Boberfett: So you are going to vote for Gore? Or you are not voting at all?
Please tell me you are not wasting your vote on some loser third party candidate.
Please tell me you are not wasting your vote on some loser third party candidate.
Boberfett: Would you rather have a liar doing brain surgery on you (who has a great record as a brain surgeon), or an idiot (who has a great record as an idiot)?
BoberFett
Lifer
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I didn't realize we were voting for brain surgeons, thanks for bringing me up to speed.
What an ass. We're voting for a president, and personally I'd rather see an honest moron than a lying genius in the position. Unfortunately for Gore, he's no genius either which just leaves him a liar.
What an ass. We're voting for a president, and personally I'd rather see an honest moron than a lying genius in the position. Unfortunately for Gore, he's no genius either which just leaves him a liar.
If my choices are a psuedo Forrest Gump and a liar, then yes I will take Gump. He may not be a smart man, but he knows what love is.
IT, a challenge: Tell me why you are voting for Bore without saying anything negative about Bushlite. What is it about Bore's stances on various issues that appeals to you?
Harvey, do you think they really get a big red button?
Harvey, do you think they really get a big red button?
Boberfett: The problem you seem to overlook is that bushlite lies as much as any politician. So you have a bufoon AND a liar on the republican ticket.
rietz:
Gore has an interest in preserving our environment.
Gore has an interest in keeping the taxation levels the same on the rich, and reducing the taxation levels on the poor.
Gore has an interest in allowing the economy to remain as it is, rather than "tinkering" with it.
Gore has a better grasp on international politics--at least he knows what is going on in other countries.
Gore's first important decision as a candidate was picking Joe Leiberman as his VP--one of the most honest men in Washington.
Gore has an extensive record as a public servant.
Gore actually went to Viet Nam.
Gore has an interest in preserving our environment.
Gore has an interest in keeping the taxation levels the same on the rich, and reducing the taxation levels on the poor.
Gore has an interest in allowing the economy to remain as it is, rather than "tinkering" with it.
Gore has a better grasp on international politics--at least he knows what is going on in other countries.
Gore's first important decision as a candidate was picking Joe Leiberman as his VP--one of the most honest men in Washington.
Gore has an extensive record as a public servant.
Gore actually went to Viet Nam.
That's a start, but I'm looking for your opinions of his Bore's stances on the actual issues. i.e. His Medicare plan.
Bore says he is interested in preserving the environment. I believe that is his true motive just as I believe that Bushlite never snorted coke.
To phrase it a better way, why is Bore the best choice for our next leader? (without attacking the competition)
One for you: http://www.washtimes.com/national/default-2000919232831.htm.
Bore says he is interested in preserving the environment. I believe that is his true motive just as I believe that Bushlite never snorted coke.
To phrase it a better way, why is Bore the best choice for our next leader? (without attacking the competition)
One for you: http://www.washtimes.com/national/default-2000919232831.htm.
<< Gore actually went to Viet Nam. >>
And what a fine job he did as a reporter
<< Gore's first important decision as a candidate was picking Joe Leiberman as his VP--one of the most honest men in Washington. >>
A man who wont work or touch things on Sundays because of his beliefs, but has no problem having an aid put his subway token in the machine so he can ride the train, or pick up the phone for him or etc etc etc......
<< Gore actually went to Viet Nam. >>
Bahahahaha! He was defined under the term REMF -- Rear Echelon Mother-F***er. He was no closer to the war than George W. was in actuality. Then he goes on to lie about it in later years in saying that he pulled guard duty at a firebase -- a lie he later retracted. Honest Al, I tell ya.
It was a wisely calculated move for someone being groomed for public office, I'll grant you that. Patriotic and heroic? Give me a break.
True, George W. didn't create the Internet, but I guess Al is the only one to claim title to that achievement. Yep, Al is a brilliant one!!! It wouldn't have been so bad if his people hadn't tried to DEFEND his statement. Did he ever retract that?
