Well maybe the Common Courtesy statement defines it, "The Pals have been at fault also - are they willing to negotiate or should they have it all their way?"
That is just the point, the Israelis have been very much at fault also. But when it comes to the Pals having it all their own way, Israel is a lying sack of shit on that one, because in the 62 years history, the pals started out owning the bulk of Israel and now they own nothing. Yet Israel claims they are the victim?????????????????
wahh wahhh wahh, want a wambulance?
Israel was perfectly fine with what it was partitioned in 1947. It was fine with what it had after the independence war. It was fine with having what it had in 67.
and it is fine with what it has today.
You keep saying israel doesnt have a right to land taken after 67, but why is it no one says it should revert back to 48? Because the arab nations know its their own damn fault they lost the land. Just as today they are at fault.
The Palestinians are the problem with peace. They do not elect a proper group to effectively seal a peace agreement.
Abbas is ready to resign if these peace talks fail (his words not mine). How can you instill trust in a leader ready to quit?
What is wrong with the palestinians is that their religion gets in the way of being a human.
I do not mean this is a totally negative way, but what is true is that the islamic religion teaches to never compromise.
a rough translation, if I recall, from the koran says : "never embrace your enemy."
Compromising is part of human nature. The religion is telling them not to.
the palestinians have been trying since 1948 to keep their stubborn attitude which has gotten them nowhere in all of these years.
If they arent willing to compromise with Israel's offers, why should Israel? Because the arab neighbors say so? At the end of the day, even if the US tells Israel to sacrifice certain things, such as security, in a two state solution, Israel will not listen to the US.
The palestinians are in no position to demand anything. They came, err....... were dragged, into these these talks by world pressure.
World pressure works on the palestinians because they are not self sufficient. Israel can be self sufficient, and has learned over the years starting from the jewish settlements in the early 1900s when they were embargoed and attacks by jealous palestinians.
Secondly, too many countries and companies rely on israel. Israel makes plenty of military systems for various countries around the world. Intel has enough money to lobby the fuck out of the US if AIPAC were to ever fail.
Israel has dealt with worldwide isolations before, it isnt hard for them to deal with them again
That Israeli propaganda line simply does not square with the truth, and now the world is realizing it. Israel does not want peace, they want to keep extending their control of land they cannot own. And Netanyuhu just proved it again by demonstrating Israeli rhetoric is empty. Earth To Israel, you will not get away with Annapolis all over again.
67 borders vs 48, why are people demanding 67? was the "land grab" in 67 legal by your terms then?
But then again, Israel will get away with it again until they get dope slapped by the international community. Its time and events that will tell, not poster puffery on Anand tech. The other point to make is that the USA is perhaps the only nation left that supports Israel, so US positions only isolate both the USA and Israel, and are not predictive of the other 95% of the world.
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