The future of electric vehicles.

[LordRaiden]

Just curious if you guys think that electric vehicles will ever take off. I think they will, but it will be a number of years before the technology reaches the point of making it practical. Of course if the oil companies would keep their greedy fingers out of it, it wouldn't be an issue. Oh well.

With the advances in electric motor technology these days, I forsee it becoming mainstream in another 5-10 years, even if the auto makers don't really want it to succeed. Not sure why. They will have plenty of room to rape people with minor upgrades for years with the new electrics unliked the perty much maxed out gasoline engine designs currently in use. Hybrids I believe are a good step forward in that area too.

 

[cavemanmoron]

Originally posted by: LordRaiden
Just curious if you guys think that electric vehicles will ever take off. I think they will, but it will be a number of years before the technology reaches the point of making it practical. Of course if the oil companies would keep their greedy fingers out of it, it wouldn't be an issue. Oh well.

With the advances in electric motor technology these days, I forsee it becoming mainstream in another 5-10 years, even if the auto makers don't really want it to succeed. Not sure why. They will have plenty of room to rape people with minor upgrades for years with the new electrics unliked the perty much maxed out gasoline engine designs currently in use. Hybrids I believe are a good step forward in that area too.

Hybrids I believe are a good step forward in that area too.

Hybrids make much more sense to me.

gasoline,and diesel are easily available.
If i bought an all electric vehicle;i have no driveway,where would i recharge it?
I can not park in front of my home 7 days a week,{Alternate parking}
and what do you do in the winter,when we get 24+ inches of snow at a time,twice,in 8 days;like this past winter.

All electric is nice if you are in the sunbelt but;not here in Upstate NY

 

[LordRaiden]

Originally posted by: cavemanmoron
All electric is nice if you are in the sunbelt but;not here in Upstate NY

You do make a good point. It is kinda cold up there. Way too cold for an electric only to work right. Hmm. Maybe it would be better to go all electric in the sunbelt, hybrid in the mid areas, then in the areas where it's too cold for even a hybrid (Mich, Wisc, etc) then promote hybrids with the ability to go either hybrid power, or direct drive where the engine doesn't run the generator but rather sends power directly to the tires. That would work.

Now big vehicles like construction vehicles and Semi's I think would have to stay on gas/deisel for a while till the hybrid tech had grown far enough to allow them to switch to hybrid. All commuter and family vehicles, or those below a certain weight would be required to be at least a hybrid or preferably a hydrogen or electric powered vehicle.

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: LordRaiden

Originally posted by: cavemanmoron
All electric is nice if you are in the sunbelt but;not here in Upstate NY

You do make a good point. It is kinda cold up there. Way too cold for an electric only to work right. Hmm. Maybe it would be better to go all electric in the sunbelt, hybrid in the mid areas, then in the areas where it's too cold for even a hybrid (Mich, Wisc, etc) then promote hybrids with the ability to go either hybrid power, or direct drive where the engine doesn't run the generator but rather sends power directly to the tires. That would work.

Now big vehicles like construction vehicles and Semi's I think would have to stay on gas/deisel for a while till the hybrid tech had grown far enough to allow them to switch to hybrid. All commuter and family vehicles, or those below a certain weight would be required to be at least a hybrid or preferably a hydrogen or electric powered vehicle.

If i remeber correctly heat is the enemy of electricity....cold makes it more efficient.




I think the most innovative electrical innovation to date has been the gasoelctric motor.


Now toyota is making a new engine that will be able to use stored electricity for extreme acceleration.
APpearantly it makes a v6 haul ass like a V8 instead of the wimpy start most of those cars have now

 

[Eli]

They are certainly the future, but we have to get rid of batteries first.

Once fuel cells become a viable alternative, batteries will go byebye.

 

[cavemanmoron]

you ever notice a train Locomotive?

the current ones are electric powered,with diesel Generators,that produce the electiricity to run the electric motors

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: cavemanmoron
you ever notice a train Locomotive?

the current ones are electric powered,with diesel Generators,that produce the electiricity to run the electric motors

One word:

Torque.

 

[LordRaiden]

Originally posted by: Eli
They are certainly the future, but we have to get rid of batteries first.

Once fuel cells become a viable alternative, batteries will go byebye.

Well, this is true. But the batteries will still be useful as a buffer because fuel cells can't make the rapid changes in current demand that a battery can. So the battery could be used to assist the fuel cells to some degree giving power when it's needed and storing excess when it's not.

 

[Ylen13]

i do not see my self buying an electrical vehicle in the next 20 years or so

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: LordRaiden

Originally posted by: Eli
They are certainly the future, but we have to get rid of batteries first.

Once fuel cells become a viable alternative, batteries will go byebye.

Well, this is true. But the batteries will still be useful as a buffer because fuel cells can't make the rapid changes in current demand that a battery can. So the battery could be used to assist the fuel cells to some degree giving power when it's needed and storing excess when it's not.

Hmm... Really?

So even if a fuel cell is rated at say, 2000Ah, it can't instantly go from a a few amps to full output virtually instantly like a battery could? Interesting.. seems strange though.

Anyway, even if thats the case.. perhaps they would use batteries, but large capacitors may be a better alternative..

 

[Legendary]

I drive a Civic Hybrid and I must say, I hope Hybrids come into the forefront. It's a damn nice car (for its class) and it accelerates pretty well to boot. 40 mpg in city driving is great for me. I think it gets 55ish on highways.

 

[LordRaiden]

Originally posted by: Eli
Anyway, even if thats the case.. perhaps they would use batteries, but large capacitors may be a better alternative..

Yeah, I like that idea better. Capacitors would require almost zero maintenance. That would be a ++ for the fuel cell cars.