The Fiscal Burden of Illegal Immigration on U.S. Taxpayers

[boomerang]

The cost of mass deportations is huge at $135 Billion dollars.

Obama Official Admitted It’s Cheaper to Deport Illegals Than to Let Them Stay

On December 3, 2012, Department of Homeland Security Assistant Secretary for Legislative Affairs, Nelson Peacock, responding to requests from several lawmakers, including Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX), wrote: “Our conservative estimate suggests that ICE would require a budget of more than $135 billion to apprehend, detain and remove the nation’s entire illegal immigrant population.”

The annual cost of keeping them here is $113 Billion. Wait, that's almost as much as the cost of deporting them? Why are we allowing them to stay?

http://www.fairus.org/publications/the-fiscal-burden-of-illegal-immigration-on-u-s-taxpayers

Key Findings

• Illegal immigration costs U.S. taxpayers about $113 billion a year at the federal, state and local level. The bulk of the costs — some $84 billion — are absorbed by state and local governments.
• The annual outlay that illegal aliens cost U.S. taxpayers is an average amount per native-headed household of $1,117. The fiscal impact per household varies considerably because the greatest share of the burden falls on state and local taxpayers whose burden depends on the size of the illegal alien population in that locality
• Education for the children of illegal aliens constitutes the single largest cost to taxpayers, at an annual price tag of nearly $52 billion. Nearly all of those costs are absorbed by state and local governments.
• At the federal level, about one-third of outlays are matched by tax collections from illegal aliens. At the state and local level, an average of less than 5 percent of the public costs associated with illegal immigration is recouped through taxes collected from illegal aliens.
• Most illegal aliens do not pay income taxes. Among those who do, much of the revenues collected are refunded to the illegal aliens when they file tax returns. Many are also claiming tax credits resulting in payments from the U.S. Treasury.

It's a no-brainer. Deportation is the only avenue that makes sense. Unfortunately, the majority of that burden is at the state and local level, so the people that have the power to change policy have no incentive to do so. What do we need to do to change their thinking? Oh, votes. I forgot about that - again. I guess we'll just have to shoulder an ever increasing burden until we can no longer support it.

Trickle-Up Poverty

"We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America."

 

[michal1980]

The cost of mass deportations is huge at $135 Billion dollars.

Obama Official Admitted It’s Cheaper to Deport Illegals Than to Let Them Stay

The annual cost of keeping them here is $113 Billion. Wait, that's almost as much as the cost of deporting them? Why are we allowing them to stay?

http://www.fairus.org/publications/the-fiscal-burden-of-illegal-immigration-on-u-s-taxpayers
It's a no-brainer. Deportation is the only avenue that makes sense. Unfortunately, the majority of that burden is at the state and local level, so the people that have the power to change policy have no incentive to do so. What do we need to do to change their thinking? Oh, votes. I forgot about that - again. I guess we'll just have to shoulder an ever increasing burden until we can no longer support it.

Trickle-Up Poverty "We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America."

but but illegals are the hardest working people in America.

 

[highland145]

Trickle-Up Poverty

but but illegals are the hardest working people in America.

Maybe at one time but they're quickly learning the ropes.

 

[Jaepheth]

We could just annex all of Central and South America.

Boom! No more illegal immigrants of Latin American origins.

 

[Sonikku]

What we need to do is build The Great Wall of America. It could stretch from California to Florida (Actually it could wall off Florida too from the rest of the continental America as an alternate possibility) and could keep the immigrants out and could even serve as a tourist attraction. Might be costly to build though so we'd probably need to invite the immigrants in to build the damn thing first. :hmm:

 

[Thebobo]

CHINESE FIRM TO BUILD FRIENDSHIP WALL BETWEEN MEXICO AND US

http://www.berkshirepublishing.com/...-build-friendship-wall-between-mexico-and-us/

 

[Jaskalas]

The cost of mass deportations is huge at $135 Billion dollars.

Obama Official Admitted It’s Cheaper to Deport Illegals Than to Let Them Stay

The annual cost of keeping them here is $113 Billion. Wait, that's almost as much as the cost of deporting them? Why are we allowing them to stay?

