The future replacement for dvd!

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Blu-Ray aims to take over from
DVD

New discs hold six times more

By INQUIRER staff: Thursday 13 February 2003, 14:30

A CONSORTIUM OF COMPANIES has started to license
production technology for Blu-Ray in the hope of stealing a march
on competitors. The new discs have enough capacity to hold 13
hours of video.


The discs hold up to 27 gigabytes on a layer that is similar to the
way that DVDs work but the new drives will use a blue laser to read
the discs. Current DVD players use a red laser. Blue lasers have a
shorter wavelength allowing them to focus on a smaller area which
in turn means that more information can be crammed onto a disc.

The gang of nine, Sony, Matsushita, Hitachi, Pioneer, Sharp,
Samsung, LG, Philips and Thomson, pooled their resources in the
hope of creating a definitive standard. Toshiba and NEC are known
to be working on a competing platform but it is looking increasingly
like they will be left in the cold.

There has been no indication yet as to when the first Blu-Ray
players will become available. With the immense take up of DVD
over the last few years, the new format is going to have a struggle to
get going unless it offers something very special.
 

tk149

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Very cool. Blue lasers...mmmmm....<drool>...

When will they mount them on sharks? :)

I bet the MPAA goes berzerk though. They'll demand a tax on every blu-dvd sold because of pirating. Just like VCR tapes.
 

iamme

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with these new super high capacity discs coming out, how will this affect movies currently out? let's say in a few years HD-DVD or whatever becomes the standard. will they re-release movies at a super high bitrate? or do movies from that point on have to be shot with better cameras to look even better?
 

NuclearFusi0n

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Originally posted by: iamme
with these new super high capacity discs coming out, how will this affect movies currently out? let's say in a few years HD-DVD or whatever becomes the standard. will they re-release movies at a super high bitrate? or do movies from that point on have to be shot with better cameras to look even better?

movies are usually shot on film which has a damn near unlimited bitrate and resolution.
 

achiral

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i am a moron. why would this extra space on a disc be better than dvd? i mean i know eventually there will be a replacement, but will it by like dvd audio where the extra space is used to give the music justice by using more space to create the music? i don't get it
 

RaynorWolfcastle

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Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
Originally posted by: HombrePequeno
I wish FMDs would have taken off. The Blu-Rays 27 gigs paled in comparison to FMDs 140.

what are fmds?

fluorescent multi-layer disks... basically a technology that allowed something like 100 layers on a disk. I believe the company pushing them is called Constellation 3d or something similar. Google it up if you want mre info :)
 

Zugzwang152

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nah, its likely that this new standard won't be ready for the public for another couple years. I myself won't be moving away from CD-R's until then, if it becomes a standard. I'd also rather see huge increases in resolution and video quality rather than just being able to cram more hours of current quality onto a single disc.
 

pulse8

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Originally posted by: NuclearFusi0n
Originally posted by: iamme
with these new super high capacity discs coming out, how will this affect movies currently out? let's say in a few years HD-DVD or whatever becomes the standard. will they re-release movies at a super high bitrate? or do movies from that point on have to be shot with better cameras to look even better?

movies are usually shot on film which has a damn near unlimited bitrate and resolution.

It's not unlimited resolution, but most older movies have prints still available for such an occasion.
 

SWirth86

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Originally posted by: HombrePequeno
I wish FMDs would have taken off. The Blu-Rays 27 gigs paled in comparison to FMDs 140.
Man I remember that...
They (Constellation 3d) went bankrupt didnt they?

And there could be credit cards with 5 gigs of data...
::Sigh::
 

Shaka

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My cynicism says this tech won't be out for consumers for another couple of years.
 

NuclearFusi0n

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Originally posted by: pulse8
Originally posted by: NuclearFusi0n
Originally posted by: iamme
with these new super high capacity discs coming out, how will this affect movies currently out? let's say in a few years HD-DVD or whatever becomes the standard. will they re-release movies at a super high bitrate? or do movies from that point on have to be shot with better cameras to look even better?

movies are usually shot on film which has a damn near unlimited bitrate and resolution.

It's not unlimited resolution, but most older movies have prints still available for such an occasion.

it's analog - the resolution is limited by the telecine device, not the film.
 

EvilYoda

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Yeah, I think a lot of us have been waiting for blu-ray or blue lasers in general for a while now.....as soon as I see some screenshots or physical pictures of players, I'll start getting excited again. :)
 

pulse8

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Originally posted by: NuclearFusi0n
Originally posted by: pulse8
Originally posted by: NuclearFusi0n
Originally posted by: iamme
with these new super high capacity discs coming out, how will this affect movies currently out? let's say in a few years HD-DVD or whatever becomes the standard. will they re-release movies at a super high bitrate? or do movies from that point on have to be shot with better cameras to look even better?

movies are usually shot on film which has a damn near unlimited bitrate and resolution.

It's not unlimited resolution, but most older movies have prints still available for such an occasion.

it's analog - the resolution is limited by the telecine device, not the film.

Sure it is. Why do you think IMAX exists? If there was no basic resolution to film, 8mm would've been plenty.
 

Bignate603

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Originally posted by: NuclearFusi0n
Originally posted by: pulse8
Originally posted by: NuclearFusi0n
Originally posted by: iamme
with these new super high capacity discs coming out, how will this affect movies currently out? let's say in a few years HD-DVD or whatever becomes the standard. will they re-release movies at a super high bitrate? or do movies from that point on have to be shot with better cameras to look even better?

movies are usually shot on film which has a damn near unlimited bitrate and resolution.

It's not unlimited resolution, but most older movies have prints still available for such an occasion.

it's analog - the resolution is limited by the telecine device, not the film.

There is a limit to the resolution. If you keep zooming in do you expect the picture to remain perfect? No, it gets grainy.