The full bin-laden video, the lowdown :-)

[Yvo]

Hey Guys,

I don't off post that much but I just saw the full version video of bin-laden's tape last night, its like 40 minutes long. Anywho... I noticed some interesting points. Now I trust our government, but there are documentaries out on if the moon landing was real (I believe it is), was the Alien operation video real of Roswell 1945. Now the world has been waiting for evidence if Bin-Laden really did blow up the world trade center (again, I believe it is). But I just noticed some interesting points in the video.

Starting off with the most interesting of all.

The film is dated on November 9th, 2001. Now one of Bin-Laden's people commented on how nice the night was and that the full moon was out. Now a simple check on the calendar and I notice that the full moon was out on November 1st. Now I could have misunderstood, but it's just very strange.

Bin-Laden, world terrorist, master mind of the 9-11 attack. Would he even allow to be video taped for over 40 minutes. Now if I was a little paranoid I would NEVER ever allow myself to be video taped that long.

The way the video tape was found is also strange. I mean whats the chance of finding this video in a city. I have even trouble finding a video tape in a 10ft by 14ft room.

I'll probably come up with more later, but I just find it strange... could this be a production of some backlot Hollywood studio.... I just learned to be a little precautious during these times.

My .02 cents,

Yvo

 

[Nil]

I don't think the moon is full at the same time everywhere on the planet. Do you live next door to him?

 

[StageLeft]

You know what? I'm not even gonna bother. It's legit. Seriously. Of course Lowtax disagrees (site may be down for a sec).

 

[Yvo]

If that were true, why is it marked on every calendar sold on the whole planet.... I mean I bought a calendar in China once and it marks the full moon correctly in Seattle. We have a Dutch calendar also from Amsterdam and it also marks the full moons correctly. More on this piece of info later (I'll check google)

Yvo

 

[UNCjigga]

Dude, they are Muslims. They like crescent moons. Maybe he was commenting on how it was a full crescent. We don't exactly have the greatest translation due to the quality of the tape.

BTW, what is the deal with Muslims and crescent moons? They like the shady side of things?? Can someone enlighten me?

 

[Nil]

I could be wrong... That sometimes happens... But I don't think so...


If I'm wrong, sorry yo!

 

[Yvo]

I am just that little voice in everyone's head that has doubt.

I have my doubts

Now here is a site on how the moon looked like on that day. Just type in the day, time and it will show you.

Moon Viewer

 

[Nil]

I'm to lazy to read all that. Where are these pics taken from?

 

[Yvo]

LOL.... very true uncJIGGA


But then again.... they had 5 different translator companies translate it and they combined a universal version.... would all of them have missed it?

 

[Amused]

Well, on 11/9 the moon was nearly half. Are we sure he said "full" or "big" or "bright"?

 

[Logix]

The only mention of the moon in the transcript:

Shaykh: (...inaudible...) You have given us weapons, you have given us hope and we thank Allah for you. We don?t want to take much of your time, but this is the arrangement of the brothers. People now are supporting us more, even those ones who did not support us in the past, support us more now. I did not want to take that much of your time. We praise Allah, we praise Allah. We came from Kabul. We were very pleased to visit. May Allah bless you both at home and the camp. We asked the driver to take us, it was a night with a full moon, thanks be to Allah. Believe me it is not in the country side. The elderly...everybody praises what you did, the great action you did, which was first and foremost by the grace of Allah. This is the guidance of Allah and the blessed fruit of jihad.

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It is used in the PAST tense. They may have travelled on Nov. 1 to their current location and are referring to their past trip, when the full moon was out.

 

[Yvo]

Just to be sure.... that does back my point. Right, logix....

 

[Aenygma]

I was going to come swooping in with that OBVIOUS answer, it was mentioned
in past tense , but I was beaten.


Your other points, to be nice are umm a tab silly.

 

[Amused]

<< Just to be sure.... that does back my point. Right, logix.... >>



Is the night they speak the night they traveled? It does appear to be past tense.

 

[pulse8]

You're trying too hard to look for something that isn't there. The translation cannot be taken to be literal. The mention of the moon does NOT mention which night they are talking about.

 

[Yvo]

Look... all I am saying that it just seems highly weird that what the world has been waiting for is suddenly found. Our government is anything but honest during war time... be honest everyone. The Kennedy conspiracy for one... why was he shot? Because he was a people person and couldn't hold his mouth. He believed in that the citizens were allowed to know everything.


Yvo

 

[gopunk]

as i've said before, if it was a fake video, do you really think *you* would be able to see the flaws?

 

[GasX]

As far as conspiracy theorists go, you're not a very good one...

 

[slipperyslope]

<< Look... all I am saying that it just seems highly weird that what the world has been waiting for is suddenly found. Our government is anything but honest during war time... be honest everyone. The Kennedy conspiracy for one... why was he shot? Because he was a people person and couldn't hold his mouth. He believed in that the citizens were allowed to know everything.


Yvo >>




GEEEZZZZZ. It was found. Big deal. It doesn't help us in the least. We are almost finished with Bin Ladin, how does it help us to find it now? Makes us look like we did the right thing. I personally don't care. Bin ladin should have been captured after the embassy bombings. Like most people I think we waited too long to go after this guy. He could be innocent of the WTC attack(I sure think he is guilty as hell) but he should skill be brought to justice.

Don't even start into the conspiracy crap.

Jim

 

[Draco]

<< Look... all I am saying that it just seems highly weird that what the world has been waiting for is suddenly found. Our government is anything but honest during war time... be honest everyone. The Kennedy conspiracy for one... why was he shot? Because he was a people person and couldn't hold his mouth. He believed in that the citizens were allowed to know everything.


Yvo >>



I'm with ya man, I think there is a good chance this tape is bunk. I wish it was real, but I have my doubts.

Regardless of it's validity, Bin Laden is a bad man and must be taken down I wish I had enough faith in our Government to believe this tape was real. Seems all to convenient though. *sigh*

 

[Yvo]

Thank you Draco!!!!

Jeez for a second there I thought I was the only one with a small piece of doubt.... it just seems too good to be true.... I mean foreign governments didn't want anything to do with this war on terrorism, because there was no evidence... this suddenly popped up and it just seems too good to be true.

 

[jpsj82]

what are the chances that someone would have a video camera that produced the wrong date because the person using it didn't know how to use it.

 

[etech]

"Look... all I am saying that it just seems highly weird that what the world has been waiting for is suddenly found. "

It's usually when I am looking for something the hardest that I find it. I would lay a bet that all Alliance troops in Afghanistan have orders to look for any intel they can get their hands on. I don't see the contradiction here.


It's usually when I am looking for something the hardest that I find it.
Well, usually I just yell and scream a bit and my wife comes and finds it for me.

 

[Lankin]

Yvo. LOL there IS evidence other than this tape, enough to convict bin laden. Russia has seen it, the UK has seen it, a few other countries actually helping us have seen it(Pakistan, Germany). The tape was to get the worlds muslim population on our side, but it obviously was a waste of time...

 

[Yvo]

True,

but what are the chances that you wanted to be video taped for over a hour.... especially if your wanted pretty badly....