The fastest Celeron that can run on my BX board

[hk10Mbps]

I want to upgrade my Socket 370 CPU.

Which fastest Celeron can run on my BX board?

Is it all Tualatin won't run on BX board without modification? How do I know if a Celeron is NOT Tualatin so I can use it?

Is Celeron 1.10A GHz a Tualatin CPU?

 

[AndyHui]

Is it all Tualatin won't run on BX board without modification

Tualatin processors are not supported by BX motherboards.

How do I know if a Celeron is NOT Tualatin so I can use it

All Celerons 1.2GHz and above are Tualatins.

All Celerons below 1.2GHz, but with an A in the name, are Tualatins.

Is Celeron 1.10A GHz a Tualatin CPU?

Yes

 

[hk10Mbps]

That's a great help! Do U know where to find 1.10Ghz non-Tualatin Celeron in Hong Kong for my board?

 

[oldfart]

Tualatin processors are not supported by BX motherboards.

Not officially, but lots of people are doing it anyway. Check out Upgradeware for compatibility. You can get a Slocket that allows Tualatins in a Slot 1 board for $20. I put a C1.4 in a BH6 board overclocked to 1.57 GHz. Works like a charm.

 

[hk10Mbps]

One more question Andy, should I buy the "Tray" CPU (not boxed)? What's their difference?

 

[hk10Mbps]

Oldfart, I know that. I also have read about your upgrade you post here before. I tell you, I have a Slocket with BH6 also, but I don't want to modify my slocket because I fell it is a bit danger and complicate to do it. I tell you, my BH6 is running 133Mhz bus flawlessly!

 

[ScrapSilicon]

Originally posted by: hk10Mbps
One more question Andy, should I buy the "Tray" CPU (not boxed)? What's their difference?

doesn't matter...

tray=OEM= limited warranty and no HSFboxed=Retail=3yr warranty from Intel+Intel HSF

 

[AndyHui]

I have NO VENDORS in Hong Kong listed as having stock of Coppermine Celerons. Every vendor indicates Tualatin stock only.

You could try and ask Centralfield or Videocom to see if they have any "mei for"....last stock.

The fastest non-Tualatin processor I have listed is an OEM P3 1GHz at Jumbo Computer supplies.

Tray = OEM, warranty is handled by the shop, not by Intel/Distributor. "Sui For"....water goods.

 

[hk10Mbps]

Andy do U work for a computer hardware shop?

 

[Eug]

Originally posted by: oldfart

Tualatin processors are not supported by BX motherboards.

Not officially, but lots of people are doing it anyway. Check out Upgradeware for compatibility. You can get a Slocket that allows Tualatins in a Slot 1 board for $20. I put a C1.4 in a BH6 board overclocked to 1.57 GHz. Works like a charm.

Interesting. $20 is a lot more attractive than the price for those PowerLeap adapters. Anyone try it in an Asus P2B? I know the first PowerLeaps wouldn't work in a P2B. A new revision had to be released before it would work.

 

[oldfart]

Originally posted by: hk10Mbps
Oldfart, I know that. I also have read about your upgrade you post here before. I tell you, I have a Slocket with BH6 also, but I don't want to modify my slocket because I fell it is a bit danger and complicate to do it. I tell you, my BH6 is running 133Mhz bus flawlessly!

You dont have to modify anything. The Slot-T works out of the box.

Interesting. $20 is a lot more attractive than the price for those PowerLeap adapters. Anyone try it in an Asus P2B? I know the first PowerLeaps wouldn't work in a P2B. A new revision had to be released before it would work

The Upgradeware site lists the P2B:

P2B PCB Rev 1.10 or above
P2B-B PCB Rev 1.02 or above
P2B-D PCB Rev 1.06 or above
P2B-DS PCB Rev 1.06 or above
P2B-F PCB Rev 1.0 or above
P2B-L PCB Rev 1.04 or above
P2B-LS PCB Rev 1.04 or above
P2B-S PCB Rev 1.04 or above
P2B-N PCB Rev 1.04 or above
P2B-VM PCB Rev 1.02 or above

 

[0roo0roo]

1.1a retail =~40 dollars. oc to 133mhz bus and get 1.5ghz easy. other chips much less likely to go up to 133mhz. out of 3 1.1a i have all oc.

i did the slocket mod from overclockers.com though. cuz i'm too cheap to buy slocket t

 

[Eug]

The Upgradeware site lists the P2B:

P2B PCB Rev 1.10 or above
P2B-B PCB Rev 1.02 or above
P2B-D PCB Rev 1.06 or above
P2B-DS PCB Rev 1.06 or above
P2B-F PCB Rev 1.0 or above
P2B-L PCB Rev 1.04 or above
P2B-LS PCB Rev 1.04 or above
P2B-S PCB Rev 1.04 or above
P2B-N PCB Rev 1.04 or above
P2B-VM PCB Rev 1.02 or above

Excellent! I have the plain P2B rev. 1.10. I suspect the 1.10 is needed for voltage reasons. The older ones don't go below 1.8 V I don't think.

And there is a place a few hours away that sells the upgradeware slocket. How is the reliability of the 1.10A overclocking to 133 MHz bus? My guess is very good, but I also have the option of simply getting the 1.4 GHz Tualatin Celery. I'd consider the PIII but it's $$$$. 4X the price of the 1.1 GHz Celeron.

This Asus P2B rules.