In the use of force, did you factor the ensuing violence into the cost?

Most of them have US citizens for children. Does your plan ignore most of the illegals and their families? If you don't strip the illegal population of their anchor baby citizenship, then what's the point?

Moreover, there's a significant portion of the American voter who wants the illegals. Under no circumstance will our elected officials carry out deportations. The paltry few done today is just a PR move to shut you up. Fact is 99% of them are permanent residents. Always have been, and they always will be.

You would have to destroy this nation to change that.

 

[DesiPower]

Think of it as Hillary Clinton's campaign donation.

 

[smackababy]

You know, if we converted the income tax to a sales tax, nobody would be able to avoid it. Illegals would be much less of a tax burden and rich people would be paying "their share".

 

[highland145]

You would have to destroy this nation to change that.

Legalizing millions of low wage, EITC benefit receivers, service users is a step in that direction.

 

[K1052]

Anyone who thinks that is the entire fiscal/economic picture is probably beyond any sort of reason.

Not to mention the host of social issues that will be created in the wake of such an effort.

 

[DesiPower]

In the use of force, did you factor the ensuing violence into the cost?

Most of them have US citizens for children. Does your plan ignore most of the illegals and their families? If you don't strip the illegal population of their anchor baby citizenship, then what's the point?

Moreover, there's a significant portion of the American voter who wants the illegals. Under no circumstance will our elected officials carry out deportations. The paltry few done today is just a PR move to shut you up. Fact is 99% of them are permanent residents. Always have been, and they always will be.

You would have to destroy this nation to change that.

But they were not receive any federal assistance like Food stamp or medicare and all that. And now they will, that does not make any difference?

 

[TreVader]

How much do you think the US citizenry saves by overworking and underpaying a huge, easily available labor force?


I wonder where you find stuff to complain about Obama and I guess the new thing is to complain that there are still brown people nearby. How much do you think Mexico spends on cleaning up the gigantic drug war we create with our draconian laws? Maybe we should subtract that from this $100B and see who comes out on top?

 

[K1052]

In the use of force, did you factor the ensuing violence into the cost?

Most of them have US citizens for children. Does your plan ignore most of the illegals and their families? If you don't strip the illegal population of their anchor baby citizenship, then what's the point?

Moreover, there's a significant portion of the American voter who wants the illegals. Under no circumstance will our elected officials carry out deportations. The paltry few done today is just a PR move to shut you up. Fact is 99% of them are permanent residents. Always have been, and they always will be.

You would have to destroy this nation to change that.

There is also the small issue that their home nations may well decline to repatriate vast numbers of people, particularly the younger ones who may not have native citizenship if they were born in the US.

What does the US do then? Use military force?

 

[smackababy]

There is also the small issue that their home nations may well decline to repatriate vast numbers of people, particularly the younger ones who may not have native citizenship if they were born in the US.

What does the US do then? Use military force?

If someone is born in the US, even to illegal parents, they are US citizens. Sure, we could deport their parents and hope they take the kid, but we would be obligated to give care for him in the event the parents can't or won't take them back to their native country.

This idea that we "just deport all of them!" gets muddled when children come into play.

 

[TreVader]

There is also the small issue that their home nations may well decline to repatriate vast numbers of people, particularly the younger ones who may not have native citizenship if they were born in the US.

What does the US do then? Use military force?

First we will deport racist idiots like you who don't apparently understand what citizenship is!



Sound good?

 

[fskimospy]

But they were not receive any federal assistance like Food stamp or medicare and all that. And now they will, that does not make any difference?

They will? Who told you that?

 

[fskimospy]

If someone is born in the US, even to illegal parents, they are US citizens. Sure, we could deport their parents and hope they take the kid, but we would be obligated to give care for him in the event the parents can't or won't take them back to their native country.

This idea that we "just deport all of them!" gets muddled when children come into play.

The deportation argument is an emotional one, not a rational one. Muddy doesn't factor in.

