The fight to convince people of climate change...

[Atreus21]

Anybody seen this?

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/206...xperiment-sun-cosmic-rays-chambor-cloud-c.htm

Another source:

http://ep.probeinternational.org/2011/08/27/lawrence-solomon-science-now-settled/

Edit: Nevermind. Projo created that thread 5 days ago.

 

[Paul98]

Anybody seen this?

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/206...xperiment-sun-cosmic-rays-chambor-cloud-c.htm

Another source:

http://ep.probeinternational.org/2011/08/27/lawrence-solomon-science-now-settled/

Edit: Nevermind. Projo created that thread 5 days ago.

This is why you don't take news articles as science. If you want to see what it actually says go directly to the source. What the research says is totally different from what these articles say.

This happens all the time in tons of different science fields. Just look at all these articles about the "god particle", speed of light, black holes,... What the science says and what the article says are two totally different things.

Edit: This is also why you see all the talk about Gore, he isn't a scientist and shouldn't even be brought into the argument. If you want to discuss global warming discuss the actual science.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

This is why you don't take news articles as science. If you want to see what it actually says go directly to the source. What the research says is totally different from what these articles say.

This happens all the time in tons of different science fields. Just look at all these articles about the "god particle", speed of light, black holes,... What the science says and what the article says are two totally different things.

Edit: This is also why you see all the talk about Gore, he isn't a scientist and shouldn't even be brought into the argument. If you want to discuss global warming discuss the actual science.

Agree...the articles were obviously written by people who don't understand the science and have jumped to hasty conclusions.

However, it is interesting to note the reason the CLOUD Project was essentially "delayed" 10 years. In 1998 Kirkby stated that the sun and cosmic rays "will probably be able to account for somewhere between a half and the whole of the increase in the Earth's temperature that we have seen in the last century." Global warming, he theorized, may be part of a natural cycle in the Earth's temperature.

Funding for the CLOUD Project immediately dried up....go figure.

Anyway, imo Kirkby's findings are significant and will likely lead to a huge paradigm shift in climate science. Time...and good science...will tell.

 

[First]

http://science.slashdot.org/story/11/08/25/1640224/Michael-Mann-Vindicated-Again-Over-Climategate
http://arstechnica.com/science/news...ehind-controversial-climate-paper-resigns.ars

Yet more conservative anti-MMGW canards get thrown out the window.

 

[homercles337]

When did Freepervile invade ATP&N...i remember why i left this vile place.