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tweakmm

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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: jjsole
Its always cute to see a group of 94% non-black crowd of geeks debate who was the greatest rapper.
White people can't have opinions on rap?

Hell, I don't even want to open this up, but the white nerds are really the people who know whats up in the rap world right now, as pretty much everything good is released from the undeground and the underground word is spread through the internet.

:confused: I am pretty sure all the "hood" underground stuff is spreads throughout the hood without the use of internet.
I've been to a fair number of (underground) shows in the past an guess what the race breakup was? Whites outnumbered the blacks by a lage margin.
Hell at the RZA show he said, "I know you all just a bunch of white kids, but you all know whats up, the state of hip hop sucks, throw your motherfvcking Ws in the air".

what hood was this show in?
It was not in a hood.

that explains why everyone was white
See edit.
He implied it was like that at every show.

I'm sure Phily is a different story though. :laugh:
 

anxi80

Lifer
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i acknowledge what he has done for the genre, but other than that i just cant get into his music. sorry.
 

IceBergSLiM

Lifer
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Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: jjsole
Its always cute to see a group of 94% non-black crowd of geeks debate who was the greatest rapper.
White people can't have opinions on rap?

Hell, I don't even want to open this up, but the white nerds are really the people who know whats up in the rap world right now, as pretty much everything good is released from the undeground and the underground word is spread through the internet.

:confused: I am pretty sure all the "hood" underground stuff is spreads throughout the hood without the use of internet.
I've been to a fair number of (underground) shows in the past an guess what the race breakup was? Whites outnumbered the blacks by a lage margin.
Hell at the RZA show he said, "I know you all just a bunch of white kids, but you all know whats up, the state of hip hop sucks, throw your motherfvcking Ws in the air".

what hood was this show in?
It was not in a hood.
Admitedly it was in an area where there were not many black people, but he implied it was like that everywhere.

well no...white people are not the voice of the streets.
 

tweakmm

Lifer
May 28, 2001
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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: jjsole
Its always cute to see a group of 94% non-black crowd of geeks debate who was the greatest rapper.
White people can't have opinions on rap?

Hell, I don't even want to open this up, but the white nerds are really the people who know whats up in the rap world right now, as pretty much everything good is released from the undeground and the underground word is spread through the internet.

:confused: I am pretty sure all the "hood" underground stuff is spreads throughout the hood without the use of internet.
I've been to a fair number of (underground) shows in the past an guess what the race breakup was? Whites outnumbered the blacks by a lage margin.
Hell at the RZA show he said, "I know you all just a bunch of white kids, but you all know whats up, the state of hip hop sucks, throw your motherfvcking Ws in the air".

what hood was this show in?
It was not in a hood.
Admitedly it was in an area where there were not many black people, but he implied it was like that everywhere.

well no...white people are not the voice of the streets.
What?
 

IceBergSLiM

Lifer
Jul 11, 2000
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Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: jjsole
Its always cute to see a group of 94% non-black crowd of geeks debate who was the greatest rapper.
White people can't have opinions on rap?

Hell, I don't even want to open this up, but the white nerds are really the people who know whats up in the rap world right now, as pretty much everything good is released from the undeground and the underground word is spread through the internet.

:confused: I am pretty sure all the "hood" underground stuff is spreads throughout the hood without the use of internet.
I've been to a fair number of (underground) shows in the past an guess what the race breakup was? Whites outnumbered the blacks by a lage margin.
Hell at the RZA show he said, "I know you all just a bunch of white kids, but you all know whats up, the state of hip hop sucks, throw your motherfvcking Ws in the air".

what hood was this show in?
It was not in a hood.
Admitedly it was in an area where there were not many black people, but he implied it was like that everywhere.

well no...white people are not the voice of the streets.
What?