Harvey: On the Democratic side, speaking of sucking sounds at the White House...
Andrew:
At least he did not let his daddy pull strings and get him in a cushy National Gaurd job (that he could not even hold--he had to "take a vacation" to help someone's political campaign) to assure that he went no where near the action.
At least he did not let his daddy pull strings and get him in a cushy National Gaurd job (that he could not even hold--he had to "take a vacation" to help someone's political campaign) to assure that he went no where near the action.
Geez, are you that naive to assume that Gore, Sr., didn't pull strings to keep Al in a cushy REMF job? Come on! There was no way in hell Al Jr. was going to combat, and it would look good on his resume if he was in country but in a nice, safe place. By the time, Al was at that firebase (name eludes me right now), there was basically NO enemy activity in the area, and I don't believe there were any rocket or mortar attacks even.
If Bush was flying, he was more at risk of dying than Gore was being at that base in Nam.
If Bush was flying, he was more at risk of dying than Gore was being at that base in Nam.
I'm not voting for Bush but lets keep things fair:
<< Gore has an interest in preserving our environment. >>
Sure, by having government buy all our land. And did you know the government is one of the worst polluters in the US? What's he done about that? His idea of excellence in environmental preservation is to increase taxation on fossil fuels. That sure has helped Americans a great deal recently.
<< Gore has an interest in keeping the taxation levels the same on the rich, and reducing the taxation levels on the poor. >>
Yet again the middle class, the most plentiful, gets to soak. Who's on our side?
<< Gore has an interest in allowing the economy to remain as it is, rather than "tinkering" with it. >>
The economy is its own animal. Even if he could affect it he wouldn't know how.
<< Gore has a better grasp on international politics--at least he knows what is going on in other countries. >>
No first term president is an expert at foreign policy. Gore has a built-in advantage but it wouldn't take the next president long to learn the ropes.
<< Gore's first important decision as a candidate was picking Joe Leiberman as his VP--one of the most honest men in Washington. >>
Bush picked Chenny, a man with a perfect record and who is regarded has having the highest integrity in Washington.
<< Gore has an extensive record as a public servant. >>
So does Bush.
<< Gore actually went to Viet Nam. >>
Gore was a journalist. He stayed away from the fighting. He had unofficial body guards (other soliders to keep in impromptu eye on him).
Anyway, the point is both rep. and dem. candidates are weak. IMO we'd be better served about someone who actually cared about the middle class and doing what's right. These guys ain't it and neither are their parties.
<< Gore has an interest in preserving our environment. >>
Sure, by having government buy all our land. And did you know the government is one of the worst polluters in the US? What's he done about that? His idea of excellence in environmental preservation is to increase taxation on fossil fuels. That sure has helped Americans a great deal recently.
<< Gore has an interest in keeping the taxation levels the same on the rich, and reducing the taxation levels on the poor. >>
Yet again the middle class, the most plentiful, gets to soak. Who's on our side?
<< Gore has an interest in allowing the economy to remain as it is, rather than "tinkering" with it. >>
The economy is its own animal. Even if he could affect it he wouldn't know how.
<< Gore has a better grasp on international politics--at least he knows what is going on in other countries. >>
No first term president is an expert at foreign policy. Gore has a built-in advantage but it wouldn't take the next president long to learn the ropes.
<< Gore's first important decision as a candidate was picking Joe Leiberman as his VP--one of the most honest men in Washington. >>
Bush picked Chenny, a man with a perfect record and who is regarded has having the highest integrity in Washington.
<< Gore has an extensive record as a public servant. >>
So does Bush.
<< Gore actually went to Viet Nam. >>
Gore was a journalist. He stayed away from the fighting. He had unofficial body guards (other soliders to keep in impromptu eye on him).
Anyway, the point is both rep. and dem. candidates are weak. IMO we'd be better served about someone who actually cared about the middle class and doing what's right. These guys ain't it and neither are their parties.
