The girlfriend and I are getting a kitten - what are we getting ourselves into?

JM Aggie08

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Unlike the little lady, I've had animals all throughout my life; multiple dogs, goats, rabbits, cattle, a couple cats (both were assholes), etc.

Both cats were adults when we brought them home from the shelter, so I have absolutely NO experience in raising a kitten. I would appreciate some help with the following subjects:

*Ensuring kitty shits in the box.
*Brand of shit box to purchase.
*Where should kitty sleep so it doesn't cry all night?
*Brands of food?
*Scratching posts? Also, how to ensure that the little ah heck doesn't scratch my leather couch to hell.

We're looking to get a male, and we will be naming him James. He will be fabulous.
 

lxskllr

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Kitties shit in a box by nature. Just let it know its there.

Dunno. I have a plastic box. It works, but the girl is aggressive about digging litter, and it gets on the floor. I could rent her out to strip miners :^D

Kitty sleeps where kitty wants to sleep.

I get 9 Lives. I don't necessarily recommend it though. Seems like proper food is expensive and time consuming(handmade, not from China).

Maybe, but that isn't guaranteed protection for the couch. Nothing lasts forever. A fuzzy friend is better than a couch. Just look at it, sigh, and give kitty some attention. It;'s not a big deal.

I recommend a female. They're mellower.
 

IronWing

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*Ensuring kitty shits in the box.
Place kitten in box and lick his butt to encourage pooping.
*Brand of shit box to purchase.
Anything plastic for the box. Costco litter is good quality and half the price of other good litter. Get unscented litter.
*Where should kitty sleep so it doesn't cry all night?
With you.
*Brands of food?
Anything grain-free.
*Scratching posts? Also, how to ensure that the little ah heck doesn't scratch my leather couch to hell.
Ha, ha, ha! Scratching posts and towers are fun and cats will use them. They will still scratch the crap out of your couch. Keep the couch in a room the cat can't access. It will give the cat something to do, trying to get into the room to scratch the couch.

I'll cut to the chase with one of life's lessons: When you have animals you can't have nice things.
 

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Every animal comes with responsibilities for the owner, and keeping any animal in the house has repercussions.

That said, I hate cats. My dogs will occasionally vomit or take something out of the trash that they shouldn't. My cat has ripped the furniture to shreds, pissed all over the house, puked on everything within reach, spit hairballs up on whatever she missed puking on, and just speaking generally if I wasn't a nice guy uninterested in the sort of notoriety that accompanies overt acts of animal cruelty I would bash her head in with a fire extinguisher.

On the other hand, she at least will occasionally catch a mouse. So she does more to earn her bread than the dogs do. I don't know _how_ she catches mice. She is too fat to run very fast, but I think she rolls over on them or something.

Here's hoping you guys have a better experience.
 

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If you get a male cat you will need to get him fixed asap. If not he will mark his territory and it will not be pleasant.

Make sure you get good litter, I use arm and hammer or scoop away.

You will need to get a monthly flea treatment if he goes outside, which he will be obsessive about doing.

Pick a good quality dry food like Purina one or Eukanuba and stick with the same food. This will prevent vomiting. However if your cat develops problems such as bladder crystals, excessive hairballs or vomiting switch to a food designed for these problems.

If you don't like cleaning the litter box I suggest this http://www.litter-robot.com/?id=msn-auto to make sure that the box stays clean. Cats are clean animals and will refuse to use a dirty box, meaning they will piss and shit on your floor.

Never discipline a cat physically, it will make it psychotic. Spray it with water and scold it. However be sure to still give the cat affection, even if it is being a little shit, if you want a well adjusted family member instead of an angry couch ornament.

If you notice your cat is acting pissy try being a little nicer to it. They do hold grudges and remember slights.

I suggest getting a small furry ball with a tail, when they are still kittens you can teach them to fetch.
 
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sixone

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Unlike the little lady, I've had animals all throughout my life; multiple dogs, goats, rabbits, cattle, a couple cats (both were assholes), etc.

Both cats were adults when we brought them home from the shelter, so I have absolutely NO experience in raising a kitten. I would appreciate some help with the following subjects:

*Ensuring kitty shits in the box.
*Brand of shit box to purchase.
*Where should kitty sleep so it doesn't cry all night?
*Brands of food?
*Scratching posts? Also, how to ensure that the little ah heck doesn't scratch my leather couch to hell.

We're looking to get a male, and we will be naming him James. He will be fabulous.

