Originally posted by: Fern
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: Bird222
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
So...back to the topic: Why is the NC GOP doing this before the gubernatorial primaries, when there are still two Democrats in the race and the commercial will be long out of their minds when NC holds its general election for governor in the fall?
You know why.
I really don't.
If they have limited resources and they want to get a Republican governor elected, they'd wait until the fall.
Assuming they were gonna run it now, the only reason I can think is to encourage Dem voters to go for Hillary.
Maybe they wanna see the Dem primary contest extended, maybe even a convention fight?
But that seems a bit farfetched to me.
Fern
Well did you thank him, or were you just "about to" ?Originally posted by: Moonbeam
a: first of all what did you mean by "purple" ?
M: Jhhnn said:
"Remarkable twist of fate in White America denouncing any black man as racist, and an absolutely unremarkable acceptance of it from the usual rightwing dupes, whose real interests are more aligned with blacks than with their white economic overlords. It's the same divide and conquer method used by the southern financial elite since the civil war- playing working class whites off against blacks. It's always worked, of course, even though those at the top just see us all as slightly different shades of n!@@er... and treat us accordingly."
That's really the basis for the Rev Wright's remarks- that we're doomed to God's damnation for our acceptance of it, even moreso for disseminating it, even in a backhanded sort of way..."
Repubs apparently want Dems to run Hillary in the worst way, this smug attack being just one more example..."
and lupi responded with:
"You an absolute idiot if you think the color of skin, place of birth, or anything else makes you immune of or prone to racism."
Aside from the fact that this is wrong, as another poster pointed out, it has nothing whatsoever to do with what Jhhnn said. It is as related to Jhhnn's comment as it is related to purple.
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a: And it is not a fault of either of us .. we are cooperating right now in apparent obfuscation.
M: I don't know what this means either.
a: You take a lot of words and an analogy - at least - to say with nearly the maximum amount of words ,what you say over-and-over and self-hate is the beat to your message.
M: I'm supposed to worry or care?
a: For example .. you were "about" to thank Jhhnn?
- for doing what you said you couldn't do, yet you added to what he said with another "reference to self hate" that implies that you are also a pig creating a sty.
M: Not what I couldn't do. I agree with and know what he said. I am fatigued by the endless need to say the obvious over and over again when the same old crap will still get repeated. I have the energy, however, to tell jhhnn, who has good insight in my opinion, why what he said works out as it does. Showing how everything in the world comes back to self hate is what I do. I see it as key to human survival. We either wake up or go extinct, as I see it. Unconscious self hate is leading us to extinction. It's the E=MC2 of the future, the obvious truth nobody wants to believe.
[/quote]a: Actually pigs are clean by nature and you must not confuse the domesticated and unnaturally kept varieties of the "pigs" in your example - with pigs.
M: Must not? The ones I refer to are very unnatural in my opinion. I don't mind relying on stereotype to make a point.
Originally posted by: Dari
get back to me when you think it's OK to have a relationship with someone who is a fanatic for political expediency but it isn't OK to have a relationship with someone you've known whose remarks are being taken out of context. If they aren't being taken out of context (as you may respond), let me ask you if you've listened to the entire tapes? My guess is you haven't so you aren't in any position to pass judgement, lest you prefer to be accused of taking things out of context.
Originally posted by: lupi
Apoppy, I'm also interested in hearing the rest of that new Wright interview. From the little snippet shown it's almost like he's sailing BHO up the river out of spite.
Q:what did you think of Barrack's speach on race in philedelphia
A: Barrack's a politician and I'm a preacher. He had to answer as a politician.
Some serious WTF brewing there to me.
Originally posted by: lupi
Yeah, I don't know where in the USoKKA we could ever find those type of statements. And definitely don't ask the Hillary campaign about them; after all since she's not been called ***** she can't lead the black people and obviously would not be able to provide an answer.
Maybe you should ask the jews...oh wait.
Originally posted by: Bird222
Originally posted by: lupi
Yeah, I don't know where in the USoKKA we could ever find those type of statements. And definitely don't ask the Hillary campaign about them; after all since she's not been called ***** she can't lead the black people and obviously would not be able to provide an answer.
Maybe you should ask the jews...oh wait.
I can't seem to find video of the sermon with the US of KKKA comment, so I won't comment on how anti-white it is. I can't find the complete sermon about Hillary either, but the part I did find basically says 'Hillary doesn't know what it is like to be black' I am not sure how that is anti-white.
Originally posted by: loki8481
for what it's worth, McCain denounced the ad.
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: loki8481
for what it's worth, McCain denounced the ad.
he would be stupid not to
it is premature to attack now .. Obama is doing an excellent job of castrating himself and Hillary is just giving him a little "taste" of the Republican Fall campaign
Obama needs to drop out as Presidential candidate and take the VP with Hillary
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
That you actually believe this is quite disturbing...sure, there are some Republicans who cast their vote based on what Evangelical leaders or right wing talk radio personalities say...just like some Democrats vote based on which candidate or issues their unions/interest groups support.The party doesn't actively encourage democratic participation like the Dems do, and the rank-and-file Pubs pretty much vote how they're told to vote. The talking heads on hate radio will squawk a bit about how the party candidate isn't as conservative as they might have hoped for, then cry out "OMG LIB-ER-ALS!" right before the general, and they'll all run down to the polls and pull the (R) handle out of fear.
To say one party promotes democratic participation, and the other consists of robotic drones, is laughable at best. Such attitudes explain why there is such a partisan divide in America right now.
The McCain of 2000 posed quite a contrast to GWB, and there is no doubt that McCain has a problem with the fact that he closed ranks with the NeoCons in recent years.On the issues, McCain can't distance himself from the most unpopular president of the modern era, GWB, because to sum up McCain's policy in one word, it's McSame.