"Boberfett: Would you rather have a liar doing brain surgery on you (who has a great record as a brain surgeon), or an idiot (who has a great record as an idiot)? "
A more correct version would be: Would you rather have a liar doing brain surgery on you (who has a great record as a brain surgeon), or an idiot (who has a great record as an idiot)? or a 3rd party great but dead brain surgeon. If you choose the dead brain surgeon you automatically get the idiot.
Jellybaby,
A perfect record for cheney? Ever look at his ultra conservative voting record? It makes me want to hurl. Anyways, he was just picked to appease the ultra conservative wing of the party.
A more correct version would be: Would you rather have a liar doing brain surgery on you (who has a great record as a brain surgeon), or an idiot (who has a great record as an idiot)? or a 3rd party great but dead brain surgeon. If you choose the dead brain surgeon you automatically get the idiot.
Jellybaby,
A perfect record for cheney? Ever look at his ultra conservative voting record? It makes me want to hurl. Anyways, he was just picked to appease the ultra conservative wing of the party.
Zucchini,
perhaps I should have said unblemished credentials instead of perfect record...that's what I meant. Yes, he leans more right than Shrub.
Picked to appease ultra conservatives? I wonder. Dubya had tens of millions donated to him "before" he even announced his candidacy, much from the far right. They want to win this election very, very much. I feel he was picked because he was a safe bet.
perhaps I should have said unblemished credentials instead of perfect record...that's what I meant. Yes, he leans more right than Shrub.
Picked to appease ultra conservatives? I wonder. Dubya had tens of millions donated to him "before" he even announced his candidacy, much from the far right. They want to win this election very, very much. I feel he was picked because he was a safe bet.
glenn1
Lifer
- Sep 6, 2000
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What a troll post... If Bush gets elected, life will go on, and the Republic will survive. The Democrats always liked to joke that Reagan was less than a genius, and we did fine. The Republicans always liked to joke that Clinton has the morals of an alley cat, and we did fine. Hell, this country even survived Jimmy Carter and the "killer rabbit incident," so i don't think that the apocalypse will be upon us no matter who wins in November. I'm a Republican myself, but i'm not going to freak if Al wins. Some folks (who shall remain nameless out of courtesy) just need to take a deep breath, and realize that W. is not the Anti-Christ, even if he is *gasp* a conservative. Ditto for the other side.
glenn,
you seem to be brainlocked into the two-party, status quo, "things are good enough" mentality. I feel sorry for you. I'm aiming higher. Vote third-party! Give the Libertarians a looksie: http://www.lp.org/. Put some independents and other third-party amercians in office and get these quid pro quo losers out of power before you have none yourself.
you seem to be brainlocked into the two-party, status quo, "things are good enough" mentality. I feel sorry for you. I'm aiming higher. Vote third-party! Give the Libertarians a looksie: http://www.lp.org/. Put some independents and other third-party amercians in office and get these quid pro quo losers out of power before you have none yourself.
glenn1
Lifer
- Sep 6, 2000
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Jelly...
I don't have a problem with Libertarians.... heck, i split right down the middle on conservative/libertarian tests. Unfortunately, in my state/district there are no libertarian candidates running for political offices of any importance, and although i agree with many of Harry Browne's positions, he's got a snowball's chance in hell of winning outright (although the inherent sense of some of his ideas might end up resonating with the American people, and finding a champion in a Bush administration). If for no other reason than that, i'm glad Mr. Browne is running
I don't have a problem with Libertarians.... heck, i split right down the middle on conservative/libertarian tests. Unfortunately, in my state/district there are no libertarian candidates running for political offices of any importance, and although i agree with many of Harry Browne's positions, he's got a snowball's chance in hell of winning outright (although the inherent sense of some of his ideas might end up resonating with the American people, and finding a champion in a Bush administration). If for no other reason than that, i'm glad Mr. Browne is running
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