No, he won't - if you only get one cat. Get a female to keep him company and keep him BUSY. He'll probably destroy your leather, either way.

When you bring them home, put them in the litter box first. They'll learn the rest of the house in relation to the box, so they won't forget where it is. If you want them to use the box, keep. it. clean. Any old box from Walmart will do.

Food brand doesn't matter as much as variety. Don't feed dry only - give them a can each day, maybe alternate with dry.

If the cat's properly socialized, you won't need to force him to sleep anywhere. He'll pick his own spot - probably in your bed.
 

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I got mine from SPCA..

If you get it from SPCA, all of the animals are fixed.
My cat was already de-clawed (I know de-clawing is cruel).. But I have 0 worries of him clawing anything.

Do not close any doors that has carpet underneath.
Make sure he has a good sitting spot near a window..
 

JM Aggie08

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I should note that we live in an apartment. The odds of it going outside are none to none.
 

JM Aggie08

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Also, as lxskllr mentioned, females tend to have a more mild temperament?

I would like to avoid furniture being destroyed if possible. I'm sure there is something that could be done to discourage that behavior (without being provided a condescending response).
 

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Also, as lxskllr mentioned, females tend to have a more mild temperament?

I would like to avoid furniture being destroyed if possible. I'm sure there is something that could be done to discourage that behavior (without being provided a condescending response).

The thing is, you have to be there to discourage the behavior EVERY TIME. That means when you go to work or go to sleep, kitty will get no discouragement.
 

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I would like to avoid furniture being destroyed if possible. I'm sure there is something that could be done to discourage that behavior (without being provided a condescending response).

I'm sure someone will say there is. We tried everything we could think of. I built her a thick, substantial scratching post covered with carpet and manila rope that she loved... when she happened to be in that room. We covered the arms of the sofas in tinfoil because we heard that would somehow discourage the behavior. But she just ripped it off, and anyway, I couldn't cover the whole living room carpet in foil and she also loved to dig her claws into that and rip up as much as she could.
 

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Also, as lxskllr mentioned, females tend to have a more mild temperament?

I would like to avoid furniture being destroyed if possible. I'm sure there is something that could be done to discourage that behavior (without being provided a condescending response).
There is no surefire way to keep cats from scratching the furniture. Some cats never scratch, others do. Some furniture seems to attract them and others they ignore. There isn't even a pattern to it. We have an upholstered loveseat and a couple chairs the cats demolished and a couple upholstered chairs in the same rooms that the cats never laid claw to. We tried the deterrent spray to no effect. Cats will knock small items off the dining room table everyday but have never touched the mineral specimen shelves even though they are full of shiny stuff for the cats to break.
 

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If you want to be 100% sure I would get a heavy cover for the couch while training the cat not to scratch. Something like duck cloth.

You can buy sprays that are supposed to deter cats from scratching on things, I didn't have much luck with them. Besides couches cats love to scratch door jams and molding. I suggest having the water bottle handy and providing approved scratching posts everywhere. The cardboard ones filled with cat nip work and are cheap.
 
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Our cats just use the scratching post and go to town on them. never had a problem w/ leather or couches, except for inadvertant scratching when trying to get a grip, etc.
 

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Males are friendlier and more social in my experience of 8'ish cats (fixed anyways.... don't know about unfixed males). Females can be grouchy and anti-social. YMMV of course.

Agreed with sixone, a single cat is a recipe for disaster. Two cats work very well, personally I'd suggest both male and from the same litter. It's a myth that two males will be overly aggressive to each other, assuming they are fixed anyways.
 

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Females can be more mellow, they also develop more odd habits in my experience, like biting your chin or pawing your face while you try to sleep. The best cat I ever had was a female, though my 2 year old male is on his way to being a great cat too.
 
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Males are friendlier and more social in my experience of 8'ish cats (fixed anyways.... don't know about unfixed males). Females can be grouchy and anti-social. YMMV of course.

Agreed with sixone, a single cat is a recipe for disaster. Two cats work very well, personally I'd suggest both male and from the same litter. It's a myth that two males will be overly aggressive to each other, assuming they are fixed anyways.


I have two males, one is 3 months older and the other one came here afterwards. the first cat was beating him up and making weird noises for a few hours, but literally the next day they were snuggling up with each other. Its nice to have two because they can burn off energy chasing each other, instead of, you know, scratching your couch.
 

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I got a kitty at the end of October. She was ~6 months old at the time. It's been quite an experience - we always had outdoor cars growing up, but this is my first indoor cat.