Celeron 366 MHz ---> 412 MHz
Celeron 533A ---> 800 MHz (what I'm running now)
Celeron 1.1 GHz -?-> 1.47 GHz

Edit: I just saw Oroo's post. Excellent. Almost a lock for a 1.33X overclock. Yummy! Now, what kinda voltages are we talking here?

EDIT AGAIN:

What about the fan? Is the retail stock OK? I have some Arctic Silver left over, and I also have an Alpha PEP66 although I don't know if it would even fit.

 

[hk10Mbps]

Oldfart, I want to break your record, I might try to buy a 1.2G Celeron running at 133Mhz bus which is 1600Mhz clock (133*12). It is just about luck, see if my CPU will run that fast.

 

[oldfart]

That is no record. It isn't even pushed at all. The early BH6 does not have a 1/4 PCI divider available, and limited FSB options. 133 FSB is not possible. That is why I used a C1.4 instead of a C1.1 or 1.2. It overclocked to 112 FSB with an undervolt of 1.35 Vcore (1.5 is default).

 

[newbiepcuser]

Originally posted by: AndyHui
I have NO VENDORS in Hong Kong listed as having stock of Coppermine Celerons. Every vendor indicates Tualatin stock only.

You could try and ask Centralfield or Videocom to see if they have any "mei for"....last stock.

The fastest non-Tualatin processor I have listed is an OEM P3 1GHz at Jumbo Computer supplies.

Tray = OEM, warranty is handled by the shop, not by Intel/Distributor. "Sui For"....water goods.

Ai yo, I guess Hong Kong isn't so great now huh Andy?


Andy, when are you going to change your avatar to the Asian guy that looks like you


Hk10Mbps...have you look at E-bay for CPU or For Sale Forum, I saw a bunch of Celerons that would be compatible, some seller might actually ship to Hong Kong. Also what is your current system right now?

 

[bacillus]

I also have an Alpha PEP66 although I don't know if it would even fit.

it'll work as that's what I'm using with my slot-t/celeron combo!

 

[Eug]

Cool. Now what to get?

My choices (local prices):

1.0A GHz US$42
1.1A GHz US$46
1.2A GHz US$50
1.4A GHz US$62

It seems like the best overclocker is the 1.1A according to www.overclockers.com. Just about everyone can hit 133 MHz FSB. This is not true for the 1.2A. Strangely enough, some with the 1.0A don't get too high either. (I guess these were early ones?)

So it looks like the 1.1A might be the ticket. However, I'm tempted to just buy the 1.4A and run it at 100 MHz FSB so that my Radeon LE isn't AGP bus speed doesn't have to go to 89 MHz. My memory is PC133 CAS3 I believe so that's not a problem. My mobo has a 1/4 PCI divider. I WON'T run anything besides 33 MHz by the way. Too many drive issues.

It seems I'll have to do mail order for the slocket though. US$21 plus shipping.

bacillus, glad to hear it! Thx.

 

[bacillus]

highest I could get my 1.4GHz was 124fsb but it wasn't stable whereas 120fsb was!

 

[Eug]

Originally posted by: bacillus
highest I could get my 1.4GHz was 124fsb but it wasn't stable whereas 120fsb was!

I'm thinking running:

1.0A @ 1.33 GHz (with overclocked AGP)
1.1A @ 1.47 GHz (with overclocked AGP)
1.4A @ stock speed

 

[oldfart]

1.4A @ 112 FSB. 1.57 GHz is still quite safe with a 1/3 multiplier. PCI/AGP is 37.3/74.6. Not enough to cause any problem. The 1.1A @ 133 FSB is nice with the in spec PCI, but way out of spec AGP @ 89 MHz.

 

[Eug]

Originally posted by: oldfart
1.4A @ 112 FSB. 1.57 GHz is still quite safe with a 1/3 multiplier. PCI/AGP is 37.3/74.6. Not enough to cause any problem. The 1.1A @ 133 FSB is nice with the in spec PCI, but way out of spec AGP @ 89 MHz.

I got a Maxtor 5400 rpm 45 GB drive that killed itself permanently at 38.3 MHz within an hour. Couldn't even format it after that. Also, my friend's Maxtor drive wasn't reliable at 37.5 MHz. So 37.3 is a little too close for comfort for me. 35 is about as high as I'll go these days.

 

[bacillus]

Originally posted by: Eug

Originally posted by: bacillus
highest I could get my 1.4GHz was 124fsb but it wasn't stable whereas 120fsb was!

I'm thinking running:

1.0A @ 1.33 GHz (with overclocked AGP)
1.1A @ 1.47 GHz (with overclocked AGP)
1.4A @ stock speed

your version of p2b has a 1/4 divider at both 124 & 133fsb

 

[Eug]

Originally posted by: bacillus
your version of p2b has a 1/4 divider at both 124 & 133fsb

Actually I forgot about that. Nonetheless, I probably still wouldn't run it. My old 10 GB Quantum was flaky underclocked to 31 MHz (or was that 30?). Strangely enough, it ran fine at 36.7 MHz though.

 

[oldfart]

I've had better luck I guess. I've run countless PC's with the PCI bus in the 37 - 40 MHz range without an issue. In fact, both of the kids PCs are running 37.5 PCI. One has a 15 Gig WD, one a 20 Gig Maxtor, bith 7200 RPM models. I run a P4 rig with PCI/AGP lock, so its no longer an issue. For you, the 1.1 @ 133 FSB sounds like the way to go.