Throckmorton
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You know Republicans are losing the "culture war" because they're now calling it a "diversion"... It wasn't a diversion when they were winning elections with it.
So Clinton was the first president to support blacks is why he was called that? I always thought it was a joke about him having "soul" and playing the sax...and I could have sworn there were one or two other presidents in history that supported blacks, maybe somebody else can remember who they were:hmm:You are right, it is insulting to call him the first gay president...just like it was insulting to call Cinton the first black president. I know they meant it in a way to say they were the first to back them (Obama supporting gays and Clinton supporting blacks) but to say they are what they support is stupid. You have it absolutely correct in saying it is just to sell magazines.
So Clinton was the first president to support blacks is why he was called that? I always thought it was a joke about him having "soul" and playing the sax...and I could have sworn there were one or two other presidents in history that supported blacks, maybe somebody else can remember who they were:hmm:
You are right, it is insulting to call him the first gay president...just like it was insulting to call Cinton the first black president.
I know they meant it in a way to say they were the first to back them (Obama supporting gays and Clinton supporting blacks) but to say they are what they support is stupid. You have it absolutely correct in saying it is just to sell magazines.
Get a grip. It's closer to reality than "Obama is a homo" by, oh, at least a billion times.
Wow! That's a lot of extrapolation from a magazine cover. "A boon to the homophobes". Really? Newsweek is as left a publication as one could ever find but somehow it's all a right wing plot? The vast right wing conspiracy is alive and well I guess. Or, the paranoia runs deep on the left.This is going to be a boon to the homophobes out there. GWB won the election under the unofficial "God, Guns and Gays" platform. One of the three is now firmly in place. Now I see that the Republicans are going to latch onto this and hope that by mobilizing America against "the scourge of the gay male and his attempt to destroy the institution of mairriage" that they'll somehow score a win in November.
A friend of a friend of mine is a pastor and they posted a Facebook message asking how any Christian can vote for Obama when he supports gay marriage.
Funny. I would expect a Christian to want to promote a marriage under God by making it available to as many people as possible. Extending the service to Homosexual persons seems like what Jesus would want. It promotes monogomy, stability and has health benefits (with limited sexual partners.)
I'd like to know what sort of person would really be against this. Surely not a Christian?
I thought Lincoln was the first gay president.
Wasn't there a story about a gay fling he had with a limo driver or something like that?
Wow! That's a lot of extrapolation from a magazine cover. "A boon to the homophobes". Really? Newsweek is as left a publication as one could ever find but somehow it's all a right wing plot? The vast right wing conspiracy is alive and well I guess. Or, the paranoia runs deep on the left.
sorry. I don't know why it perpetually surprises me that, as a gay man, Sullivan is so intent on sucking Obama's dick all the time.
I'm thankful for the things that Obama's done to advance gay rights (and annoyed by the issues he's ignored or punted the ball on), but yeah... I think the term "gay" should only be used when it applies to someone who's sexually attracted to members of the same sex, or as a throwback term for a happy person.Do you find it offensive, or perhaps irritating, that Obama is being labeled as the first gay President? Thanks, just curious what you or anyone else of your orientation thinks of this.
I'm thankful for the things that Obama's done to advance gay rights (and annoyed by the issues he's ignored or punted the ball on), but yeah... I think the term "gay" should only be used when it applies to someone who's sexually attracted to members of the same sex, or as a throwback term for a happy person.
Obama may be happy, but I don't imagine he's the first POTUS ever to experience happiness, and to the best of my knowledge, he hasn't expressed any sexual attraction for members of his same gender.
part of it is just pedantry.Agreed. He should at least have to suck a dick or give a courtesy reach around.
Seriously now, thanks for answering.
You know Republicans are losing the "culture war" because they're now calling it a "diversion"... It wasn't a diversion when they were winning elections with it.
part of it is just pedantry.
it also annoys me when Obama is referred to as black when he is biracial.
This is going to be a boon to the homophobes out there. GWB won the election under the unofficial "God, Guns and Gays" platform. One of the three is now firmly in place. Now I see that the Republicans are going to latch onto this and hope that by mobilizing America against "the scourge of the gay male and his attempt to destroy the institution of mairriage" that they'll somehow score a win in November.
A friend of a friend of mine is a pastor and they posted a Facebook message asking how any Christian can vote for Obama when he supports gay marriage.
Funny. I would expect a Christian to want to promote a marriage under God by making it available to as many people as possible. Extending the service to Homosexual persons seems like what Jesus would want. It promotes monogomy, stability and has health benefits (with limited sexual partners.)
I'd like to know what sort of person would really be against this. Surely not a Christian?
Funny article in Slate. Republicans are now complaining that bringing up gay marriage is divisive. lol.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...s_polls_shift_the_gop_calls_it_divisive_.html
These guys either have no memory or no shame. I guess it could be both.