascension to that point has absolutely nothing to do with her personal capabilities. :roll:
Would I want her to be President in 2009? Probably not. Did affirmative action matter in her selection? Obviously. Would Hillary Clinton be here today if her husband had chosen to marry one of the other dozens of women he screwed around with? Probably not. Does that bother the leftwingers? No, because she's pro-abortion.
Shrug. What is it about conservative women and conservative blacks that offends people so much?
You've managed to pretty much uniformly miss the point in every material way, which took some doing on your part.
About par for the course for winnar.

He might also want to reconsider that comment on Senator Clinton. I remember a lot of speculation that without her, William Jefferson Clinton would never have made it to Arkansas' governorship, much less the White House.
 

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Originally posted by: CallMeJoe

About par for the course for winnar.

He might also want to reconsider that comment on Senator Clinton. I remember a lot of speculation that without her, William Jefferson Clinton would never have made it to Arkansas' governorship, much less the White House.

Speculation from who, exactly?

It might be possible that Hillary had some defining trait in 1978 that Bill's other girlfriends didn't, which was an asset to his career, at least until 1994 when she sunk his healthcare plan.

It's definite, though, that she wouldn't even be a Senator if her husband didn't get elected first and carpetbag the family to New York. Bash Palin all you like, at least she got into office on her own.
 

CallMeJoe

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Originally posted by: winnar111
Speculation from who, exactly?
Hillary Rodham was extremely well connected in Little Rock, through the Rose Law Firm, and contributed greatly to her husband's gubernatorial campaign.

It might be possible that Hillary had some defining trait in 1978 that Bill's other girlfriends didn't, which was an asset to his career, at least until 1994 when she sunk his healthcare plan.
The Clintons jointly share that failure. She may have taken the lead, but neither of them had the "inside the Beltway" credentials to push through such an ambitious plan so early in the Clinton first term.

It's definite, though, that she wouldn't even be a Senator if her husband didn't get elected first and carpetbag the family to New York. Bash Palin all you like, at least she got into office on her own.
She might not be Senator from New York, but you cannot categorically assert that someone of her talents and ambition would not somehow make it to the U. S. Senate from, perhaps, her native Illinois. If they would elect Barack Obama...
 

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Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone
Originally posted by: Fern
I never thought I would live long enough to see the day when the Republican presidential candidate would cite membership in the PTA as evidence of executive experience

I had to stop right there. Seems to me that's a gross mischaracterization (I've got to go finish a tax return, and if the rest of article continues in this fashion I won't have time.)

Fern

I guess you're not following your own candidate's campaign, because McCain said exactly that.

So she's referring to this sentence?:

She?s had executive experience as governor, as mayor, as city council member, and PTA

OK, another McCain dumb remark. IMO, city council is not exec experience either. You'd have to be head of city council or PTA for it to qualify IMO.

FErn