" I don't even want to open this up, but the white nerds are really the people who know whats up in the rap world right now, as pretty much everything good is released from the undeground and the underground word is spread through the internet."

you are wrong this is not at all true. White people are not the voice of the streets and wont ever be.
 

tweakmm

Lifer
May 28, 2001
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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: jjsole
Its always cute to see a group of 94% non-black crowd of geeks debate who was the greatest rapper.
White people can't have opinions on rap?

Hell, I don't even want to open this up, but the white nerds are really the people who know whats up in the rap world right now, as pretty much everything good is released from the undeground and the underground word is spread through the internet.

:confused: I am pretty sure all the "hood" underground stuff is spreads throughout the hood without the use of internet.
I've been to a fair number of (underground) shows in the past an guess what the race breakup was? Whites outnumbered the blacks by a lage margin.
Hell at the RZA show he said, "I know you all just a bunch of white kids, but you all know whats up, the state of hip hop sucks, throw your motherfvcking Ws in the air".

what hood was this show in?
It was not in a hood.
Admitedly it was in an area where there were not many black people, but he implied it was like that everywhere.

well no...white people are not the voice of the streets.
What?

" I don't even want to open this up, but the white nerds are really the people who know whats up in the rap world right now, as pretty much everything good is released from the undeground and the underground word is spread through the internet."

you are wrong this is not at all true. White people are not the voice of the streets and wont ever be.
The medium is changing my good sir.

However, I am done with this thread. :thumbsup:
 

Al Neri

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Jan 12, 2002
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I'm too ill, I represent Park Hill
See my face on the twenty dollar bill
Cash it in, and get ten dollars back
The fat LP with Cappachino on the wax
Pass it in your think, put valve up to twelve
Put all the other LP's back on the shelf
And smoke a blunt, and dial 9-1-7
1-6-0-4-9-3-11
And you can long d1ck hip-hop affection
I damage any MC who step in my direction


I'm Staten Island's best son fsck what you heard
N199az still talkin that shlt is absurd
My repotoire is U.S.S.R.
P.L.O. style got blown out the car
And run over, by the Method Man jeep
Divine can't define my style is so deep
like pssy, my low cut fade stay bushy
Like a porcupine, I part backs like a spine
Cut you like a blunt and reconstruct your design
I know you want to diss me, but I can read your mind
Cuz you weak in the knees like SWV
Tryin to get a title like Wu Killa Bee
Kid change your habit, you know I'm friends with the Abbot
Me and RZA ridin name printed in the tablet
Under vets, we paid our debts for mad years
Hibernate the sound, and now we out like beers
and blunt power, born physically power speakin
The truth in the song be the pro-black teachin!
 

Izzo

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May 30, 2003
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To the hip hop gurus of ATOT, where does Oukast's early work fall in the realm of the rap world?

 

IceBergSLiM

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Izzo
To the hip hop gurus of ATOT, where does Oukast's early work fall in the realm of the rap world?

they are all classics up to though stankonia. My personal favorite is aquemini
 

Al Neri

Diamond Member
Jan 12, 2002
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Originally posted by: Izzo
To the hip hop gurus of ATOT, where does Oukast's early work fall in the realm of the rap world?

atliens>*

throw yo hands in tha ay-errr
 

Cashmoney995

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Jul 12, 2002
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Honestly, how many people on Anandtech even knoe 20% of what Tupac, Biggie, Jay Z are even talking about.

If you have never lived in the ghetto, seen somebody get stabbed, seen over 50k in drugs. Then you havent seen shiat. And you won't be able to mentally percieve the genius that is hip hop and rap.

It is also my opinion that if you have not heard Tupac high...then you have not heard Tupac at all...

And where as this is the "off topic" forum. This discussion would be better suited to a website like allhiphop.com
 

IceBergSLiM

Lifer
Jul 11, 2000
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Originally posted by: Cashmoney995
Honestly, how many people on Anandtech even knoe 20% of what Tupac, Biggie, Jay Z are even talking about.

