"The Fatal Flaw In the 911 Coverup"

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DaveSimmons

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As MacBaine noted in Off-Topic
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And we have a president sitting in a ghetto classroom in Florida, at possibily the most pivotal moment in American history, pretending to read a book that he was holding upside down.
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Just disproved this guy's entire argument. That picture was manipulated. this guy's an idiot. So are you if you take anything he said seriously.
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Since the author is as bad about fact-checking as the people who believe the Kerry-with-Fonda photochops, why even bother to read it?
 
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What utter crap. This wasn't worthy of being posted here in these forums, except perhaps to poop on. Let me give the Cliff's Notes version for anyone who might otherwise be gullible enough to click on the link. Muslim Arabs could not have possibly performed the acts of 9/11, it was a conspiracy of Bush and the Israelis. And the author's rebuttal of criticism of his bullsh!t? I quote: "If you disagree, prove it! The world knows you can't, though the high-tech mass murder by the United States and Israel spreads around the world because of this falsified version of events."
 
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mdcrab

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While following some of the sources from this article I came across a Complete 911 Timeline
which documents the 911 timeline and includes sources with a hyperlinked table of contents on right.

The Rense article is pretty far out and the writer is biased making the article of dubious value. It does appear that some of the terrorists named by the FBI maybe incorrect. Not sure if they have ever revised the list.

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DeeKnow

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The way the author rants and raves naturally discredits him within the first few paragraphs,,, but he does touch upon a few facts that do not stand up to scrutiny. Most people outside the US are convinced that the Bush administration is not beyond outright lying.

Take just one example. Starting from scratch, while the entire administration is still trying to come to grips with what hit us all, while the Prez is still in hiding, within 72 hours of the incident, how the hell did they come up with the 19 names??? That is simply incredible. What is more incredible is that Americans buy this ... and if it is possible to get more unreal, they are then led into a war in Afghanistan and another in Iraq, while no one asks why the marines are not landing in Saudi where all but one of the hijackers came from ??

or take another, admittedly less important (in the larger scheme of things) story... right after the event, we were told there had been suspicious patterns of trade in the stocks of airlines (and other companies that were heavily impacted by the event), and that the SEC was investigating that. so, what happened? that story just died and no one thinks to ask theinconvenient questions...? or are we supposed to believe that whoever shorted hundreds of thousands of airline stocks just had a 'lucky hunch' that the stocks were going to tank??

we should all quit watching Fox news and be asking some questions of our governments

 
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Originally posted by: DeeKnow
The way the author rants and raves naturally discredits him within the first few paragraphs,,, but he does touch upon a few facts that do not stand up to scrutiny. Most people outside the US are convinced that the Bush administration  is not beyond outright lying.

Take just one example. Starting from scratch, while the entire administration is still trying to come to grips with what hit us all, while the Prez is still in hiding, within 72 hours of the incident, how the hell did they come up with the 19 names??? That is simply incredible. What is more incredible is that Americans buy this ... and if it is possible to get more unreal, they are then led into a war in Afghanistan and another in Iraq, while no one asks why the marines are not landing in Saudi where all but one of the hijackers came from ??

or take another, admittedly less important (in the larger scheme of things) story... right after the event, we were told there had been suspicious patterns of trade in the stocks of airlines (and other companies that were heavily impacted by the event), and that the SEC was investigating that. so, what happened? that story just died and no one thinks to ask the inconvenient questions...? or are we supposed to believe that whoever shorted hundreds of thousands of airline stocks just had a 'lucky hunch' that the stocks were going to tank??

we should all quit watching Fox news and be asking some questions of our governments
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First off...the president wasn't in hiding...this was an act of war and the military and secret service were doing their duty keeping him out of Washington and moving around...it was Bush who demanded to go back against his protectors wishes.

Second...the rules for privacy go out the window as soon as those planes hit their targets. The FBI takes that list and compares it to their suspected terrorist list and wala...19 names...who knows there could have been more too...(if you think about it)

Not sure on the airplane stock thing

The only thing I think that covered up was that Flight 93 was actually shot down
 
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DeeKnow

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gopackgo...

when i said the prez was in hiding, i didn't mean as in running away or anything - just that he was not at work as usual. i understand he had to be protected...

more important - just because 19 of the names on the passenger manifest match the names on your suspect list, it doesn't mean they did it! the US govt categorically announced within 72 hours they knew who did it, and it was them 19 folks... come on... either they'd known more earlier than they are willing to admit, or they just made up evidence on the 19 to look like they were in charge (I mean, all 19 were dead, so it wasn't like someone was going to raise their hand and refute their evidence)

 
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In my humble opinion...
the US (or its opponents) have had a long line of conspiracy stories, from knowing of the Pearl Harbor bombing, to the recent WMD claims of Iraq.
Come to think of it, if you (are intelligent enough to) know that the US Administration lied about the whole case of the Iraq war, which has led to the loss of lives of over 700 US soldiers, would it invent a more dramatic event to, in essence, change the entire fundamentals of worldwide policies and international law? I mean, the events of 9/11 will never be forgotten... not trying to belittle the deaths of those who died... but many, many thousands of innocents more have died since then in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Let alone those deaths being forgotten, they are hardly considered important enough to be mentioned.
Oh well, we'll never get to know the truth... more so because people who try to explore the truth are immediately discredited.
 
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