I'd definitely consider an older cat, rather than one just old enough to adopt. I think 6 months was just about perfect to still get the "kitten experience" without having to deal with all the litterbox training.

*Ensuring kitty shits in the box.
*Brand of shit box to purchase.

I just showed mine the box, and she has no problems with using it. She did have issues with missing the box though, almost like she was perching on the edge and pooping off the side. I got a covered box, which is great, because once she hops in the entrance she can't "miss" and also can't kick litter out.

*Where should kitty sleep so it doesn't cry all night?

Mine sleeps where she wants. Which is usually under my bed or sometimes in the bed with me. The downside is that she is usually awake and starts running around, playing, etc by about 7AM. No biggie on weekdays because I'm awake anyway, but if I want to sleep late on weekends I usually have to shut her out of the bedroom. Which she's ok with now, though she is more prone to getting into things and making a mess.

*Brands of food?

Purina kitten chow.

*Scratching posts? Also, how to ensure that the little ah heck doesn't scratch my leather couch to hell.

I got just a plain scratching post from walmart, pretty much a base and a board wrapped with rope. After some enticing with catnip she's in the habit of using it regularly now. Although, you can still expect them to explore things with their claws, you just have to be there to scold them when they do. Mine also found an old blanket that she loves to chew on and knead her claws into, which seems to help give her an outlet for those clawing instincts.

Also you'll definitely want to get in the habit of claw clipping. It's not that difficult after the first time or two, and your hands/arms will thank you.
 

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Getting the cat to shit in the box is easy. Ensuring that he continues to shit in the box is a matter of keeping the box clean.

That said, UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES should you buy a "mechanical self cleaning" litterbox, such as the littermaid. I've owned several makes and models, and they ALL suck. The first littermaid I owned had a rake that would get jammed on congealed catshit/litter, which itself was stuck to the pan. The rake would struggle against the stuck piece of shit until the shit would finally release from the pan - at which point the rake would slam forward, launching a veritable cat shit missile across the room, where it would thump against the wall and come to a rest on part of (our then new) carpet. Ugh.

Best scratching post I've ever owned was one I made myself. Couple two by fours and some ply wood all wrapped with hemp rope. My cats prefer that to anything else in the house, and in 12 years our furniture has never been scratched.
 
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Cats learn fast. You have to teach them you're trustworthy and won't torment them when you pick them up. Be predictable unless your cat is in play mode. Those kitties that are skittish around people were probably chased, thrown, used for target practice, etc, at one time.

Place him in the litter box a few times. Once they feel the "sand" squish beneath their paws, they will gravitate toward that one place in the house, when the need arises. I lived with a female car for a while and never had to clean up cat waste.

If you feed a cat scraps while at the table, kitteh will hang around during every meal, hoping for a handout. Duh. My cat never got up on tables much, though every now and then I'd reenter the kitchen to find her on a chair back sniffing in the direction of food on the table. I'd yell and unceremoniously shove her off. She'd scamper off to the next room and cower under a chair for a bit. Cats don't necessarily connect your sudden roughness with their transgression, but if you yell and attack them when you find them in some off limits area, they will automatically hop off when you approach, unless they're feeling unduly lazy or it's a long way down.

My cat had a favorite corner of a tweed couch to scratch. Tore it up. But she went outdoors a lot and got to scratch on bare roots in the yard. As long as it was warm, we'd put her outside for the day while we were gone.

Food: Cat probably won't be too enthusiastic about Special Kitty, but he'll eat it. Just buy small sacks of various brands and make a written note of what varieties appeal to him. Purina, Iams are good.

Cats might climb into bed with you. They'll hear you snoring or breathing and they'll want a piece of the action and lay up against you. They can leave plenty of fluff behind, depending on time of year. Might want to pick up a cat brush for loose fluff removal. Cats love being groomed mostly.

I'd imagine females have more of a nesting instinct. My female cat was always trying new spaces. Sometimes in a cupboard, in a closet, under a bed, on the back of the couch, guest bed, top of computer CRT. Anytime a new box appeared on the floor she'd explore it and maybe settle down inside. I think the favorite bedding areas get too dirty after a couple days and that prompts them to seek other niches.

I had problems with my cat climbing onto the warm hood of my car, leaving footprints sometimes and flea debris behind. I charged outside and drove her off every time I caught it. Not sure how to avoid it other than coating my front bumper with vaseline.

Enough kitteh talk, back to work.