I already have a big screen hdtv at my house, so it makes a lot more sence to add $300 and have the ultimate gaming machine (for a while at least) than spend at least a grand on a new high end PC. And if history has taugh us anything, the consoles will outclass the PC's available at the time of their release, they always do.
I'm not saying a console will replace the PC. Yeah you can't have MS word on a console, but I don't want MS word on a console, I already have a PC to do that. What I want a console is play games at insane resolutions with top quality graphics and high fps, and the PS3 will let me do that.
I'm not saying a console will replace the PC. Yeah you can't have MS word on a console, but I don't want MS word on a console, I already have a PC to do that. What I want a console is play games at insane resolutions with top quality graphics and high fps, and the PS3 will let me do that.
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:thumbsup: - you are not alone in that sentiment.
Enjoy buying all those pricey games for your PS3 and XBox360, kids ... I'm playing ET for FREE two years after it was released. That's called getting your moneys worth, even though I spent more for my PC compared to a console. Besides, upgrading and repairing my PC has led to a job in the IT tech field for me. Think playing that console is gonna get you a JOB ??
PC rules, there's nothing consoles do that PCs can't. Next gen cards will be nearly as fast as consoles (which I think will be limited by the 700mhz GDDR3), and next gen will be much faster and complex, with DX10...
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...And you are going to pay with your pair of balls for the new hardware, but what do you actually get in return?.Seems like in the end its Nvidia and ATI that are laughing their way to the bank.
Nvidia RSX!?!? What's next? The TSX, and then the ultra SLI version NSX?
First they come up with the GeForce 6800 GT and GTO, now this!
I want a GeForce 7 Mugen SiR, will that be available?
First they come up with the GeForce 6800 GT and GTO, now this!
I want a GeForce 7 Mugen SiR, will that be available?
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Yeah, but there's nothing new about that.
I was wondering. 2x6800 Ultra's cannot be fed fast enough even from the fastest CPU that exists today from AMD for PC's. Why in the world should we think that it could feed a single G70, nevermind two. Thoughts?
Yeah, your right. Who wants to play games at 1920x1080. I mean, that resoulution is so low. :disgust:
Have to wait for DC chips and multihreaded games.
I am guessing 18 months at a min before it really makes a big difference.
The hardware will show up in about a month but the software will lag behind as usual.
You have to think the next generation engines will be the first to really take advantage of multi-threading. When are those due to show up? Unreal 3 engine is what, 12-18 months off still?
You have to think the next generation engines will be the first to really take advantage of multi-threading. When are those due to show up? Unreal 3 engine is what, 12-18 months off still?
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This is what everyone has been saying for a while. Multi-core won't benefit gamers until games become multi-threaded, which will take some time. I for one am usually quite supportive of hopping onto the latest video card upgrade because it tends to be quite rewarding from a visual standpoint. This year, however, there simply doesn't seem to be enough cpu power to keep up with the video card except at extremely high resolutions. If the next generation of consoles is released in a timely manner at a reasonable price point, such as $300, it would make sense to skip the PC upgrade this year and get a console instead. It really depends on when the consoles actually become available to the public though...
Im sure theyve been coding Halo 3s threads for quite a while now
Seriously though, these consoles are going hasten the speed of Multithread titles for the PC. So even if i dont get an Xbox or PS3 (ill prolly get both) id welcome their release.
Seriously though, these consoles are going hasten the speed of Multithread titles for the PC. So even if i dont get an Xbox or PS3 (ill prolly get both) id welcome their release.
The CPU limitations are mostly with older games, and at lower resolution settings. Doom3 at 1080p res with full AA/AF (especially NVIDIA's FSAA+MSAA setting) will be GPU-limited on any single video card. As will SC:CT with soft shadows, FarCry with HDR, etc. Sure, if you want to play Quake3 or Counter-Strike, you'll be CPU-limited no matter what settings you pick. But I'd hardly consider it an issue if you're "CPU-limited" to 100+FPS at maximum res/quality settings.
The games to push next-gen hardware are coming. You'll note that the next-gen hardware is not actually here yet either. I would hope that for a good 6-12 months after the release of a new piece of high-end hardware (especially when it nearly doubles performance over the previous high-end, as NV4X SLI did), that hardware is fast enough to run existing games at max settings without a problem.
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but, Halo 2 isn't even out for PC yet...Originally posted by: Acanthus
Im sure theyve been coding Halo 3s threads for quite a while now
Good point.
Low and behold the reason why I have long-proclaimed SLi SUCKS!
I hope ROLO or whatever that sli lover's name is, realizes that he has been preaching the wrong psalm!