 

[Attic]

Can't deport em because the people here don't have the will to send back women and children (this is a good thing).


So we get to have some moral high fiving for those inclined and we also get to sack wages lower with the influx of cheap labor, which satisfies corporate needs and the continuing exploitation of the workforce by the corporations who run DC.

It doesn't happen by chance that the wealth divide is so strikingly growing larger since 2008-2009, there has to be things put in motion to shift more and more wealth to the top, liberals should know better, but Obama has been paramount in ushering in the highest wealth inequality since the great depression under the noses of a liberal voting block. Not that Obama has done the shift himself, but he has done a good job of diverting focus and BS'ing his block so that nothing is really done about the wealth divide. This shit would not stand under a carbon copy of Obama who had an (R) next to his name. Ah behold the power of labels and the 2 party system on a nation only wanting to be sold on and exposed to narratives and whom treat the truth like a piercing cold wind.

Good job, open border is key to this as well as allowing for more debt serfs to be milked their entire lives. Everybody who has worked with a first gen immigrant (and many 2nd genners illegal or not) can not deny how hard these folks work, and how shitty they get paid. This is great if you are the one doing the paying. Government debt and debt stapled to consumers becomes great for those at the top if you pour in millions of new suckers and fill their ears with lies like "equality" and "justice for all", you only have to sell out the middle class a bit more each day to continuing achieving the largest wealth divide in the history of the country. But hey, 5% GDP growth rate from the goal seeking drones employed at government statistical farms,... "oh looks a squirrel!".


Solution, Raise minimum wage. Fair wages, sorry if this sounds like nails on chalk board to conservatives, I know it does, but that's a major issue driving the country down a shit creek of centralized control (make em dependent). Obama didn't push nearly as hard on this as you'd think he would if the rest of his shtick square'd up.

 

[K1052]

If someone is born in the US, even to illegal parents, they are US citizens. Sure, we could deport their parents and hope they take the kid, but we would be obligated to give care for him in the event the parents can't or won't take them back to their native country.

This idea that we "just deport all of them!" gets muddled when children come into play.

Certain people around here have put forth the idea that the 14th Amendment should be changed to enable the US government to retroactively strip those children of their US citizenship in order to forcibly deport them as well.

 

[smackababy]

Certain people around here are really stupid.

FTFY

 

[lsd]

Why is there always talk about the illegals rather than those who employ them?
Would it not make sense to jail and/or heavily fine the employers? Kill the demand and the supply will go away.
But then again all these politicians would be losing campaign contributors.

 

[smackababy]

Why is there always talk about the illegals rather than those who employ them?
Would it not make sense to jail and/or heavily fine the employers? Kill the demand and the supply will go away.
But then again all these politicians would be losing campaign contributors.

Because, the demand isn't simply for work. Being poor and homeless in America is still much better off than being poor in Mexico.

And, IIRC, we do fine employers of illegal workers. Should we focus billions on inspecting all job facilities for green cards now?

 

[Jaskalas]

But they were not receive any federal assistance like Food stamp or medicare and all that. And now they will, that does not make any difference?

I'm not entirely following the question.

Do they not already receive benefits today, as part of the status quo?
Would you like to see that changed?

Let's review the situation. Permanent residents... as in these people aren't leaving. Combine that with poverty and poor work conditions. You think we can or should deny them the same assistance we provide everyone else living here?

To do this to permanent residents would create an impoverished underclass. With fewer rights, privileges, and opportunities than the rest of us. Such living conditions breed violence and gang warfare. It is extremely unwise to promote these conditions anywhere in the world, let alone within our borders.

I for one, do not want to live with the consequences of second class... Americans.

 

[lsd]

Because, the demand isn't simply for work. Being poor and homeless in America is still much better off than being poor in Mexico.

And, IIRC, we do fine employers of illegal workers. Should we focus billions on inspecting all job facilities for green cards now?

Poor and homeless illegals? Funny most of the homeless I see are crazy whites and blacks.
Having a stronger employment verification would be FAR better than deportation only to have them return multiple times.