The future of DVD Burners

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merrimackjay

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Hello,

I recently assembled a new system for myself, but the one thing I didn't get is a DVD-Burner. I didn't get it because 8X drives are still fairly new, I wasn't sure if prices would be going down more, and I wasn't sure what the future of DVD-burners was. Does anyone know:

When are 12x and 16x burners coming out?

When are dual-layer-capable burners coming out?

When either of these things come out, will 8x drive prices go down right away, or not until a few months later?

Whats up with media? 8x media is still hard to find, and when found quite pricey. Will dual-layer media not even be available at a reasonable price until dual-layer drives have been out for a year?

Lastly, would you recommend just getting an 8x drive now, or waiting for one of these new types of burners or a price reduction on the 8xs?

Discuss. :)

 
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nanyangview

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DVD burners will top out at 16X, anything faster will result in media unstability which can results in shattering. That is the speed limit of our current DVD medias
 
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Belzer

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DVD burners that support 12x DVD+R will be announced at Cebit (LG has already announced one and for example Plextor is rumoured to do the same). Also dual layer DVD+R writers will be announced at Cebit (Philips has already announced one model).
Drives should show up on the market in late spring or summer.
 
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merrimackjay

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Belzer, what is Cebit?

So when these 16x and/or dual-layer drives come out in late spring or summer, would they be worth buying, or is it always good to wait a few generations for new burning technology?
 
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Runamile

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There is the Blu-ray vs. HD-DVD war emerging.
Here is some news on sony's new blu-ray recorder going on sale soon. 23GB sure does look good.

Here , under section 3.13, is a chart that shows some emerging formats.

Personally, I wouldn't buy anything like this because the prices will be outragous, but so were CD-R burners when they first came out. I am still waiting for the ~100GB holographic CDs that are sitting in research labs!
 
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JackBurton

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Originally posted by: Runamile
There is the Blu-ray vs. HD-DVD war emerging.
Here is some news on sony's new blu-ray recorder going on sale soon. 23GB sure does look good.

Here , under section 3.13, is a chart that shows some emerging formats.

Personally, I wouldn't buy anything like this because the prices will be outragous, but so were CD-R burners when they first came out. I am still waiting for the ~100GB holographic CDs that are sitting in research labs!
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We need at least a 25GB discs to record a 2hr HD broadcast. It's good to know that 25GB and 27GB Blu-Ray discs could be avaiable. 100GB discs would be nothing short of AWESOME!

 
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Chadder007

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Originally posted by: Runamile
There is the Blu-ray vs. HD-DVD war emerging.
Here is some news on sony's new blu-ray recorder going on sale soon. 23GB sure does look good.

Here , under section 3.13, is a chart that shows some emerging formats.

Personally, I wouldn't buy anything like this because the prices will be outragous, but so were CD-R burners when they first came out. I am still waiting for the ~100GB holographic CDs that are sitting in research labs!
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Yeah, what ever happened to those Illuminous disks that were supposed to hold a large amount of data even before DVD Burners came out??? Was it 100GBs they would hold??
 
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mrweirdo

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were are those polymorphic xray blue orb holographic ectoplasmic dvds :D j/k
/me somehow thinks of futurama when making that up lol
 
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parsley007

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bump...i was wondering the exact same thing...now you can get a 8x burner for around ~75 after rebates, but i didn't know if it would be better just to wait until the dual layer ones became available..
 
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Davegod

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wait for x12
wait forl x12 reasonably priced
wait for dual layer
wait fo rdual layer reasonably priced
wait for x16
wait for blu ray
wait for....

If a x8 fits what you need, just get a x8 speed now. prices will keep going down steadily.
 
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CraigRT

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mmm dual layer... I will get a dual layer burner as soon as them and the media come out.. sweet :D
 
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mrweirdo

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somewere i heard liteon is coming out with a 16x dual layer burner in may. Cant rember were though :/
 
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Sid59

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Originally posted by: orion7144
LiteOn announced that they are may skip the 12X and going striaght to the 16X.
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wow. i can handle that. 16x dual layer, dual format .. mmmm - i don't know if that article implies dual layer, but it would be sweet if it did.
 
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Pariah

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I got the impression from reading the news bit, that dual drive means DVD+R and DVD-R, not dual layer.
 
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Sid59

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Originally posted by: Pariah
I got the impression from reading the news bit, that dual drive means DVD+R and DVD-R, not dual layer.
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me too.. but i can hope.
 
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HSH

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Good morning to all, this is my first post here...
And sorry for my english....
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I was pretty tired to wait for dual layer and other things, so I ordered a Pio 107 - ready for 8x also if media are not available yet in my contry.
What do you think ?
 
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mcveigh

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Originally posted by: HSH
Good morning to all, this is my first post here...
And sorry for my english....
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I was pretty tired to wait for dual layer and other things, so I ordered a Pio 107 - ready for 8x also if media are not available yet in my contry.
What do you think ?
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Welcome!!! :D


sorry I don't know the Pio brand :(
 
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LordJezo

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Will dual layer burnt DVDs be compatiable with today's DVD rom drives and players?

I want to back up my movies (for legal purposes like I do with my CDs) but don't want to be not able to play them on my TV.

I would go for a DVD burner now but it just seems silly to buy a burner now if the dual layer ones will make them obsolete in only a few months.

With a cd burner it was easy. A cd is a cd. But with DVD burners they couldnt even reach a standard ( + vs -) before they came out with a whole new format!!
 
Jeff7

Jeff7

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Originally posted by: LordJezo
Will dual layer burnt DVDs be compatiable with today's DVD rom drives and players?

I want to back up my movies (for legal purposes like I do with my CDs) but don't want to be not able to play them on my TV.

I would go for a DVD burner now but it just seems silly to buy a burner now if the dual layer ones will make them obsolete in only a few months.

With a cd burner it was easy. A cd is a cd. But with DVD burners they couldnt even reach a standard ( + vs -) before they came out with a whole new format!!
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I would hope so. Commercial DVD's are dual layer already.

Welcome to the standards wars, as I understand it, bred out of corporate greed.
 
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HSH

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Pioneer's news says that first dual layer burner (model 109) will be presented in december 2004 and of course it will cost at least 300? (and for 1 empty DVD 10?).

So i think buying a single layer now doesn't mean to waste money, if you consider that in 10 months you can burn at least (considering 1 per week) 40 DVD, 450 GB! it's enough , isn't it ?
 
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LordJezo

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Originally posted by: Jeff7
Originally posted by: LordJezo
Will dual layer burnt DVDs be compatiable with today's DVD rom drives and players?

I want to back up my movies (for legal purposes like I do with my CDs) but don't want to be not able to play them on my TV.

I would go for a DVD burner now but it just seems silly to buy a burner now if the dual layer ones will make them obsolete in only a few months.

With a cd burner it was easy. A cd is a cd. But with DVD burners they couldnt even reach a standard ( + vs -) before they came out with a whole new format!!
Click to expand...

I would hope so. Commercial DVD's are dual layer already.

Welcome to the standards wars, as I understand it, bred out of corporate greed.
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There are standard wars, and then there is being stupid.

DVD is a standard. DVD-R can be read by everything that can read standard DVDs. DVD+R was a funky twist on all of that and it can't be read by everything.

I don't even know why DVD+r survives.. there is no need for it and it just causes headaches.

 
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