If you have never lived in the ghetto, seen somebody get stabbed, seen over 50k in drugs. Then you havent seen shiat. And you won't be able to mentally percieve the genius that is hip hop and rap.

It is also my opinion that if you have not heard Tupac high...then you have not heard Tupac at all...

And where as this is the "off topic" forum. This discussion would be better suited to a website like allhiphop.com

true talent in the rap game involves creating songs that can be enjoyed and interpreted on different levels by people from all walks of life.

Both biggie and pac were great at that.
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: jjsole
Its always cute to see a group of 94% non-black crowd of geeks debate who was the greatest rapper.

Well, I was just coming in the thread to vote for ytcracker... :p
 

Rip the Jacker

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Dec 29, 2004
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Originally posted by: Superself
Originally posted by: KingGheedora
All the people who say biggie sucks are clueless. Biggie was one of the greatest, if not the greatest rapper. His stuff was original, and sheer genius as far as rap goes.

The people who say Del, Immortal Techniques, Black Thought... come on. Try this test, get someone who doesn't listen to that stuff, to listen to it. You will find yourself embarassed to play it for them because you know it's just not that enjoyable to listen to. And hence, pretentious "real hip hop" fails the test.

Not to say that "real hip hop" isn't something real, and that it isn't better than the mainstream garbage on the air and on MTV... just that a lot of geeks take it overboard with listening to something obscure just to be different. Trust, me, I've listened to (and own CD's by most of these) to everything out there, from Biggie, Tupac, all the guys on Quannum and Anticon, Slug, Murs, Atmosphere, Black Thought, Tribe, Roots, Mos Def, Kurupt, Busta Rhymes, eminem, Dre, Snoop, Nelly, Jay-z, Nas, Binary Star, Black Star, People Under the Stairs, Little Brother, Del/Hieroglyphics, Easy-E, Too Short... plus all types of stuff from other genres, but we're only talking about rap here. When it comes down to it, Biggie is in a league of his own compared to most other rappers.

Elite Rappers:
Biggie
Eminem
A Tribe Called Quest

Not Quite Elite, but Significantly Greater than the Rest:
Jay-z (good at first, put out too much trash after initial success)
Snoop (ditto)
Nas (ditto)
Outkast (ditto, Speakerboxx sucked)
Mos Def (extremelly talented, but last album sucked, strayed away from hip hop)
Tupac


You and everyone else in this thread are dead wrong.

Best rapper ever is Rakim.

How could you mention anyone else??!! WTF is wrong with people?

Nas would be second...afterwhich there is a significant dropoff.


Hey! I mentioned Rakim

:p
 

Rip the Jacker

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Dec 29, 2004
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Originally posted by: Don Rodriguez
I'm too ill, I represent Park Hill
See my face on the twenty dollar bill
Cash it in, and get ten dollars back
The fat LP with Cappachino on the wax
Pass it in your think, put valve up to twelve
Put all the other LP's back on the shelf
And smoke a blunt, and dial 9-1-7
1-6-0-4-9-3-11
And you can long d1ck hip-hop affection
I damage any MC who step in my direction


I'm Staten Island's best son fsck what you heard
N199az still talkin that shlt is absurd
My repotoire is U.S.S.R.
P.L.O. style got blown out the car
And run over, by the Method Man jeep
Divine can't define my style is so deep
like pssy, my low cut fade stay bushy
Like a porcupine, I part backs like a spine
Cut you like a blunt and reconstruct your design
I know you want to diss me, but I can read your mind
Cuz you weak in the knees like SWV
Tryin to get a title like Wu Killa Bee
Kid change your habit, you know I'm friends with the Abbot
Me and RZA ridin name printed in the tablet
Under vets, we paid our debts for mad years
Hibernate the sound, and now we out like beers
and blunt power, born physically power speakin
The truth in the song be the pro-black teachin!