Nice trolling.
http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=2206
Says June 22nd "launch"- how long till retail availability? At anywhere near MSRP?
And how will the launch of this card diminish the enjoyment I've gotten out of SLI for months now, and will continue to get after this card is launched if I choose not to buy it?
Did you not expect new, faster cards to come out? I know I did?
People like you play a foolish game- wait for the next big thing so you can say you have the fastest card. The problem is, something else will always be right around the corner waiting to trump your purchase, it's just a question of how many months.
In any case- I don't regret SLI. My monitor does 16X12 at 85Hz, and there's not a game out there my 6800GTs can't shred at 16X12 4X8X or higher. That won't change because the next gen of cards comes out.
i dont care i hope it comes out sept so ill start putting aside doe and recyle my x800 and laugh at games when playing and laugh at my friends
mx440 lol
mx440 lol
Keysplayr
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Do you think your "proclaimation" is going to stop people from purchasing SLI'd G70's?
Hardly. No doubt you and the rest of the "my opinion must rule over all" crowd will rage against SLI and AMR when they come out. You shouldn't try to force your opinion. The human condition triggers an opposite effect (to rage against). Anyway, crawl back under that rock o' yours.
Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Do you think your "proclaimation" is going to stop people from purchasing SLI'd G70's?
Hardly. No doubt you and the rest of the "my opinion must rule over all" crowd will rage against SLI and AMR when they come out. You shouldn't try to force your opinion. The human condition triggers an opposite effect (to rage against). Anyway, crawl back under that rock o' yours.
? :roll:
cheestogo dude you think everyone has hdtv lets see...no ,how many people know what resolution is not many? Im not talking about you im talking about parents buying there sons this system plus.wow your cool all you can do is play games thats so amazing ,wow i really want one.I bet in sept xbox and ps3 will be beaten by the pc once again.dude fukc xbox and ps3 all you can do is play the same old games that come out but better graphics,but wait a minute I wouldnt want my pc cause xbox is so cool and the so many thing you can do with it LOL,its like having a porsche and you can only ride around the block with it how fun is that gonna last,g70 in sli will beat it and all you sli haters sli will get much more advance its still real early right know so its knew.
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Originally posted by: ronnn
Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Do you think your "proclaimation" is going to stop people from purchasing SLI'd G70's?
Hardly. No doubt you and the rest of the "my opinion must rule over all" crowd will rage against SLI and AMR when they come out. You shouldn't try to force your opinion. The human condition triggers an opposite effect (to rage against). Anyway, crawl back under that rock o' yours.
? :roll:
Want I should explain my post to you ronnn? Or are you just in the mood to start something...
Man who cares about resolution, Gran Turismo looks great on my 15'' standard 15 year old Sony tv. Sure higher resolution looks better but the same parents you are talking about don't care about that because it looks fine on a normal tv aswell. And now iv'e a nice question for you: what can you play on pc what you can't play on the upcoming consoles?
Btw also nice to now, the full specs of the GeForce 7800 GTX chip:
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0.11 micron process TSMC
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430Mhz core / 1.2GHz 256MB GDDR3 memory
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256-bit memory interface
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38.4GB/s memory bandwidth
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24 pixels per clock
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10.32Bps Fill Rate
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8 Vertex Pipes
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860M vertices/second
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400MHz RAMDACs
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NVIDIA CineFX 4.0 engine
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Intellisample 4.0 technology
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64-bit FP texture filtering & blending
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NVIDIA SLI Ready (7800 GTX only)
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DX 9.0 / SM 3.0 & OpenGL 2.0 supported
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G70 comes with 3 models; GTX, GT and Standard
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Single Slot solution
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Single card requires min. 400W PSU with 12V rating of 26A
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SLI configuration requires min. 500W PSU with 12V rating of 34A
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Launch : 22nd of June
can you use programs surf the net no you are limited thats what im saying the ps3 wont last
go ahead buy one see how long it will last against pc lol they are wanna be computers there trying to be like them so badly they even hired nvdia whichs makes video cards,tell them to make a diesgn by them selfs and stop using pc makers to make their shite letsee...flop?
go ahead buy one see how long it will last against pc lol they are wanna be computers there trying to be like them so badly they even hired nvdia whichs makes video cards,tell them to make a diesgn by them selfs and stop using pc makers to make their shite letsee...flop?
And do you need a high-end game pc to surf the net and type in Word? No, my P4 2,6ghz pc will be able to do that for a long time. That still leaves the question: what can you really play on the pc what you won't be able to play on the upcoming consoles?
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