That being said, I think McCain can make a stand on this issue in that some of GWB's policies had promising potential...it was GWB's incompetent leadership that doomed them to failure.
McCain can salvage core conservative principles under the guidance of a competent leader...I fully expect McCain to project himself not as another GWB, but as a true Reagan conservative.
I did find that response by Vic interesting. He has turned the rhetoric up big time over the past couple of months. Must be election season
Democratic drones consist of union shops, blacks, gays, and feminists. When you grab 90% of the black vote 100% of the time. Those people arent thinking. They are simply pulling the lever. And while vic will talk about talk radio. Has he ever heard the radio commericals the DNC puts out in the south to scare blacks into voting democrat? I almost thought they were a parody from SNL. If I was black, I'd be offended.
Originally posted by: daveymark
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: loki8481
for what it's worth, McCain denounced the ad.
he would be stupid not to
it is premature to attack now .. Obama is doing an excellent job of castrating himself and Hillary is just giving him a little "taste" of the Republican Fall campaign
Obama needs to drop out as Presidential candidate and take the VP with Hillary
at this point obama has too much baggage to be considered VP. Hillary would do well to pick someone that nobody has heard of, or someone who has already gone through the motions of being put under a microscope and came out smelling better than obama
Originally posted by: BoberFett
Is apoppin actually stupid or does he just try to annoy people?
Originally posted by: sirjonk
I saw some bits of the Wright interview the other day. He calls Barack a "politician" for distancing himself from Wright, implying Barack felt compelled to say it but that he didn't really mean it. I don't think he's doing Obama any favors here.
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: sirjonk
I saw some bits of the Wright interview the other day. He calls Barack a "politician" for distancing himself from Wright, implying Barack felt compelled to say it but that he didn't really mean it. I don't think he's doing Obama any favors here.
Probably emotion, from what I know of his politics. The same people who are attacking Obama for his 9/11 comments now did nothing when Falwell and Robertson made similar comments.
Originally posted by: sirjonk
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: sirjonk
I saw some bits of the Wright interview the other day. He calls Barack a "politician" for distancing himself from Wright, implying Barack felt compelled to say it but that he didn't really mean it. I don't think he's doing Obama any favors here.
Probably emotion, from what I know of his politics. The same people who are attacking Obama for his 9/11 comments now did nothing when Falwell and Robertson made similar comments.
Wright's emotion? The interview shows a calmer, gentler Wright. There's really nothing he can say that will help Obama so it's best for Obama if Wright just went away. Obama's whole message is that he is NOT a regular politician so to have his spiritual advisor of 20 years and the center of a media firestorm proclaim Obama is "just giving political answers" is b.a.d.
Originally posted by: lupi
Apoppy, I'm also interested in hearing the rest of that new Wright interview. From the little snippet shown it's almost like he's sailing BHO up the river out of spite.
Q:what did you think of Barrack's speach on race in philedelphia
A: Barrack's a politician and I'm a preacher. He had to answer as a politician.
Some serious WTF brewing there to me.
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: sirjonk
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: sirjonk
I saw some bits of the Wright interview the other day. He calls Barack a "politician" for distancing himself from Wright, implying Barack felt compelled to say it but that he didn't really mean it. I don't think he's doing Obama any favors here.
Probably emotion, from what I know of his politics. The same people who are attacking Obama for his 9/11 comments now did nothing when Falwell and Robertson made similar comments.
Wright's emotion? The interview shows a calmer, gentler Wright. There's really nothing he can say that will help Obama so it's best for Obama if Wright just went away. Obama's whole message is that he is NOT a regular politician so to have his spiritual advisor of 20 years and the center of a media firestorm proclaim Obama is "just giving political answers" is b.a.d.
I understand what you're saying, but you don't see McCain feeling the need to distance himself from Pat Robertson, do you?
Originally posted by: BoberFett
Is apoppin actually stupid or does he just try to annoy people?
Originally posted by: daveymark
Originally posted by: Dari
get back to me when you think it's OK to have a relationship with someone who is a fanatic for political expediency but it isn't OK to have a relationship with someone you've known whose remarks are being taken out of context. If they aren't being taken out of context (as you may respond), let me ask you if you've listened to the entire tapes? My guess is you haven't so you aren't in any position to pass judgement, lest you prefer to be accused of taking things out of context.
Obama needs to be asked those questions, he's the one who kicked wright off his campaign. if the words were simply taken out of context, why did Obama condemn what he said?
Originally posted by: lupi
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: Bird222
Originally posted by: Corbett
Craig, talk all you want, we both know you have much more time on your hands to post pages of babble. However, you still arent smart enough to see the difference between believing that the Bible clearly states that homosexuality is a sin and corrupts morality, and being a bigot.
So I guess all Christians who believe homosexuality is a sin as bigots as well?
That is nowhere close to the majorly anti-American, anti-White statements that Wright has said over and over again.
One more thing, I appologize for saying Wright said 9/11 was an inside job. Its so hard to keep what you crazy liberals say filed under the right person. What Wright said was that we deserved 9/11, more or less.
While you read this post, please feel free to follow up in THIS THREAD as well.
Please post link to Wright "anti-white" statements.
Pssst...I've been asking them for proof of Rev. Wright racism and no one ever responds. They just say "it's obvious."
Yeah, I don't know where in the USoKKA we could ever find those type of statements. And definitely don't ask the Hillary campaign about them; after all since she's not been called ***** she can't lead the black people and obviously would not be able to provide an answer.
Maybe you should ask the jews...oh wait.