Canibus brings the sickest drama
fierce enough to pierce the thickest armor

I smack bitches who try to suck dick through the condom
playing with the mic is something I won't do
my only concern when I approach you, is to roast you
I smoke you and whoever you standing close to
and make every man in your crew deny that he knows you

defeating niggas like Segal, Steven
putting Emcees in positions to prevent them from breathin'
I'll make you question any and everything you've ever believed in
by peeping your deepest secrets like psychic readers

what's the matter with ya'll, I splatter ya'll
against the muthafuckin wall with these raw lyrics I catapult

none of ya'll got the balls big enough to battle
I go On & On like Erykah Badu
a hundred times nicer than the best is
twice as African as KRS is, who wanna test this?

Fvck y'all you don't impress me and no one can test me
an emcee so ill, I got AIDS scared to catch me

all that ****** you poppin' will stop, when I put you in a headlock,
and apply pressure until I crush your muthafuckin noggin

****
I grab mics and push niggas to the left
so fast their hearts end up on the right side of their chests


***
my hypothesis, is that nobody can see this
lyrical genius, i got it sown like a seamstress

but if you want to battle, I'm down
if you got nine lives, I'll take eight of them off your hands right now
step up and get your neck cut from ear to ear
if you survive then you can cover up your scar with a beard
I'm the illest from Queens to the new Jerusalem briddicks

anyone who ain't feeling my shiddit can suck my diddick
you need to quit it, if you ain't spittin'
more than 50 bars per minute cause you ain't in lyrical fitness
kickin' boring raps with metaphors that's wack
all of ya'll muthafuckas need Nordictrack
to get ya weight up, ****** with Canibus you get ate up
beat down and sprayed up, just for bringing my name up
been rockin' longer than niggas twice my age
back in the days before Bob Marley was rockin' a fade
before Honest Abe signed the paper that freed slaves
before Neanderthals was drawing on walls in caves
I existed, in the garden of Eden gettin' lifted
stickin' dick to Eve before she was Adam's mistress
before Christ created Christmas, I been in lyrical fitness
the Canibus is spittin' til' he's spitless
50 bars of total sickness, you won't forget this
I'm puttin' every wack emcee alive on my sh!t list
verbally vicious, telekinetically gifted
took you a minute to exhibit that I'm sick wit it

now you tell me who you think is damaging ******
going once, going twice
sold! to that ****** name Canibus
me and Mr.Cheeks, A-Plus, and Funk Doctor
hopping out the Huey helicopter to suey chop ya.
 

Rip the Jacker

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Originally posted by: Rip the Jacker
The best rapper of all time is Rakim. No need to dispute or argue. Just listen to Follow the Leader and Paid in Full, and realize that those lyrics were written in 86-88. This guy was too ahead of his time, almost no one is even near his level of skill (in his time, or even now), not to mention all the classic albums that he had.

Rakim is the closest to perfect in the world of rap.

 

blackllotus

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May 30, 2005
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I like Ludacris, Eminem, and Jay-Z because they actually have fun with some of their songs ("Rollout" is a classic in my mind regardless of what others think)

EDIT: And Dr. Dre
 

Rip the Jacker

Diamond Member
Dec 29, 2004
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Originally posted by: blackllotus
I like Ludacris, Eminem, and Jay-Z because they actually have fun with some of their songs ("Rollout" is a classic in my mind regardless of what others think)

It's a good mainstream song, and it's much better than the stuff that's out now. But that album nor the song isnt a real 'hip hop' classic IMO.
 

Superself

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Originally posted by: Rip the Jacker
Originally posted by: Rip the Jacker
The best rapper of all time is Rakim. No need to dispute or argue. Just listen to Follow the Leader and Paid in Full, and realize that those lyrics were written in 86-88. This guy was too ahead of his time, almost no one is even near his level of skill (in his time, or even now), not to mention all the classic albums that he had.

Rakim is the closest to perfect in the world of rap.

Thanks RTJ!!

My bad! lol